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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7941
On October 10 2011 04:41 tuestresfat wrote:
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On October 10 2011 04:36 Tewks44 wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 tuestresfat wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:32 Fiel wrote:
Got a question guys, this has always bothered me.

Why is it that with one base P can saturate 4 gates, but with two bases P can only saturate 6 gates? Why can't P saturate 8 gates?

different timing


Actually, a two base P can do 8 gate production for a period of time, but it's very all-inny. 6 gate gives P some extra resources to tech, while 8gate is just all in gateway production with no teching.

and has different timing. which is kinda the point. it's like if someone asked you whats the difference between 2gate and 4gate?

me - one hits at like 4mins the other hits around 6

you - one has more tech than the other and the latter is more "all-inny"

while your point has some truth, it's significantly less significant.

why I'm typing this: you inferred my point was completely incorrect while yours was the one and only answer. and no, 8gate is not more all in than 6gate. you cut probes hard to hit at the timing a 6gate does. it's like saying a 4gate that cuts at 20probes is differs from a 4gate that cuts at 25+ probes...

edit: differs in the sense of how all in the protoss is.


my bad, I misinterpreted what you were saying. chill out bro
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7942
holy dam, that wall...how is he planning on moving out?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7943
why doesn't stephano scout?
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7944
On October 10 2011 04:40 DJams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:36 Horseballs wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:36 templar rage wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:35 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 Chicane wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 DJams wrote:
no GG??


He said "wpwp" which is nearly equivalent.


I have actually never seen Stephano say gg, it's always gratz or wp etc


Not sure I would classify losing to a 7gate AI as a "good game".



"gg" doesn't mean "good game," it is a show of sportsmanship.



So he had the choice of either have bad sportsmanship, or being a lier...

he chose not to lie about how he feels.


he always says gratz instead of gg, I don't see why you would think this is BM. The meaning is the same.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7945
Inori getting a twilight council. Steph getting att +1 and roach speed. Plants a spore.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7946
wtf how did he manage to get his units thorugh that wall?
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7947
On October 10 2011 04:42 Badfatpanda wrote:
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On October 10 2011 04:40 HackBenjamin wrote:
Idra lost to STC in game 3 to marauder/hellion push after a failed bunker rush


oh damn, there were no LR's and I just got back t.t

You didn't miss anything, the push was interesting and innovating, but IdrA didn't adjust his build and lost after he hold the first push
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7948
Dat wall on the front of Inori base oO
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7949
On October 10 2011 04:42 Zane wrote:
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On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
LOL @ stephano hype.
against koreans?
no.

Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round.


Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ.

What are you implying that ZvZ shows us?


Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong.
:d
I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins.


You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea?

Are you implying he isn't?


duh if dimaga was as good as nestea he'd win alot more tournaments lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#7950
JYP style.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7951
On October 10 2011 04:42 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:40 DJams wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:36 Horseballs wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:36 templar rage wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:35 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 Chicane wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 DJams wrote:
no GG??


He said "wpwp" which is nearly equivalent.


I have actually never seen Stephano say gg, it's always gratz or wp etc


Not sure I would classify losing to a 7gate AI as a "good game".



"gg" doesn't mean "good game," it is a show of sportsmanship.



So he had the choice of either have bad sportsmanship, or being a lier...

he chose not to lie about how he feels.


It's not really a lie because it doesn't literally mean 'that was a good game'.

I said good morning even though it's not actually a good morning, wow I must really lack integrity
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7952
what did he kill to get out? the pylon on top?

because a gateway is already rebuilt there.

Inori pulling some willy wonka shit
Zefa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7953
maybe sentry drop + blink??
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7954
Inori is powering up really really hard.

If he's allowed to get away with this small number of units, it could be really good for him.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7955
On October 10 2011 04:42 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On October 10 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:35 ceaRshaf wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 minhbq299 wrote:
Scout 7 gate and do not build spines what the fuck...


Zergs are too greedy. its annoying.

This, zergs play greedy get punished for it and the LR thread turns into a QQ whine fest... Ugh


Stephano didn't know 8 gate pressure was coming. He was playing appropriately for what he scouted -- he simply didn't scout well enough. Not a matter of greed. Or was he supposed to sit on 2 base vs a FFEing protoss..?

He scouted 7 gates no twilight no other tech etc. so Yea he did play too greedy only oen thing can come from seeing 7 gates and no other tech its called an all in, defend it dont take a quick far away third and drone up. He deserved to lose that game....


The 8 gates came after the 3rd was dropped, were you watching?
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beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7956
Inori goes for blink, Steph camping out his base trying to pressure.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7957
Semi-Artosis pylon there.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7958
On October 10 2011 04:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:42 Zane wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:40 Skullflower wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:36 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
LOL @ stephano hype.
against koreans?
no.

Dude, he beat Violet in the previous round.


Dimaga beat Nestea in ZvZ.

What are you implying that ZvZ shows us?


Dimaga is a god, Nestea is ZergBong.
:d
I'm pretty sure that even in zvz it's the better player who wins.


You're really implying that Dimaga is better than Nestea?

Are you implying he isn't?

Not sure if troll or just really really stupid :S

Well keep trying, I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually.
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7959
Wow super fast 4th
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#7960
On October 10 2011 04:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
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On October 10 2011 04:40 Denzil wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Stephano didn't lose because he took a 3rd. He lost because he took a third with such a long travel distance to his natural. He could never attack with all his forces at once.


He lost because he made Drones when he saw 6 gates.


You can make 5-8 drones at your third before the 8 gate hits and you'll be fine. Again, travel distance.

Against a 2-base timing push the key is to zone out the protoss forces and force them into an open area so you can rally all your forces to one point.

People are also ignoring that Stephano built 3 Roaches and 20 lings when he scouted the attack, but then he got supply blocked for a huge amount of time. If he'd had that 800/500 worth of roaches and lings before the stalker reinforcements arrived he would have had a much better chance of holding it.
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