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On October 11 2011 04:28 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:26 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 04:21 Deckkie wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot.  lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. In the game against Alive he only made zerglings, it was obvious that he wasnt playing serious. Did the HuK tournaments have any Koreans in them (maybe MC, not sure, but that would prove he can 4gate). When Naniwa won there were no Koreans at all. When we include qualifier, Stephano defeated 10 koreans in total, with Code S players among them. I will agree that it would be very unlickely that Stephano would win Orlando, but you cant just generalize his win the way you do. Thats why i said "i doubt he can pull a naniwa with top koreans there" and okay so now everytime stephano loses we will so "oh he wasnt taking it seriously" got it. Did you even watch the games? After he lost to Alive he played Boxer and crushed him. In the interview afterwards he said that he wasnt stupid and ofcourse wouldnt do the all ling build against a "korean" again. (he didnt say korean but I think we can deduce that out of this comment).
Everybody beatsBoxer nowadays..
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On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that.
Yes huk has won MLG  2010 MLG Raleigh and got a 3 place inn 2010 MLG D.C. But hey it is fun to forget
You are forgetting that the system that IPL 3 uses is very different than MLG! There where qualifers first inn the first qualifer he was inn (Qualifier 2) he first went
Stephano 2-0 Anypro( former code S)
Stephano 2-1 Axslav
Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Code S
Stephano 1-2 Alive (code S)
the secound qualifer he was inn(Qualifier 3) he won the hole thing against people like
Stephano 2-1 Socke
Stephano 2-1 Revival(Code A)
Stephano 2-0 Puzzle (Code S)
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-1 MMA (Code S)
and then inn the Pool play
Stephano 2-0 Huk (Code S)
Stephano 2-0 Boxer
Stephano 0-2 alive( Code S)
Inn the bracket he had this
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-0 Violet (Code A)
Stephano 2-1 Inori
Stephano 3-1 TheStC
Stephano 4-0 Lucky(code A)
Too say that that was easy that he took down 1 code A and 3 code B is so wrong he took down 2 code A and 1 code S inn the Main event. and took down 3 Code S players and 1 code A inn the qualifiers. say what you want but his way too become champion was not easy!
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On October 11 2011 04:29 SeraKuDA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:25 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 04:24 SeaSwift wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Main_TournamentHe beat Puzzle in the Qualifiers 2-0, MMA 2-1 in the Qualifiers and Lucky 4-0 in the finals. He also beat Inori (beat MC and HuK), Violet, theStC ("practice Gosu"), Revival (beat MC in GSTL), Kiwikaki and Socke. Puzzle won Code A 2 months ago and was in Code S last month (now in Up/Downs). MMA is fucking MMA. Lucky is in the Up/Downs now, having got Ro8 in Code A. Anyone claiming Stephano got anything like an "easy run" in this tournament is kidding themselves. I'm fairly sure MMA is Code S calibre material, but maybe you should correct me on that? I dont count online results, neither should you. Why are you trying to take away from his win?
Im not if you read my original post, i said its very impressive and im not trying to take away from it but i just dont agree with people saying his is top tier code s or that he will tear through MLG orlando to get the code s spot. People have won more impressive tournaments only to dissapoint in MLG's and other tournaments (my example was huk) against top tier koreans and i dont think stephano should be thought of as any different until he proves otherwise.
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On October 11 2011 04:34 Noxblood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. Yes huk has won MLG 2010 MLG Raleigh and got a 3 place inn 2010 MLG D.C. But hey it is fun to forget You are forgetting that the system that IPL 3 uses is very different than MLG! There where qualifers first inn the first qualifer he was inn ( Qualifier 2) he first went Stephano 2-0 Anypro( former code S) Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Code S Stephano 1-2 Alive (code S) the secound qualifer he was inn( Qualifier 3) he won the hole thing against people like Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival(Code A) Stephano 2-0 Puzzle (Code S) Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA (Code S) and then inn the Pool play Stephano 2-0 Huk (Code S) Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 0-2 alive( Code S) Inn the bracket he had this Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet (Code A) Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky(code A) Too say that that was easy that he took down 1 code A and 3 code B is so wrong he took down 2 code A and 1 code S inn the Main event. and took down 3 Code S players and 1 code A inn the qualifiers. say what you want but his way too become champion was not easy!
Sorry i know huk did well at those old MLG's are those at all relevant anymore though? Sorry to make myself clear the only MLG's im talking about are the ones after koreans started participating, i mean come on, before that Incontrol got top 4 even. (top 6 or 4?)
and like i said before, online results although they can be impressive, i dont put them in the same class as Lan results (and neither do most people). I dont care if he was playing somewhere where the internet is supposedly bad as well, i just think that neither player is playing at their top game when there is potentially a half second of lag involved and i also beleive that with terran micro it is the hardest to play with this sort of lag. regardless of who won or what both players are not playing to their full potential with possibly a half second of lag.
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On October 11 2011 04:31 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:27 massivez wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. He beat Huk (a code s player). The one you are raving about. He beat him twice actually, in ipl and Homestory cup 2-0, huk even said on twitter: How do you beat that. Not too mention the other koreans he beat online: Puzzle, MMA, Marinekingprime... But that's obviously not worth mentioning because koreans don't take online stuff serious( online stuff where you can place yourself into an event where you can win 30k dollars). Oh, and if you come with an argument about lag for the koreans, guess what! Stephano qualified for it in Tunisia that has pretty crappy internet in the first place, + it was on NA Server. Yea im not saying huk is at that level anymore at all though clearly why hes losing to code b players / hasnt made the top 6 of a tournament since then. Im just saying that this win isnt as impressive as huks 2 majors months ago and huk still isnt even making it into top spots at MLG. My point was is that people with more impressive wins have performed worse at MLG's so i doubt this one win is going to prove that he is going to tear through MLG orlando.
So you're saying winning a tournament does not necessarily guarantee winning the next big one. I think we can all live with that statement lol. I think you can make that point without knocking down Stephano's achievements, such as saying his wins vs Code S level players shouldn't count since they were online.
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does anyone know if replays are going to be released?
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On October 11 2011 04:35 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:29 SeraKuDA wrote:On October 11 2011 04:25 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 04:24 SeaSwift wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Main_TournamentHe beat Puzzle in the Qualifiers 2-0, MMA 2-1 in the Qualifiers and Lucky 4-0 in the finals. He also beat Inori (beat MC and HuK), Violet, theStC ("practice Gosu"), Revival (beat MC in GSTL), Kiwikaki and Socke. Puzzle won Code A 2 months ago and was in Code S last month (now in Up/Downs). MMA is fucking MMA. Lucky is in the Up/Downs now, having got Ro8 in Code A. Anyone claiming Stephano got anything like an "easy run" in this tournament is kidding themselves. I'm fairly sure MMA is Code S calibre material, but maybe you should correct me on that? I dont count online results, neither should you. Why are you trying to take away from his win? Im not if you read my original post, i said its very impressive and im not trying to take away from it but i just dont agree with people saying his is top tier code s or that he will tear through MLG orlando to get the code s spot. People have won more impressive tournaments only to dissapoint in MLG's and other tournaments (my example was huk) against top tier koreans and i dont think stephano should be thought of as any different until he proves otherwise.
So your point is we do not know how he will do at MLG since it hasn't been played yet? Thanks for sharing and good luck in your fight against silly forum hype and trolling.
edit: meh, beaten to it.
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On October 11 2011 04:36 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:34 Noxblood wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. Yes huk has won MLG 2010 MLG Raleigh and got a 3 place inn 2010 MLG D.C. But hey it is fun to forget You are forgetting that the system that IPL 3 uses is very different than MLG! There where qualifers first inn the first qualifer he was inn ( Qualifier 2) he first went Stephano 2-0 Anypro( former code S) Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Code S Stephano 1-2 Alive (code S) the secound qualifer he was inn( Qualifier 3) he won the hole thing against people like Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival(Code A) Stephano 2-0 Puzzle (Code S) Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA (Code S) and then inn the Pool play Stephano 2-0 Huk (Code S) Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 0-2 alive( Code S) Inn the bracket he had this Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet (Code A) Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky(code A) Too say that that was easy that he took down 1 code A and 3 code B is so wrong he took down 2 code A and 1 code S inn the Main event. and took down 3 Code S players and 1 code A inn the qualifiers. say what you want but his way too become champion was not easy! Sorry i know huk did well at those old MLG's are those at all relevant anymore though? Sorry to make myself clear the only MLG's im talking about are the ones after koreans started participating, i mean come on, before that Incontrol got top 4 even. (top 6 or 4?) and like i said before, online results although they can be impressive, i dont put them in the same class as Lan results (and neither do most people). I dont care if he was playing somewhere where the internet is supposedly bad as well, i just think that neither player is playing at their top game when there is potentially a half second of lag involved and i also beleive that with terran micro it is the hardest to play with this sort of lag. regardless of who won or what both players are not playing to their full potential with possibly a half second of lag.
Normally i would agree 100% with you. But that is when online results and offline results don't stack up! But when they do i fell it is kinda silly to say it.
But it is strange for some reason when a foreigner wins a major tournament there is ALWAYS somebody saying that the tournament wasn't that hard. Or the Koreans there wasn't that good or he was lucky or something like that. People have something inn there head that if a Korean is inn a tournament they will win and most win, no matter what. Most likely because it has been like that for pretty much through the hole sc1 history. But Sc2 and Sc1 is not the same game. And Koreans are not unbeatable. Jinro got to the semi finals twice inn Code s. Huk has been inn Code s now for many months, being top 8 also winning to major tournaments with very good Koreans inn them and now Stephano wins IPL 3 t a week after Idra takes a IEM.
I don't say that the foreign scene is as strong as the Korean scene. But the foreign scene has some players that can take games and series from the best koreans. People like Stephano, Idra, Dimaga, Huk, Ret, Thorzain, Naniwa, Select, kiwikaki.
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Do you happen to know how to view the vods of the player camera or if they exist?
I can't find them (bought ign prime, so if they are only for members, I should be able to watch them).
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Awesome, thanks for that. Just finished watching the finals and must I am pleasantly surprised. Must have been electric live.
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On October 11 2011 06:03 aebriol wrote:Do you happen to know how to view the vods of the player camera or if they exist? I can't find them (bought ign prime, so if they are only for members, I should be able to watch them).
I bet they will come up after a while, when IPL put up there own vods on ign.com/ipl/tv
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Great job by Stephano!
And now MLG Orlando and earn that Code-S spot.
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On October 11 2011 04:21 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:18 Erasme wrote:On October 11 2011 03:11 Bigtony wrote:On October 11 2011 03:04 CurLy[] wrote:
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in somewhere.
As a live attendee to the event, putting the LoL finals on at Sunday night was a terrible idea. Many people could not stay at the casino Sunday night and it just kept getting delayed... The way Rachel tried to basically tell the crowd to not leave or your killing Esports was pretty amusing but of course I left. You can't expect someone who doesn't play LoL to sit in a crowd also disinterested for 2 hours. There were no more than 10-15 people watching the LoL games in the first place so I don't know man...
There is nothing wrong with being ahead of schedule... I had the same experience. I went over to the Bally's area thinking there would be swarms of league of legends fans there...no one. Back in the Circus Maximus it was very dead (although this is when I got to meet Apollo, inControl, and Anna ^_^). Overall I think live attendance for the event was very very low due to the venue. 21+ only was a very bad decision in hindsight. I enjoyed seeing LoL. And I don't even play it. The casters were good. Agreed.
I enjoyed watching the LoL since it was on, but the LoL finals was 2+ hours long. That's just silly to delay the SC2 semifinals (stephano had not even played his semi yet!!) when there are barely any LoL fans at the event. They should have started before any of the Sc2 semifinals. And like the initial point was: going to 11pm just for the hell of it? silly. many people cannot stay the extra night in the casino, and Atlantic City is kind of in the middle of farkin nowhere, even for people who live in New Jersey.
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only one thing to say...
![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17073118/stephano.png)
"This Khaydarin crystal is for my queen..."
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On October 11 2011 04:37 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:31 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 04:27 massivez wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. He beat Huk (a code s player). The one you are raving about. He beat him twice actually, in ipl and Homestory cup 2-0, huk even said on twitter: How do you beat that. Not too mention the other koreans he beat online: Puzzle, MMA, Marinekingprime... But that's obviously not worth mentioning because koreans don't take online stuff serious( online stuff where you can place yourself into an event where you can win 30k dollars). Oh, and if you come with an argument about lag for the koreans, guess what! Stephano qualified for it in Tunisia that has pretty crappy internet in the first place, + it was on NA Server. Yea im not saying huk is at that level anymore at all though clearly why hes losing to code b players / hasnt made the top 6 of a tournament since then. Im just saying that this win isnt as impressive as huks 2 majors months ago and huk still isnt even making it into top spots at MLG. My point was is that people with more impressive wins have performed worse at MLG's so i doubt this one win is going to prove that he is going to tear through MLG orlando. So you're saying winning a tournament does not necessarily guarantee winning the next big one. I think we can all live with that statement lol. I think you can make that point without knocking down Stephano's achievements, such as saying his wins vs Code S level players shouldn't count since they were online.
If we can all live with that, why cant we all live with the fact that online results certainly dont mean as much as much as offline ones. Thats all im really saying, we have seen quite a few examples of players winning in online tournaments and getting beaten in offline ones by the same people, i think a really good example is Thorzain MC, Thorzain beat MC in a very exciting series, they were both in europe so it was legit. Since then though they have played at least 2 other times in lans (possibly more) and mc has done a pretty good job of dismantling thorzain without to much trouble each time. There is the pressure of the audience and more money on the line (usually) that you have to factor in as well.
I know i keep saying that im not trying to take anything away from stephano's win, and then i say things that seem like i am. I really am not trying to take anything away from the IPL win he just had though. It was very impressive and he played really well. Im just not trying to add anything to his win either though like some people are, and those are the people i was addressing. The people that say hes code s material or that he will win the next MLG and get code s etc. Winning 1 tournament does not prove that you are these things, being consistent does and until I see some offline consistentcy fromm stephano ill hold my tongue on saying things like " Hes gonna win the next MLG" "code s champion incoming" "hes gonna tear through code a like a hot knife through butta"
Its those type of statements that make me respond in this manner and there are ALOT of people that are saying it too, look 2 posts above this one.
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On October 11 2011 04:59 Noxblood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:36 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 04:34 Noxblood wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. Yes huk has won MLG 2010 MLG Raleigh and got a 3 place inn 2010 MLG D.C. But hey it is fun to forget You are forgetting that the system that IPL 3 uses is very different than MLG! There where qualifers first inn the first qualifer he was inn ( Qualifier 2) he first went Stephano 2-0 Anypro( former code S) Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Code S Stephano 1-2 Alive (code S) the secound qualifer he was inn( Qualifier 3) he won the hole thing against people like Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival(Code A) Stephano 2-0 Puzzle (Code S) Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA (Code S) and then inn the Pool play Stephano 2-0 Huk (Code S) Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 0-2 alive( Code S) Inn the bracket he had this Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet (Code A) Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky(code A) Too say that that was easy that he took down 1 code A and 3 code B is so wrong he took down 2 code A and 1 code S inn the Main event. and took down 3 Code S players and 1 code A inn the qualifiers. say what you want but his way too become champion was not easy! Sorry i know huk did well at those old MLG's are those at all relevant anymore though? Sorry to make myself clear the only MLG's im talking about are the ones after koreans started participating, i mean come on, before that Incontrol got top 4 even. (top 6 or 4?) and like i said before, online results although they can be impressive, i dont put them in the same class as Lan results (and neither do most people). I dont care if he was playing somewhere where the internet is supposedly bad as well, i just think that neither player is playing at their top game when there is potentially a half second of lag involved and i also beleive that with terran micro it is the hardest to play with this sort of lag. regardless of who won or what both players are not playing to their full potential with possibly a half second of lag. Normally i would agree 100% with you. But that is when online results and offline results don't stack up! But when they do i fell it is kinda silly to say it. But it is strange for some reason when a foreigner wins a major tournament there is ALWAYS somebody saying that the tournament wasn't that hard. Or the Koreans there wasn't that good or he was lucky or something like that. People have something inn there head that if a Korean is inn a tournament they will win and most win, no matter what. Most likely because it has been like that for pretty much through the hole sc1 history. But Sc2 and Sc1 is not the same game. And Koreans are not unbeatable. Jinro got to the semi finals twice inn Code s. Huk has been inn Code s now for many months, being top 8 also winning to major tournaments with very good Koreans inn them and now Stephano wins IPL 3 t a week after Idra takes a IEM. I don't say that the foreign scene is as strong as the Korean scene. But the foreign scene has some players that can take games and series from the best koreans. People like Stephano, Idra, Dimaga, Huk, Ret, Thorzain, Naniwa, Select, kiwikaki.
This tournament definitely had some decent koreans, but its safe to say that these past 2 majors (gaungzhou and IPL) havent exactly been the most stacked in terms of koreans. I would say almost all of the MLG's so far have been more stacked. I really do like that they are giving attention / giving the opportunity to lesser known (but still very talented) korean players. As some of these new up and comers although they may not be as solid overall as some of the greats are really starting to show they have what it takes.
Its not even that IPL wasnt that stacked, it did actually have MMA, Puma (who is good but besides his TVP i think by korean standards hes probably just pretty average) , MC (been slumping recently still very solid though, his group play was amazing), and then Alive as well. None of these guys are really the kings of the castle in korea though 2 are decent code S players , and the rest where code b's and Lucky code a.
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it will be tougher than the ipl since he is in the open bracket with maybe good koreans on his path, everybody agrees that...
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