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On October 10 2011 04:36 ComplexConf wrote:
Haha.. Inori is so spot on with his decision making. Tbh, protoss so hard to play macro wise, just do a 8 gate timing and press on, end the game and win.. Its not pretty but tbh, its like your best shot at winning so I can't blame him...
Still. I hope Stephano as the last foreign hope reminds himself that he is playing a korean now. And they are notorious for executing simple and powerful builds/strats..
Protoss is actually the most simplistic race to play macro-wise.Is your statement based on anything other than your own protoss perception?
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how come the crowd is so small. Just a couple hundred of people are on site for the event. Weird.
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Stephano didn't lose because he took a 3rd. He lost because he took a third with such a long travel distance to his natural. He could never attack with all his forces at once.
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On October 10 2011 04:37 MCDayC wrote:
Is the there an embedded Team Liquid version of the JTV stream? Cause the IPL homepage isn't working.
...right hand bar. Where all the streams always are ;o
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Inori went down to Artist so I feel like even if he wins here, I don't think he'll take down theSTC. MMA should be able to take out Lucky too, I'm guessing we'll see theSTC and MMA in the finals.
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Haha silly foreigner fans placing all your hope in Zerg players. Zerg doesn't win games! 
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Just tuned in. What happened to IDra?
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Kevan wrote:
Well White Ra thinks Stephano is shit.
what?
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On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
LOL @ stephano hype.
against koreans?
no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us?
Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong.
:d
I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins.
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On October 10 2011 04:35 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:28 KeksX wrote:On October 10 2011 04:27 jj33 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:On October 10 2011 04:21 jj33 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:20 Schenkee wrote:
goto love the people QQing about the rushes, its part of the game you play to win. Its not the STCs fault idra didn't stop the rushes It's because they are the same people back in bw, who basically wanted 15 minute no rush bgh. Its because not every1 plays terran (like you), and has an option to scout, or put up free defenses.... I am seriously gonna stop watching this...getting pissed when i see who is winning and who is losing in this game... Ah well, Go stephano! nice try I'm a masters zerg. idra got outplayed. not stc's fault idra plays almost the same way every game and he exploited that. Hey masters zerg, how do you beat this hellion/marauder composition in a reasonable way that is not 1base infestor or something like that? If you can make such huge statements, I'm sure you know a lot better than pretty much all of us. If not, keep the bashing down. It's as bad as being a fanboy, if not even worse. mass roach completely crushes this push, or even pure lings can crush this push. best combo is ling/roach, it's actually not that strong of a push, it's easy to scout and you dont even have that many units, the unit mix might be hard to handle for some zerg but if you hold it off and get mutas its literally game over since the terran has nothing to defend against mutas. Idra almost held it off and he was caught by surprise, even though this push is so easy to scout it's actually beyond me how anyone can NOT scout it. terran has no anti air at all you could chill with overlords over his base all game and there is literally nothing that could kill them. the push in my opinion is really bad, idra almost held it without scouting it and being super greedy, if the zerg scouts it (which is super easy to scout) you just auto-lose and it doesn't even matter what he build. seriously you imba whiners dont understand this game at all and annoy the fuck out of me and pretty much everyone else in this thread, mods need to start doing their work for once.
Yes. Spit some knowledge. Idra lost because he went to lair really early without scouting. As long as you stay on hatch a bit longer, marauder hellion isn't too scary. His biggest mistake imo was never getting a good look at how many hellions STC was producing at any time before he got to the watchtower.
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Kevan wrote:
Well White Ra thinks Stephano is shit.
What?! Haha where's this from?
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Strike_ wrote:
Go stephano! make USA proud!!
Bwhahaha
Team USA fighting!
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On October 10 2011 04:37 ClysmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:35 andis35 wrote:
omg lol now 2 base pushes are cheese and all-ins? Cheese, no. All-in, yes. If you completely sacrifice your economy to hit a 2-base timing, you MUST win with the timing or else you have no hope of winning in a macro game.
not every 2 base timing sacrifices economy. A lot is just 2 base pressure, which is necessary vs Zerg
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:35 ceaRshaf wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 minhbq299 wrote:
Scout 7 gate and do not build spines what the fuck... Zergs are too greedy. its annoying. This, zergs play greedy get punished for it and the LR thread turns into a QQ whine fest... Ugh
Stephano didn't know 8 gate pressure was coming. He was playing appropriately for what he scouted -- he simply didn't scout well enough. Not a matter of greed. Or was he supposed to sit on 2 base vs a FFEing protoss..?
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On October 10 2011 04:38 parano1d. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:37 minhbq299 wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 parano1d. wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 red4ce wrote:
*sigh* Really Stephano? Who loses to this kind of strategy nowadays? He only lost because he didn't scout the pylon. If the push was delayed enough for inori to make a new pylon stephano had enough production to defend even with 2-3 spines he can win, and he already scout 6 additional gates, it mean at least 7 gatess Where would you build the spine crawlers... He has no idea where inori will hit him.. and he can't build 10 crawlers on both bases because he needs the production
Did he even scout the hidden 3rd? 3-5 Spines at the natural would probably be enough
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On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
LOL @ stephano hype.
against koreans?
no. Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round. Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ. What are you implying that ZvZ shows us?
dimaga 10pooled nestea...
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On October 10 2011 04:36 Horseballs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 04:36 templar rage wrote:On October 10 2011 04:35 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 Chicane wrote:On October 10 2011 04:34 DJams wrote:
no GG?? He said "wpwp" which is nearly equivalent. I have actually never seen Stephano say gg, it's always gratz or wp etc Not sure I would classify losing to a 7gate AI as a "good game". "gg" doesn't mean "good game," it is a show of sportsmanship.
Lolwut? You think "gg" doesn't mean "good game". I understand the show of sportmanship, but there are definitely other ways to show it than "gg". I personally hate the phrase because I would very rarely classify a game I lost as "good". Obviously it wasn't because I lost (played badly).
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On October 10 2011 04:38 Kevan wrote:
Well White Ra thinks Stephano is shit.
Standard WhiteRa BM.
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On October 10 2011 04:39 SojuTerran wrote:
Just tuned in. What happened to IDra?
game 1: bunker rushed, no way to come back (not an early leave)
game 2: macro game, idra won,
game 3: idra got killed by a timing attack, marauder hellion
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