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On October 11 2011 01:38 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm glad we got to hear this from an expert!
Well ... not sure what you're implying her exactly, however - to clarify:
There are some people in any field of expertise that are gifted beyond the norm. Then if they have the discipline to develop those gifts, and the good fortune to be noticed in the wider social world, they stand out from the crowd and go on to great achievements.
Whether its classical piano, blazing fast rock guitar, quantum physics, or pro-gaming ... there are some people that have the Gift.
Flash has it. Jaedong. So did Eddie Van Halen (rock guitar). Or other people like that .. a bit of thought will uncover others).
They do it naturally on a higher level with less practice. Doesn't mean they necessarily are 'better' than other people in other areas. Maybe just that one.
But they do in that area that they become well known for. This bothers some people. They cant / will not accept that this person does the thing they slave away at and bang away at for thousands of hours ... and blows them away at it. They get envious .. some do ..
That doesn't change it. From what I have seen ... I think this kid Stephano is one of those people.
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On October 11 2011 03:35 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:18 Vocal wrote:On October 11 2011 03:06 JohnMatrix wrote:
he doesn't care of GSL he said it a tons of time. so code s, code a or code x or whatever he wont stay in korea like ThorZain did. If I was successful in one part of the world, so much that I'm wrecking the scene hard, why would I bother traveling to a far away place where I would surely get roflstomped? I totally get why he would say that, look what happened to the last ones who tried their hand in Korea. In fact, I'd be happier just letting the fans discuss what could have, should have, would have. At least it keeps my name alive longer, amirite? There's not been more than a handful of foreigner (with potential) that have really tried in Korea. Just going over for a month or so doesn't really count as trying.
Agreed, going to Korea for just one month doesnt even count as trying. As naniwa has said once yoou go to korea yoou need to break your play down so yoou can bring it back up again. He is going through that process right now, and he has been there for months. Going there for a few weeks to a month may allow you to get some solid practice hours in with some good players but you arent going to become a top top korean super star from just that. Im not saying it wont help, but if you are really commited to improving your play just a month is not worth it.
I dont want to read back to many pages, are people talking about what would happen IF stephano went to korea? Or is he actually planning on going to korea?
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On October 11 2011 03:52 Von wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:38 Choboo wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm glad we got to hear this from an expert! Well ... not sure what you're implying her exactly, however - to clarify: There are some people in any field of expertise that are gifted beyond the norm. Then if they have the discipline to develop those gifts, and the good fortune to be noticed in the wider social world, they stand out from the crowd and go on to great achievements. Whether its classical piano, blazing fast rock guitar, quantum physics, or pro-gaming ... there are some people that have the Gift. Flash has it. Jaedong. So did Eddie Van Halen (rock guitar). Or other people like that .. a bit of thought will uncover others). They do it naturally on a higher level with less practice. Doesn't mean they necessarily are 'better' than other people in other areas. Maybe just that one. But they do in that area that they become well known for. This bothers some people. They cant / will not accept that this person does the thing they slave away at and bang away at for thousands of hours ... and blows them away at it. They get envious .. some do .. That doesn't change it. From what I have seen ... I think this kid Stephano is one of those people.
What he's implying is that since you're a noob at sc2, you might not be the best of judge of Code S talent.
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On October 11 2011 03:56 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:35 nam nam wrote:On October 11 2011 03:18 Vocal wrote:On October 11 2011 03:06 JohnMatrix wrote:
he doesn't care of GSL he said it a tons of time. so code s, code a or code x or whatever he wont stay in korea like ThorZain did. If I was successful in one part of the world, so much that I'm wrecking the scene hard, why would I bother traveling to a far away place where I would surely get roflstomped? I totally get why he would say that, look what happened to the last ones who tried their hand in Korea. In fact, I'd be happier just letting the fans discuss what could have, should have, would have. At least it keeps my name alive longer, amirite? There's not been more than a handful of foreigner (with potential) that have really tried in Korea. Just going over for a month or so doesn't really count as trying. Agreed, going to Korea for just one month doesnt even count as trying. As naniwa has said once yoou go to korea yoou need to break your play down so yoou can bring it back up again. He is going through that process right now, and he has been there for months. Going there for a few weeks to a month may allow you to get some solid practice hours in with some good players but you arent going to become a top top korean super star from just that. Im not saying it wont help, but if you are really commited to improving your play just a month is not worth it. I dont want to read back to many pages, are people talking about what would happen IF stephano went to korea? Or is he actually planning on going to korea?
He is going to korea, not sure for how long.
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On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. 
lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG.
Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that.
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On October 11 2011 03:11 Bigtony wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:04 CurLy[] wrote:
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in somewhere.
As a live attendee to the event, putting the LoL finals on at Sunday night was a terrible idea. Many people could not stay at the casino Sunday night and it just kept getting delayed... The way Rachel tried to basically tell the crowd to not leave or your killing Esports was pretty amusing but of course I left. You can't expect someone who doesn't play LoL to sit in a crowd also disinterested for 2 hours. There were no more than 10-15 people watching the LoL games in the first place so I don't know man...
There is nothing wrong with being ahead of schedule... I had the same experience. I went over to the Bally's area thinking there would be swarms of league of legends fans there...no one. Back in the Circus Maximus it was very dead (although this is when I got to meet Apollo, inControl, and Anna ^_^). Overall I think live attendance for the event was very very low due to the venue. 21+ only was a very bad decision in hindsight.
I enjoyed seeing LoL. And I don't even play it. The casters were good.
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On October 11 2011 04:18 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:11 Bigtony wrote:On October 11 2011 03:04 CurLy[] wrote:
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in somewhere.
As a live attendee to the event, putting the LoL finals on at Sunday night was a terrible idea. Many people could not stay at the casino Sunday night and it just kept getting delayed... The way Rachel tried to basically tell the crowd to not leave or your killing Esports was pretty amusing but of course I left. You can't expect someone who doesn't play LoL to sit in a crowd also disinterested for 2 hours. There were no more than 10-15 people watching the LoL games in the first place so I don't know man...
There is nothing wrong with being ahead of schedule... I had the same experience. I went over to the Bally's area thinking there would be swarms of league of legends fans there...no one. Back in the Circus Maximus it was very dead (although this is when I got to meet Apollo, inControl, and Anna ^_^). Overall I think live attendance for the event was very very low due to the venue. 21+ only was a very bad decision in hindsight. I enjoyed seeing LoL. And I don't even play it. The casters were good.
Agreed.
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On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that.
In the game against Alive he only made zerglings, it was obvious that he wasnt playing serious. Did the HuK tournaments have any Koreans in them (maybe MC, not sure, but that would prove he can 4gate). When Naniwa won there were no Koreans at all.
When we include qualifier, Stephano defeated 10 koreans in total, with Code S players among them.
I will agree that it would be very unlickely that Stephano would win Orlando, but you cant just generalize his win the way you do.
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On October 11 2011 01:12 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:04 s4life wrote:On October 11 2011 00:49 Vocal wrote:On October 11 2011 00:38 Vul wrote:On October 11 2011 00:25 TaKemE wrote:
His for sure Code S level and he did beat all these in IPL 3/Qualifiers: Anypro, MarineKing, Revival, Puzzle, MMA, Huk, Boxer, Violet, Inori, TheStC, Lucky
Thats 4 Code S and 3 Code A + more Koreans. I don't think we can say code S level yet, but he's going to MLG Orlando in the open bracket, so he should hit some code S level players in a LAN setting. MarineKing, Polt and aLive are all in the open bracket. Stephano lost to aLive in the group stage at IPL3 by the way. I won't even bother starting the whole "online doesn't really compare to LAN which is why players like Mvp/Nestea don't bother with it much" argument, but yeah, a LAN setting is actually important especially when you're at the top of the world. And I love how Inori is suddenly getting a lot of hype alongside his teammate Lucky - this being their first LAN tournament and the results they showed? Geez. Yeah, but I feel lucky and inori's hype is similar to Ace and Squirtle's from last year.. pretty much undeserved. As for Stephano, he's skillful enough to win matches from high caliber players, we'll see how good he is at being consistent now that his play style will be scrutinized and he suddenly became a bigger target. Undeserved? Lucky beat Boxer-Ryung-MMA (and Ret). That's a crazy amount of ZvT to win, considering who those players are. We don't even know what would have happened had Stephano had to go through players like that (whom I will say MMA/Ryung has better TvZ then TheStC, and maybe even Boxer. ).
Yeah undeserved.. watch the games for yourself.. Lucky was really well... lucky in his (all-in) build orders and very effective use of burrowed banelings.
But sure, Stephano would have almost certainly lost to MMA and Ryung as he most likely wouldn't have cheesed his way to the finals.
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On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Main_Tournament
He beat Puzzle in the Qualifiers 2-0, MMA 2-1 in the Qualifiers and Lucky 4-0 in the finals. He also beat Inori (beat MC and HuK), Violet, theStC ("practice Gosu"), Revival (beat MC in GSTL), Kiwikaki and Socke.
Puzzle won Code A 2 months ago and was in Code S last month (now in Up/Downs). MMA is fucking MMA. Lucky is in the Up/Downs now, having got Ro8 in Code A. Anyone claiming Stephano got anything like an "easy run" in this tournament is kidding themselves.
I'm fairly sure MMA is Code S calibre material, but maybe you should correct me on that?
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On October 11 2011 04:24 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Main_TournamentHe beat Puzzle in the Qualifiers 2-0, MMA 2-1 in the Qualifiers and Lucky 4-0 in the finals. He also beat Inori (beat MC and HuK), Violet, theStC ("practice Gosu"), Revival (beat MC in GSTL), Kiwikaki and Socke. Puzzle won Code A 2 months ago and was in Code S last month (now in Up/Downs). MMA is fucking MMA. Lucky is in the Up/Downs now, having got Ro8 in Code A. Anyone claiming Stephano got anything like an "easy run" in this tournament is kidding themselves. I'm fairly sure MMA is Code S calibre material, but maybe you should correct me on that?
I dont count online results, neither should you.
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On October 11 2011 04:21 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. In the game against Alive he only made zerglings, it was obvious that he wasnt playing serious. Did the HuK tournaments have any Koreans in them (maybe MC, not sure, but that would prove he can 4gate). When Naniwa won there were no Koreans at all. When we include qualifier, Stephano defeated 10 koreans in total, with Code S players among them. I will agree that it would be very unlickely that Stephano would win Orlando, but you cant just generalize his win the way you do.
Thats why i said "i doubt he can pull a naniwa with top koreans there" and okay so now everytime stephano loses we will say "oh he wasnt taking it seriously" got it.
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On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that.
He beat Huk (a code s player). The one you are raving about. He beat him twice actually, in ipl and Homestory cup 2-0, huk even said on twitter: How do you beat that. Not too mention the other koreans he beat online: Puzzle, MMA, Marinekingprime... But that's obviously not worth mentioning because koreans don't take online stuff serious( online stuff where you can place yourself into an event where you can win 30k dollars). Oh, and if you come with an argument about lag for the koreans, guess what! Stephano qualified for it in Tunisia that has pretty crappy internet in the first place, + it was on NA server.
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On October 11 2011 04:26 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:21 Deckkie wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. In the game against Alive he only made zerglings, it was obvious that he wasnt playing serious. Did the HuK tournaments have any Koreans in them (maybe MC, not sure, but that would prove he can 4gate). When Naniwa won there were no Koreans at all. When we include qualifier, Stephano defeated 10 koreans in total, with Code S players among them. I will agree that it would be very unlickely that Stephano would win Orlando, but you cant just generalize his win the way you do. Thats why i said "i doubt he can pull a naniwa with top koreans there" and okay so now everytime stephano loses we will so "oh he wasnt taking it seriously" got it.
Did you even watch the games? After he lost to Alive he played Boxer and crushed him. In the interview afterwards he said that he wasnt stupid and ofcourse wouldnt do the all ling build against a "korean" again. (he didnt say korean but I think we can deduce that out of this comment).
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On October 11 2011 04:25 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:24 SeaSwift wrote:On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Main_TournamentHe beat Puzzle in the Qualifiers 2-0, MMA 2-1 in the Qualifiers and Lucky 4-0 in the finals. He also beat Inori (beat MC and HuK), Violet, theStC ("practice Gosu"), Revival (beat MC in GSTL), Kiwikaki and Socke. Puzzle won Code A 2 months ago and was in Code S last month (now in Up/Downs). MMA is fucking MMA. Lucky is in the Up/Downs now, having got Ro8 in Code A. Anyone claiming Stephano got anything like an "easy run" in this tournament is kidding themselves. I'm fairly sure MMA is Code S calibre material, but maybe you should correct me on that? I dont count online results, neither should you.
Why are you trying to take away from his win?
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On October 11 2011 04:02 dinsim1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:52 Von wrote:On October 11 2011 01:38 Choboo wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm glad we got to hear this from an expert! Well ... not sure what you're implying her exactly, however - to clarify: There are some people in any field of expertise that are gifted beyond the norm. Then if they have the discipline to develop those gifts, and the good fortune to be noticed in the wider social world, they stand out from the crowd and go on to great achievements. Whether its classical piano, blazing fast rock guitar, quantum physics, or pro-gaming ... there are some people that have the Gift. Flash has it. Jaedong. So did Eddie Van Halen (rock guitar). Or other people like that .. a bit of thought will uncover others). They do it naturally on a higher level with less practice. Doesn't mean they necessarily are 'better' than other people in other areas. Maybe just that one. But they do in that area that they become well known for. This bothers some people. They cant / will not accept that this person does the thing they slave away at and bang away at for thousands of hours ... and blows them away at it. They get envious .. some do .. That doesn't change it. From what I have seen ... I think this kid Stephano is one of those people. What he's implying is that since you're a noob at sc2, you might not be the best of judge of Code S talent.
Heheh... that, and the fact that the gift of hardwork beats 99 times out of 100 the gift of talent..
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Going for one month is the biggest waste of time ever. Three months isn't really cutting it either to be honest. Either you go there determined to improve for a long time or you don't go at all in my opinion
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FFS. Stephano rocked the tournament. Who knows whether he's Code S material? Can we just leave it at that and congratulate the guy on an excellent tournament? He played through some (apparently) very tough players and mostly completely destroyed them. GRATS!
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On October 11 2011 04:27 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 04:08 Executor1 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:46 Elem wrote:On October 11 2011 01:44 jyLee wrote:On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...
Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.
You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.
As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?
He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.
And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.
I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.
He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.
I'm going to rofl when he gets stomped trying to get through Code A. Poor, poor American. He will win MLG Orlando and get free Code S spot. lol okay there buddy, this isnt even as impressive as when huk won 2 majors in a row in the summer and has huk won an MLG yet? Honestly stephano didnt even beat any code s calibre players to win IPL. His win was certainly impressive, but im also pretty sure that the pressure really got to lucky. Lucky's ZVZ's against ret (whos no slouch) were far more impressive. Stephano beat a code a player in the finals and a Code b player in the semi's. Its obviously impressive but dont go around saying hes going to pull a naniwa at MLG with top koreans there. Just not going to happen. I could easily see him not making it out of the open bracket as MLG has stated that MLG orlando will have more koreans coming than any previous MLG. Stephano is an awesome player, and he totally deserved the win at IPL but i dont think hes going to be pulling off results like this at many other majors , at least not consistently. The korean roster for IPL3 was strong but it wasnt as strong as any of the MLG's. The koreans stephano beat consisted of 1 code a 3 code b's and 1 code s player who he lost to. When stephano faced a code S terran earlier in the tournament (alive) he got 2-0'd remember that. He beat Huk (a code s player). The one you are raving about. He beat him twice actually, in ipl and Homestory cup 2-0, huk even said on twitter: How do you beat that. Not too mention the other koreans he beat online: Puzzle, MMA, Marinekingprime... But that's obviously not worth mentioning because koreans don't take online stuff serious( online stuff where you can place yourself into an event where you can win 30k dollars). Oh, and if you come with an argument about lag for the koreans, guess what! Stephano qualified for it in Tunisia that has pretty crappy internet in the first place, + it was on NA Server.
Yea im not saying huk is at that level anymore at all though clearly why hes losing to code b players / hasnt made the top 6 of a tournament since then. Im just saying that this win isnt as impressive as huks 2 majors months ago and huk still isnt even making it into top spots at MLG. My point was is that people with more impressive wins have performed worse at MLG's so i doubt this one win is going to prove that he is going to tear through MLG orlando.
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