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Executor1
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On October 11 2011 06:34 JohnMatrix wrote: it will be tougher than the ipl since he is in the open bracket with maybe good koreans on his path, everybody agrees that... yea for sure, not to mention that MLG said that orlando will have more koreans then any other MLG's and they are looking for additional translators. | ||
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villageidiot
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ydeer93
United Kingdom66 Posts
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raidje
Netherlands1 Post
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Noxblood
Norway374 Posts
On October 11 2011 06:28 Executor1 wrote: This tournament definitely had some decent koreans, but its safe to say that these past 2 majors (gaungzhou and IPL) havent exactly been the most stacked in terms of koreans. I would say almost all of the MLG's so far have been more stacked. I really do like that they are giving attention / giving the opportunity to lesser known (but still very talented) korean players. As some of these new up and comers although they may not be as solid overall as some of the greats are really starting to show they have what it takes. Its not even that IPL wasnt that stacked, it did actually have MMA, Puma (who is good but besides his TVP i think by korean standards hes probably just pretty average) , MC (been slumping recently still very solid though, his group play was amazing), and then Alive as well. None of these guys are really the kings of the castle in korea though 2 are decent code S players , and the rest where code b's and Lucky code a. The thing is that IPL was different than MLG. there where less Code S Koreans inn the main event. but there where many Koreans that tried to get there way inn to IPL 3 through qualifiers. So comparing them is really hard. i personally don't think Stephano will win MLG Orlando. But i think it is important for the community and for E-Sports that when a foreigner wins a major tournament people stop making excuses. I think one of the reason why SC1 never kicked off inn a major way inn the west was because our scene was so weak compared to the Korean. This time around the foreigner scene is a lot stronger! and we need too recognize that. And not just trash the foreign players, like so many people do! | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Noxblood
Norway374 Posts
On October 11 2011 06:54 Telcontar wrote: If a foreigner won the GSL after winning MLG he would still make up some reason that the foreigner didn't deserve it!So Slasher is definitely shaving his head right? There's no way he can claim IPL3 was a small tournament. | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
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duct_TAPE
492 Posts
On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote: lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. Don't you think MarineKing and MMA are code S calibre? Not being in pool play, Stephano will have a hard time at MLG, but after seeing the way he plays can you honestly say he dosn't have a chance? I don't think you realise how well he played at IPL, if he plays on the same level at MLG you can't write him off like you did. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44359 Posts
On October 11 2011 04:31 Acrofales wrote: FFS. Stephano rocked the tournament. Who knows whether he's Code S material? Can we just leave it at that and congratulate the guy on an excellent tournament? He played through some (apparently) very tough players and mostly completely destroyed them. GRATS! I completely agree with you (and I was skeptical of him before the tournament), but that's not really the way things are done here on TeamLiquid  We're going to keep arguing and arguing, and hopefully he ends up not going to Korea soon so that when he quits SC2 in a year, this argument of *exactly how good Stephano is* can literally go on forever, complete with hypothetical silliness  | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On October 11 2011 08:53 Grapesludge wrote: Don't you think MarineKing and MMA are code S calibre? Not being in pool play, Stephano will have a hard time at MLG, but after seeing the way he plays can you honestly say he dosn't have a chance? I don't think you realise how well he played at IPL, if he plays on the same level at MLG you can't write him off like you did. As i said earlier im not counting the online results, just because there is alot of factors involved and regardless of if stephano was in a bad location as well that means neither player was playing at their best. Not to mention the only code s player he played at IPL he got 2-0'd by and i would put alive in a lower catergory then mma or MKP. I defintely think stephano has a chance to go far at MLG but, its always the monster koreans that are in the top 4 that are the end bosses. Could he get top 6 , probably. I dunno about winning the whole thing though seems pretty unlikely, id just be impressed if he got out of the open bracket to be honest, considering MLG said that orlando will have the most koreans so far out of any MLG. We all know stephano can be a very good player now, the question is , is he consistent? I know hes consistent online but being consistent at lans and being consistent online are 2 very different things (look at kas) | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Unkown User Request
United States26 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Cheer up, be happy guys. A foreigner won, that's good. A Korean could have won and it would have been equally awesome. Get over your childish argument and be happy that IPL is stepping up its game to provide us with awesome tournament. | ||
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
On October 11 2011 12:05 Otolia wrote: Is this a concert of downers ? Cheer up, be happy guys. A foreigner won, that's good. A Korean could have won and it would have been equally awesome. Get over your childish argument and be happy that IPL is stepping up its game to provide us with awesome tournament. Nobody is down on IPL. I think most people are just annoyed by all the europeans who are pronouncing Stephano the next bonjwa. What a joke. He beat zero Code S players in the actual LAN event. The only Code S player he played (aLive), he got stomped. I dont see why everyone thinks he's all of a sudden a Code S zerg player. This is an insult to players like Nestea to even put Stephano in the same category. No doubt hes good but hes being way overhyped because of this win. Lets see how he does in Orlando. I would bet actual money that Stephano doesnt make top 4 and probably not even top 8. Would be lucky to break top 16 and thats not an insult to him at all. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On October 11 2011 13:07 jyLee wrote: Nobody is down on IPL. I think most people are just annoyed by all the europeans who are pronouncing Stephano the next bonjwa. What a joke. He beat zero Code S players in the actual LAN event. The only Code S player he played (aLive), he got stomped. I dont see why everyone thinks he's all of a sudden a Code S zerg player. This is an insult to players like Nestea to even put Stephano in the same category. No doubt hes good but hes being way overhyped because of this win. Lets see how he does in Orlando. I would bet actual money that Stephano doesnt make top 4 and probably not even top 8. Would be lucky to break top 16 and thats not an insult to him at all. No offense to Nestea and I love his intelligent play, but to be frank Nestea's greatness largely comes from his preparation. If he were to put in a 64 men tourney that takes place in 3 day period where you don't know who your next opponent will be, any code A-level T has a chance to take him out in a Bo3. (He even lost to Gumiho in LAN environment and went on to QQ, and he had plenty of time to prepare for that match) There is a reason why Nestea keeps himself in such a secrecy. I understand him 100% - he's an older gamer and may not have as much time as others for his career. It's smart to make the most out of it while he can. | ||
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
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5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
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