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On October 10 2011 04:36 Designakrobat wrote: if inori pulls some shit like that again i will lol at his ass getting 1/1/1'd twice vs stc....
it was normal attack, no cheese, sptehapno fail he didnt prepare after scouting
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On October 10 2011 04:36 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:34 tuestresfat wrote:On October 10 2011 04:32 Fiel wrote: Got a question guys, this has always bothered me.
Why is it that with one base P can saturate 4 gates, but with two bases P can only saturate 6 gates? Why can't P saturate 8 gates? different timing Actually, a two base P can do 8 gate production for a period of time, but it's very all-inny. 6 gate gives P some extra resources to tech, while 8gate is just all in gateway production with no teching. and has different timing. which is kinda the point. it's like if someone asked you whats the difference between 2gate and 4gate?
me - one hits at like 4mins the other hits around 6
you - one has more tech than the other and the latter is more "all-inny"
while your point has some truth, it's significantly less significant.
why I'm typing this: you inferred my point was completely incorrect while yours was the one and only answer. and no, 8gate is not more all in than 6gate. you cut probes hard to hit at the timing a 6gate does. it's like saying a 4gate that cuts at 20probes is differs from a 4gate that cuts at 25+ probes...
edit: differs in the sense of how all in the protoss is.
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On October 10 2011 04:37 Fruity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:31 Probe1 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:30 Fruity wrote:On October 10 2011 04:29 Notoriousz wrote: USA USA USA go stephano, win for our country! You're Swedish and Stephano is French.. "Our country" and "USA USA USA" are both incorrect. It's a joke from a few months ago when Artosis referred to the foreigners in a GSTL match as Team USA. That being a joke on our many underdog movies. Ah, I feel like a complete idiot now. :/ Thanks. The other part of the joke is that of the 8 foreigners on the team there were. 2 swedes, 2 Ukrainians, 1 Aussie, 1 Taiwanese player and 2 Canadians (although I guess Huk is half American).
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that +1 is way to fast another push ?
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 KingLori wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 Holgerius wrote: I see a ''USA! USA! USA!'' joke on every page now. It's not funny anymore. It was never funny, but Americans are so frustrated, because all NA Players are so horribly bad - so they need something. yeah there's no way an American would poke fun at themselves by making fun of the stereotypical over patriotic and ignorant American. There must be another reason that involves a subtle jab at NA plalyers. More of those "USA! USA!" comments are self-deprecating satire than you think @KingLori <------------
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On October 10 2011 04:40 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 10 2011 04:37 ClysmiC wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 andis35 wrote: omg lol now 2 base pushes are cheese and all-ins? Cheese, no. All-in, yes. If you completely sacrifice your economy to hit a 2-base timing, you MUST win with the timing or else you have no hope of winning in a macro game. not every 2 base timing sacrifices economy. A lot is just 2 base pressure, which is necessary vs Zerg 8gate cuts probes, and it's not pressure, it's all-out attacking... where did I say 8 gate didn't sacrifice economy? I just said not every 2 base build does. This convo is about 2 base pushes in general, not 8 gates.
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On October 10 2011 04:40 HackBenjamin wrote: Idra lost to STC in game 3 to marauder/hellion push after a failed bunker rush
oh damn, there were no LR's and I just got back t.t
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On October 10 2011 04:38 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 ComplexConf wrote: Haha.. Inori is so spot on with his decision making. Tbh, protoss so hard to play macro wise, just do a 8 gate timing and press on, end the game and win.. Its not pretty but tbh, its like your best shot at winning so I can't blame him...
Still. I hope Stephano as the last foreign hope reminds himself that he is playing a korean now. And they are notorious for executing simple and powerful builds/strats.. Protoss is actually the most simplistic race to play macro-wise.Is your statement based on anything other than your own protoss perception?
Terran is pretty simple
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On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL @ stephano hype. against koreans? no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us? Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong. :d I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins. You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea?
Implying that Dimaga is made of pure awesome, Nestea is meh.
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On October 10 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 ceaRshaf wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 minhbq299 wrote: Scout 7 gate and do not build spines what the fuck... Zergs are too greedy. its annoying. This, zergs play greedy get punished for it and the LR thread turns into a QQ whine fest... Ugh Stephano didn't know 8 gate pressure was coming. He was playing appropriately for what he scouted -- he simply didn't scout well enough. Not a matter of greed. Or was he supposed to sit on 2 base vs a FFEing protoss..? He scouted 7 gates no twilight no other tech etc. so Yea he did play too greedy only oen thing can come from seeing 7 gates and no other tech its called an all in, defend it dont take a quick far away third and drone up. He deserved to lose that game....
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On October 10 2011 04:40 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:39 CosmicSpiral wrote: Stephano didn't lose because he took a 3rd. He lost because he took a third with such a long travel distance to his natural. He could never attack with all his forces at once. He lost because he made Drones when he saw 6 gates.
You can make 5-8 drones at your third before the 8 gate hits and you'll be fine. Again, travel distance.
Against a 2-base timing push the key is to zone out the protoss forces and force them into an open area so you can rally all your forces to one point.
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What was this 2 zealots gift ?
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On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL @ stephano hype. against koreans? no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us? Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong. :d I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins. You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea? Are you implying he isn't?
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Steph gets third base down.
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On October 10 2011 04:39 Mainland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:35 doko100 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:28 KeksX wrote:On October 10 2011 04:27 jj33 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:On October 10 2011 04:21 jj33 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:20 Schenkee wrote: goto love the people QQing about the rushes, its part of the game you play to win. Its not the STCs fault idra didn't stop the rushes It's because they are the same people back in bw, who basically wanted 15 minute no rush bgh. Its because not every1 plays terran (like you), and has an option to scout, or put up free defenses.... I am seriously gonna stop watching this...getting pissed when i see who is winning and who is losing in this game... Ah well, Go stephano! nice try I'm a masters zerg. idra got outplayed. not stc's fault idra plays almost the same way every game and he exploited that. Hey masters zerg, how do you beat this hellion/marauder composition in a reasonable way that is not 1base infestor or something like that? If you can make such huge statements, I'm sure you know a lot better than pretty much all of us. If not, keep the bashing down. It's as bad as being a fanboy, if not even worse. mass roach completely crushes this push, or even pure lings can crush this push. best combo is ling/roach, it's actually not that strong of a push, it's easy to scout and you dont even have that many units, the unit mix might be hard to handle for some zerg but if you hold it off and get mutas its literally game over since the terran has nothing to defend against mutas. Idra almost held it off and he was caught by surprise, even though this push is so easy to scout it's actually beyond me how anyone can NOT scout it. terran has no anti air at all you could chill with overlords over his base all game and there is literally nothing that could kill them. the push in my opinion is really bad, idra almost held it without scouting it and being super greedy, if the zerg scouts it (which is super easy to scout) you just auto-lose and it doesn't even matter what he build. seriously you imba whiners dont understand this game at all and annoy the fuck out of me and pretty much everyone else in this thread, mods need to start doing their work for once. Yes. Spit some knowledge. Idra lost because he went to lair really early without scouting. As long as you stay on hatch a bit longer, marauder hellion isn't too scary. His biggest mistake imo was never getting a good look at how many hellions STC was producing at any time before he got to the watchtower. If he scouted StC making marauders he would've won the game. It's not the hellions, it's the marauder that's the key part of the push because early game terran never makes them against zerg except for a push like this or if there's a scouted roach bust or something.
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On October 10 2011 04:40 DJams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 04:36 templar rage wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 Chicane wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 DJams wrote: no GG?? He said "wpwp" which is nearly equivalent. I have actually never seen Stephano say gg, it's always gratz or wp etc Not sure I would classify losing to a 7gate AI as a "good game". "gg" doesn't mean "good game," it is a show of sportsmanship. So he had the choice of either have bad sportsmanship, or being a lier... he chose not to lie about how he feels.
It's not really a lie because it doesn't literally mean 'that was a good game'.
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On October 10 2011 04:41 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:37 Fruity wrote:On October 10 2011 04:31 Probe1 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:30 Fruity wrote:On October 10 2011 04:29 Notoriousz wrote: USA USA USA go stephano, win for our country! You're Swedish and Stephano is French.. "Our country" and "USA USA USA" are both incorrect. It's a joke from a few months ago when Artosis referred to the foreigners in a GSTL match as Team USA. That being a joke on our many underdog movies. Ah, I feel like a complete idiot now. :/ Thanks. The other part of the joke is that of the 8 foreigners on the team there were. 2 swedes, 2 Ukrainians, 1 Aussie, 1 Taiwanese player and 2 Canadians (although I guess Huk is half American).
Thanks for that, I'll just ignore the joke from now.
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On October 10 2011 04:42 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL @ stephano hype. against koreans? no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us? Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong. :d I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins. You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea? Are you implying he isn't?
Implying or not, he isn't.
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On October 10 2011 04:42 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL @ stephano hype. against koreans? no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us? Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong. :d I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins. You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea? Are you implying he isn't? Not sure if troll or just really really stupid :S
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