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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
GomTvT lol | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:10 Ravar wrote: Did you really think that either Nestea or MVP would be in the finals as well when they were announced as going to blizzcon. No i didn't expect it... and it is still not certain yet, but i expect MVP will beat Ganzi... | ||
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Cain0
United Kingdom608 Posts
On October 12 2011 01:14 Flonomenalz wrote: Lol people all over Artosis about his Nestea love. Get over it. The Ganzi Supernova games were sub par and sloppy, so of course they would criticize it in comparison to the games beforehand. I think they are just sick of watching TvT all day every day. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On October 12 2011 03:50 KimJongChill wrote: Nestea's worst match-up against MVP's best and it was extremely close  Worst match-up? When was that declared? | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Forget about series, 11-3 overall. Still untouchable | ||
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Mr. Nefarious
United States515 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:31 Razuik wrote: Worst match-up? When was that declared? Considering his ZvZ winrate is over 90%, his ZvP winrate is over 80% and his ZvT winrate is a mere ¬55%, I would say its obvious that ZvT is his worst matchup. | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
I think saying Nestea's ZvT is his worst match-up is one of the few things in SC2 that is backed up by both statistics and global agreement. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
3-2 against the next best Player in the world who is also his teammate... You have to be blind or just in denial to think MVP isnt untouchable. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:56 MayorITC wrote: I think saying Nestea's ZvT is his worst match-up is one of the few things in SC2 that is backed up by both statistics and global agreement. I'm not disagreeing, just playing devils advocate bit honestly global agreement means next to nothing and the stats have many other factors. Remember that there is a disproportionate amount of Terran in code s so of course he's going to lose to them more. Also Korean terrans are simply killing it lately. And lastly his other 2 matchup percent are so insane it makes his TVA look bad in comparison. Again, not arguing just bringing up some points I thought of | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:57 SupLilSon wrote: 3-2 against the next best Player in the world who is also his teammate... You have to be blind or just in denial to think MVP isnt untouchable. lol what? How does losing games to good players mean you're untouchable? Losing games to your teammates or to good players apparently doesn't count? Doesn't this mean Nestea is also untouchable since he's only losing to MVP? | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On October 12 2011 00:47 kineticSYN wrote: lose 20 drones to hellions -> type "gg" Fixed. While I agree that each race has their specifics and hellions are fine the way they are now, you can't be serious. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On October 12 2011 05:07 fraktoasters wrote: lol what? How does losing games to good players mean you're untouchable? Losing games to your teammates or to good players apparently doesn't count? Doesn't this mean Nestea is also untouchable since he's only losing to MVP? I think that's exactly what he's implying. Watching those two play was like watching two true masters of their respective races face off against each other. I just don't see anyone else in the tournament beating them. They look too on form right now. If Nestea had won last night we'd have a Zerg champion. MVP took him down and looks on task to take this whole tournament as well. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On October 11 2011 20:14 Zannadar wrote: Ummm a bit too much Nestea bias? Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On October 12 2011 05:22 forsooth wrote: Far too much. Watching Artosis cast Nestea is painful, especially when he's up against the one player who owns him head to head. 3-2 isn't owned my son. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
I believe NesTea is something like 4-11 overall against MVP. Last season NesTea got 2-0'd by MVP. | ||
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
but 11-3 is and that's obviously what he's talking about no one is gonna deny that the matches just played were insanely close, cuz they were could have swung in the other players favor in every game, except game 1 but yeah, every time mvp and nestea meet, mvp comes out the winner, in usually landslide fashion, so record/stat-wise, he does own nestea head to head and yea, artosis gettin pretty annoying with his constantly growing nestea love it's cool that he feels so passionately about it, but yea, going as far as mentioning nestea at any given moment, ignoring the game at hand and worship nestea during it, etc... pretty bad lol don't get me wrong, i love tastosis, great chemistry, and when on point they are the best casting duo, but artosis lately has just been messing up the vibe with the nestea nestea nestea thing, with tasteless blindly agreeing at every corner seemingly out of obligation | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:14 Dac wrote: No i didn't expect it... and it is still not certain yet, but i expect MVP will beat Ganzi... I'm not counting Ganzi out yet, he did knock MVP out of the Super Tournament. MVP is certainly favored since he's been on fire lately, but I suspect it will be far from a walkover. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 12 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote: I'm not disagreeing, just playing devils advocate bit honestly global agreement means next to nothing and the stats have many other factors. Remember that there is a disproportionate amount of Terran in code s so of course he's going to lose to them more. Also Korean terrans are simply killing it lately. And lastly his other 2 matchup percent are so insane it makes his TVA look bad in comparison. Again, not arguing just bringing up some points I thought of What are you talking about? The whole point of win ratios and percentages is to give an idea of how well someone fares against a certain race without using volume of games. It doesnt matter if theres a ton of Terrans or very little Terrans, someone's win ratio should be the same. You say "there is a disproportionate amount of Terran in code s so of course he's going to lose to them more," but that logic doesnt go against what people say about his ZvT. If ZvT was his best matchup, wouldnt having more Terrans in Code S mean he would win more against them? Your statement backs up the idea that his worst matchup is ZvT since he only loses more to Terran because he is not as good at ZvT as he is at ZvZ or ZvP. | ||
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