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theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:37:47
October 05 2011 16:36 GMT
#4261
Bomber and DRG both losing? Best day of GSL ever for sure (no sarcasm).
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:39:28
October 05 2011 16:37 GMT
#4262
DRG was always at risk of choking.

Anyway important question guys: Is that poll on the front page sarcastic or real?

edit: Also receiving a little Shadenfreude for the Z results tonight.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
October 05 2011 16:37 GMT
#4263
On October 06 2011 00:57 XD_Melchior wrote:
Maybe Nestea overall, but I still absolutely believe DRG has the best notTvT in the world. For example, the AoL game versus MVP on Terminus, MVPs best map. The best played vT I've ever seen, hands down.

To anyone about to say "but he lost convincingly against terran XXX", don't forget that all top zergs are generally losing to top terrans at the moment. All. But DRG is the one guy that is actually almost even with them.


Sadly, it seems there is no ranks between absolutely overhyped/terribad and GSL winner. And even when you're a GSL multiple time winner, you're still overhyped and pretty standard, but you had a lucky run. Pretty solid is often a synonym of being boring and bad too and losing convincingly equals you've been raped by an outclassing player.

Therefore, code S all awful bronze-like players.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
LLuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria228 Posts
October 05 2011 16:38 GMT
#4264
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out.


What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean?



People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes.
AOL Spoilers
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Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.
Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meatgrinder
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
October 05 2011 16:43 GMT
#4265
poor leenock
TYBG
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
October 05 2011 16:45 GMT
#4266
On October 06 2011 01:28 CEPEHDREI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:25 bucckevin wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:53 Jumbled wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:50 Bagi wrote:
DRG is a good player and belongs in Code S, but there is no doubt in my mind that the foreigner community overrates him. That's what happens when a Korean player takes part in many foreigner tournaments, HerO is similar.

Nestea, Losira, July and Coca are all better than him.

DRG initially became popular because some of his play was streamed on TL and showcased some pretty innovative Zerg tactics.



You have got to be kidding. DRG and innovative do not go together. He's just really good at standard Muta/ling/bling and taking a quick 3rd against Terran. His vP is bad and vZ is ok. DRG got overhyped because TL is full of zerg players and they wanted a new hope that was not Terran or Nestea.


hes not overhyped. DRG is freakin good. he just doesnt have the results yet. hes the 2nd best zerg in the world. how can the 2nd best zerg in the world possibly be overhyped? thats bullshit. people/haters are expecting way too much out of these guys and thats just bullshit.

and dude im not even a DRG fan...

wow there are guys who think because of this loss that NesTeas ZvT is better than DRGs. my brain hurts.


Even Nestea is overhyped by Artosis. There is certainly a way to overhype 2nd best zerg, if he is.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 05 2011 16:46 GMT
#4267
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out.


What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean?



People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes.
AOL Spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.


uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style?

maybe do a little research first
The universe created an audience for itself.
pleskator
Profile Joined March 2011
Czech Republic40 Posts
October 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#4268
Sir Nestea, our Duke Bishop of Windzerg :D
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
October 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#4269
Awww come on, don't be mean to Ultras! I really still don't think they're bad, the maps just don't really favour them at the moment.

Broodlords are always going to be a superior siege unit, and Ultras' role is more to punish an opponent who's too spread out IMO. But of course on Metalopolis they're not going to be ideal.

(that's not to say I wouldn't be happy with a buff of course :D I just don't think they're as god-awful as people say)
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#4270
Can't believe this was still running when I got to work today. 5 hour day?
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
October 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#4271
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out.


What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean?



People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes.
AOL Spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.


That... is completely wrong, I always thought of DRG as one of the few players who does make a lot of roaches.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#4272
Just came to check results. MVP 2-0 Bomber. Awesome day .
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:56:37
October 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#4273
On October 06 2011 01:47 MilesTeg wrote:
Awww come on, don't be mean to Ultras! I really still don't think they're bad, the maps just don't really favour them at the moment.

Broodlords are always going to be a superior siege unit, and Ultras' role is more to punish an opponent who's too spread out IMO. But of course on Metalopolis they're not going to be ideal.

(that's not to say I wouldn't be happy with a buff of course :D I just don't think they're as god-awful as people say)


Actually pretty much the same as BW, in ZvT, you can only go for ultra when you are ahead, and want to finish the game. Otherwise, you will lose in most cases to decent terrans. Even when you are ahead, it is still risky to mass ultras against super good terrans. Flash with econ disadvantage killed Kwanro's around 40 ultras in that comeback match.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 05 2011 16:54 GMT
#4274
drg out... :'(
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
October 05 2011 16:54 GMT
#4275
Well there goes my chance of meeting DRG at Blizzcon
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
October 05 2011 16:56 GMT
#4276
On October 06 2011 01:46 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out.


What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean?



People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes.
AOL Spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.


uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style?

maybe do a little research first


ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 05 2011 16:59 GMT
#4277
on a side note bomber probably lost cause he spent last weekend training with foreigners at redbull lan, hah I kid.. (a little).
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dashmode
Profile Joined August 2011
60 Posts
October 05 2011 17:00 GMT
#4278
Turtling terran is so cost efficient, it isnt even funny. I mean cmon, the main reason why terran has been losing to zerg in last couple of weeks is because of pushing with their whole army and getting cought unprepared/unsieged/clumped in the middle of the map. Supernova showed today that u can be on many less bases vs zerg and be perfectly fine as long as you are playing defensive. The only option zerg has in situations like this is to go with broodlord, but with them you have to win right away until terran will prepare some kind of counter (they have many options). Yeah, but how u are going to win with broodlord right away when they are so slow? I really hate this both T3 units of zerg, they are so limited in many ways.

But anyway, the thing that I most dislike about zerg is their lack of defensive units and general their lack of defensive nature (?). Toss can play defensive, terran can play super defensive, but zerg just can't. That is the reason why zerg cannot be comback race like the other two, the moment they fall behind its a game over and thats a bit unfair in my opinion. I just hope with the new expansion and a new zerg units they as a race can be way more complete than now.

2bad DRG lost, but he really tried everyting to win against supernova. How often do you see a nydus play at this level? I mostly have on mind second map, but first one could have ended in his favor if he went BL, and on third he opted to go mutas which was perfectly countered by supernova build :/. In this situation I dont think any zerg will get past 1/8. MVP will destroy Nestea who was winning more by luck than outplaying his opponents so far and Coca isnt known for his zvt - Happy has really good tvz in my opinion.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 05 2011 17:02 GMT
#4279
On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote:
ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever.

How is it a joke when you don't even know what he is talking about.

7RR=/=the 2base Roach push recently invented against Hellion based styles.
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
October 05 2011 17:03 GMT
#4280
On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:46 Mortal wrote:
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:
On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out.


What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean?



People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes.
AOL Spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.


uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style?

maybe do a little research first


ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever.


We're talking about making 5-6 roaches off of 2 bases, following it up with a good number of lings to exploit the hole in the Terran wall that's about to be made, and grabbing a third base behind it. It's a purely responsive build after scouting a barracks+reactor opening from the Terran. The 7RR is an all-in.

Maybe do a little research first.
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