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zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 11 2011 20:36 GMT
#3261
Ganzi has some cheddar ready for MVP.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 20:39:16
October 11 2011 20:38 GMT
#3262
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.
The Notorious Winkles
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 11 2011 20:46 GMT
#3263
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.


And you have to consider the maps that GOM gave Nestea, basically telling Nestea "Hey, you better win this now."
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
October 11 2011 20:46 GMT
#3264
So if Mvp wins this GSL, is he the first SC2 bonjwa?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 11 2011 20:48 GMT
#3265
On October 12 2011 05:46 Leifish wrote:
So if Mvp wins this GSL, is he the first SC2 bonjwa?

no lol
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
October 11 2011 20:48 GMT
#3266
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.

4-0 really looks like mvp got nesteas number… but watching these games you really can see that its anyones game. They are awsomely even matched! (and i did root for mvp, so dont go for the "nestea fanboy" crap)
Fnatic - TSM - EG
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
October 11 2011 20:49 GMT
#3267
let's stop with the bonjwa nonsense

a sc2 bonjwa will not happen for another while, at least wait until the end of this year, after mlg championship, blizzcon, and all that to see how things go

young game, prestigious and old title, doesn't go together just yet

give it time, i'd say mvp is the closest so far, but again, sc2 is yooooooooounnggg in comparison to bw
IMMvp #1 :)
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 20:52:19
October 11 2011 20:50 GMT
#3268
On October 12 2011 05:46 Leifish wrote:
So if Mvp wins this GSL, is he the first SC2 bonjwa?

Nah, he's only been back in dominant form for the last couple of months. He'd need to be getting to and/or winning GSL finals consistently for much longer than that before we bestow the b-word upon him. He's definitely the best player in the world currently but that does not by itself a bonjwa make.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 11 2011 20:52 GMT
#3269
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.

Then how you do want him to cast?
Like Nestea has no chance?
"just give the win to MVP, Nestea always looses anyway tasteless"

He needs to make it exciting and while total series may not been impressive, today's games were and show that nestea is constantly improving and maybe he will take the next serie of MVP.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
October 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#3270
On October 12 2011 05:46 Leifish wrote:
So if Mvp wins this GSL, is he the first SC2 bonjwa?

Maybe if he also wins Blizzcon, GSL November, Blizzard Cup and MLG Providence assuming that he will participate.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:00:55
October 11 2011 20:59 GMT
#3271
On October 12 2011 05:49 kineticSYN wrote:
let's stop with the bonjwa nonsense

a sc2 bonjwa will not happen for another while, at least wait until the end of this year, after mlg championship, blizzcon, and all that to see how things go

young game, prestigious and old title, doesn't go together just yet

give it time, i'd say mvp is the closest so far, but again, sc2 is yooooooooounnggg in comparison to bw


It was simply an honest question borne of curiosity. I don't understand the all-encompassing reply as if a bunch of folks were saying he should be bonjwa. It was just me asking the question of simply whether or not he would be one if he won this GSL, with no implications or intent to express that he already was one.

Although I'm pretty new to the eSports scene (only with SC2), I think I now understand the inherent community-driven prestige behind the term.
ydeer93
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:03:13
October 11 2011 21:02 GMT
#3272
On October 12 2011 05:46 Leifish wrote:
So if Mvp wins this GSL, is he the first SC2 bonjwa?


If he wins this GSL , Blizzcon, MLG Providence and also wins blizzard cup , then yes we can call him the first sc2 bonjwa, if not no, and i think people should then chill out shouting it everytime someone comes to close to taking gsl
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
October 11 2011 21:10 GMT
#3273
On October 12 2011 05:52 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.

Then how you do want him to cast?
Like Nestea has no chance?
"just give the win to MVP, Nestea always looses anyway tasteless"

He needs to make it exciting and while total series may not been impressive, today's games were and show that nestea is constantly improving and maybe he will take the next serie of MVP.

I'd prefer it if Artosis casted like he does the GSTL and just casts from an objective standpoint. At least it doesn't consist of "NesTea is the GOD OF ZERG", "NesTea eats nerd brain for breakfast!", "NesTea drinks all the nerd blood after trashing them!", "NesTea is an absolute DESTROYER!", "NesTea makes it look like he's playing against platinum every time!", "NesTea is about to win this match any minute now!", so on and so forth. In just a single night. In EVERY NesTea match. Yes, even the ones he barely won due to lucky baneling mines, like the one against sC and Virus (which Virus should have won 2-0, if it weren't for that unneeded push).

Artosis alone made it sound like Virus was being ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED by NesTea when it was far from it, focused heavily on everything NesTea was doing and ignoring sC's great tactical decisions, made it sound like Happy had no chance in hell against him, and so on.

Now I've learned my lesson, which is to mute every match NesTea is in that Artosis is casting, so I can actually understand what is happening and not get distracted by insane fanboyism.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 11 2011 21:18 GMT
#3274
Could someone please make a video of all of Artosis' fanboyisms for Nestea?

There has never been a bigger fanboy than artosis for Nestea
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 11 2011 21:27 GMT
#3275
On October 12 2011 06:10 KanoCoke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:52 Assirra wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.

Then how you do want him to cast?
Like Nestea has no chance?
"just give the win to MVP, Nestea always looses anyway tasteless"

He needs to make it exciting and while total series may not been impressive, today's games were and show that nestea is constantly improving and maybe he will take the next serie of MVP.

I'd prefer it if Artosis casted like he does the GSTL and just casts from an objective standpoint. At least it doesn't consist of "NesTea is the GOD OF ZERG", "NesTea eats nerd brain for breakfast!", "NesTea drinks all the nerd blood after trashing them!", "NesTea is an absolute DESTROYER!", "NesTea makes it look like he's playing against platinum every time!", "NesTea is about to win this match any minute now!", so on and so forth. In just a single night. In EVERY NesTea match. Yes, even the ones he barely won due to lucky baneling mines, like the one against sC and Virus (which Virus should have won 2-0, if it weren't for that unneeded push).

Artosis alone made it sound like Virus was being ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED by NesTea when it was far from it, focused heavily on everything NesTea was doing and ignoring sC's great tactical decisions, made it sound like Happy had no chance in hell against him, and so on.

Now I've learned my lesson, which is to mute every match NesTea is in that Artosis is casting, so I can actually understand what is happening and not get distracted by insane fanboyism.


It is insane fanboyism, for sure, but you have to admit it's pretty amusing. Plus I son't think artosis is being 100% serious
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
October 11 2011 21:31 GMT
#3276
On October 12 2011 06:27 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 06:10 KanoCoke wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:52 Assirra wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:38 rysecake wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:23 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote:
Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias?

Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head.


3-2 isn't owned my son.


I love how fanboys are using 2 wins to solidify Nestea's skills vs mvp now. How bout 11-3 buddy. The games were very good and very close (cept for game 1, complete mvp landslide). Idk how you guys consider nestea on even footing with mvp when he loses EVERY SERIES they play.

3-2 isn't owned, but 11-3 is. And 4-0 series is too.

Then how you do want him to cast?
Like Nestea has no chance?
"just give the win to MVP, Nestea always looses anyway tasteless"

He needs to make it exciting and while total series may not been impressive, today's games were and show that nestea is constantly improving and maybe he will take the next serie of MVP.

I'd prefer it if Artosis casted like he does the GSTL and just casts from an objective standpoint. At least it doesn't consist of "NesTea is the GOD OF ZERG", "NesTea eats nerd brain for breakfast!", "NesTea drinks all the nerd blood after trashing them!", "NesTea is an absolute DESTROYER!", "NesTea makes it look like he's playing against platinum every time!", "NesTea is about to win this match any minute now!", so on and so forth. In just a single night. In EVERY NesTea match. Yes, even the ones he barely won due to lucky baneling mines, like the one against sC and Virus (which Virus should have won 2-0, if it weren't for that unneeded push).

Artosis alone made it sound like Virus was being ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED by NesTea when it was far from it, focused heavily on everything NesTea was doing and ignoring sC's great tactical decisions, made it sound like Happy had no chance in hell against him, and so on.

Now I've learned my lesson, which is to mute every match NesTea is in that Artosis is casting, so I can actually understand what is happening and not get distracted by insane fanboyism.


It is insane fanboyism, for sure, but you have to admit it's pretty amusing. Plus I son't think artosis is being 100% serious

Lol of course he isn't, he was sooo happy and surprised at the same time when NesTea won the 2nd and the 3rd game. He was probably expecting Mvp to win in a more convincing fashion.
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
October 11 2011 21:35 GMT
#3277
On October 12 2011 05:59 Leifish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:49 kineticSYN wrote:
let's stop with the bonjwa nonsense

a sc2 bonjwa will not happen for another while, at least wait until the end of this year, after mlg championship, blizzcon, and all that to see how things go

young game, prestigious and old title, doesn't go together just yet

give it time, i'd say mvp is the closest so far, but again, sc2 is yooooooooounnggg in comparison to bw


It was simply an honest question borne of curiosity. I don't understand the all-encompassing reply as if a bunch of folks were saying he should be bonjwa. It was just me asking the question of simply whether or not he would be one if he won this GSL, with no implications or intent to express that he already was one.

Although I'm pretty new to the eSports scene (only with SC2), I think I now understand the inherent community-driven prestige behind the term.


He has to win 3 in a row, so this and 1 more.
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 23:01:40
October 11 2011 21:36 GMT
#3278
I'm sick and tired of Tastosis. Really... It is the most annoying thing in the world.

I've purchased every single ticket at GomTV and as GSL seasons go by it's getting harder and harder to tolerate Tastosis casting. It's not the game knowledge, not the game insights, not even the enthusiasm they bring to the table. It's simply because HALF of the time they are on live TV they're talking about puppies, pranks, movies, jokes, family stories, bla bla bla bla... This is simply pathetic.
What would you feel if Marv Albert (the legendary NBA play-by-play commentator) did the same? Or Vin Scully from the Dodgers? Or pretty much any other cast from any serious sport?
I really appreciate whenever they actually talk about the game, which at this point must be like 40% of the time they are not talking about a lollipop they tasted in high school.

Another major issue is the fact that it is impossible to actually listen to a cast whenever NesTea is playing. On the last game of the series with MVP, they pure and simply were sad when they figured out NesTea was gonna lose. I'm OK with being a fan of a player over another, but casters have the rule of impartiality. That's not only unprofessional, it's disrespectful towards other players. I mentioned these same issues with IPL3 when PainUser went and said "This is what TheSTC needs to get back into this game" while he was 40 supply ahead over Stephano.

And last but not least, Starcraft 2 is over a year old, and there are certain things casters need to be pretty carefull before spitting them off. For example, for the last 3 GSL casts, Ro16 Code S, Code A finals and Ro8 Code S, in every single one of them you heard them say (Either Tastosis, Wolf and Moletrap) "This was the most ********** I've ever seen!". You've seen probably thousands of games by now, and I get it's pretty tempting to say something that will get the viewers attention, but most of the time they're simply wrong and look dumb. Take Wolf's example, when he said "This is the most one sided GSL finals I've ever seen!". This just called for a facepalm.

Don't get me wrong. I love e-Sports and I feel that correcting some of this issues as soon as possible is the only way "we" could be recognized all over the world and given more chances in national TV broadcasts and stuff.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
October 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#3279
On October 12 2011 06:36 kiy0 wrote:
I'm sick and tired of Tastosis. Really... It is the most annoying thing in the world.

I've purchased every single ticket at GomTV and as GSL seasons it's getting harder and harder to tolerate Tastosis casting. It's not a game knowledge, not the game insights, not even the enthusiasm they bring to the table. It's simply because HALF of the time they are on live TV they're talking about puppies, pranks, movies, jokes, family stories, bla bla bla bla... This is simply pathetic.
What would you feel if Marv Albert (the legendary NBA play-by-play commentator) did the same? Or Vin Scully from the Dodgers? Or pretty much any other cast from any serious sport?
I really appreciate whenever they actually talk about the game, which at this point must be like 40% of the time they are not talking about a lollipop they tasted in high school.

Another major issue is the fact that it is impossible to actually listen to a cast whenever NesTea is playing. On the last game of the series with MVP, they pure and simply were sad when they figured out NesTea was gonna lose. I'm OK with being a fan of a player over another, but casters have the rule of impartiality. That not only unprofessional, it's disrespectful towards other players. I mentioned the same issue with IPL3 when PainUser went and said "This is what TheSTC needs to get back into this game" while he was 40 supply ahead over Stephano.

And last but not least, Starcraft 2 is over a year old, and there are certain things casters need to be pretty carefull before spitting them off. For example, for the last 3 GSL casts, Ro16 Code S, Code A finals and Ro8 Code S, in every single one of them you heard them say (Either Tastosis, Wolf and Moletrap) "This was the most ********** I've ever seen!". You've seen probably thousands of games by now, and I get it's pretty tempting to say something that will get the viewers attention, but most of the time you're simply not true. That Wolf's example when he said "This is the most one sided GSL finals I've ever seen!". This just called for a facepalm.

Don't get me wrong. I love e-Sports and I feel that correcting some of this issues as soon as possible is the only way "we" could be recognized all over the world and given more chances in national TV broadcasts and stuff.


All of your points combined with their lack of passion for the game in the recent months is just another factor that is contributing to the ineviable collapse of E Sports as a whole erasing it from the face of mainstream for many years to come.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
October 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#3280
nestea fanboys vs Mvp fanboys is looking more like Jaedong fanboys vs Flash fanboys. Fanboys will always be fanboys....
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
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