EPT[GSL] Oct Code S RO16 Day 2 - Page 214
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
Anyway important question guys: Is that poll on the front page sarcastic or real? edit: Also receiving a little Shadenfreude for the Z results tonight. | ||
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keioh
France1099 Posts
On October 06 2011 00:57 XD_Melchior wrote: Maybe Nestea overall, but I still absolutely believe DRG has the best notTvT in the world. For example, the AoL game versus MVP on Terminus, MVPs best map. The best played vT I've ever seen, hands down. To anyone about to say "but he lost convincingly against terran XXX", don't forget that all top zergs are generally losing to top terrans at the moment. All. But DRG is the one guy that is actually almost even with them. Sadly, it seems there is no ranks between absolutely overhyped/terribad and GSL winner. And even when you're a GSL multiple time winner, you're still overhyped and pretty standard, but you had a lucky run. Pretty solid is often a synonym of being boring and bad too and losing convincingly equals you've been raped by an outclassing player. Therefore, code S all awful bronze-like players. | ||
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LLuke
Austria228 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote: What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. | ||
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
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Jaedong4thOSL
United States487 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:28 CEPEHDREI wrote: hes not overhyped. DRG is freakin good. he just doesnt have the results yet. hes the 2nd best zerg in the world. how can the 2nd best zerg in the world possibly be overhyped? thats bullshit. people/haters are expecting way too much out of these guys and thats just bullshit. and dude im not even a DRG fan... wow there are guys who think because of this loss that NesTeas ZvT is better than DRGs. my brain hurts. Even Nestea is overhyped by Artosis. There is certainly a way to overhype 2nd best zerg, if he is. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote: People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style? maybe do a little research first | ||
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pleskator
Czech Republic40 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
Broodlords are always going to be a superior siege unit, and Ultras' role is more to punish an opponent who's too spread out IMO. But of course on Metalopolis they're not going to be ideal. (that's not to say I wouldn't be happy with a buff of course :D I just don't think they're as god-awful as people say) | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote: People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. That... is completely wrong, I always thought of DRG as one of the few players who does make a lot of roaches. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Jaedong4thOSL
United States487 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:47 MilesTeg wrote: Awww come on, don't be mean to Ultras! I really still don't think they're bad, the maps just don't really favour them at the moment. Broodlords are always going to be a superior siege unit, and Ultras' role is more to punish an opponent who's too spread out IMO. But of course on Metalopolis they're not going to be ideal. (that's not to say I wouldn't be happy with a buff of course :D I just don't think they're as god-awful as people say) Actually pretty much the same as BW, in ZvT, you can only go for ultra when you are ahead, and want to finish the game. Otherwise, you will lose in most cases to decent terrans. Even when you are ahead, it is still risky to mass ultras against super good terrans. Flash with econ disadvantage killed Kwanro's around 40 ultras in that comeback match. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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meep
United States1699 Posts
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bucckevin
858 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:46 Mortal wrote: uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style? maybe do a little research first ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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dashmode
60 Posts
But anyway, the thing that I most dislike about zerg is their lack of defensive units and general their lack of defensive nature (?). Toss can play defensive, terran can play super defensive, but zerg just can't. That is the reason why zerg cannot be comback race like the other two, the moment they fall behind its a game over and thats a bit unfair in my opinion. I just hope with the new expansion and a new zerg units they as a race can be way more complete than now. 2bad DRG lost, but he really tried everyting to win against supernova. How often do you see a nydus play at this level? I mostly have on mind second map, but first one could have ended in his favor if he went BL, and on third he opted to go mutas which was perfectly countered by supernova build :/. In this situation I dont think any zerg will get past 1/8. MVP will destroy Nestea who was winning more by luck than outplaying his opponents so far and Coca isnt known for his zvt - Happy has really good tvz in my opinion. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote: ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever. How is it a joke when you don't even know what he is talking about. 7RR=/=the 2base Roach push recently invented against Hellion based styles. | ||
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Slivered Skin
Canada347 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote: ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever. We're talking about making 5-6 roaches off of 2 bases, following it up with a good number of lings to exploit the hole in the Terran wall that's about to be made, and grabbing a third base behind it. It's a purely responsive build after scouting a barracks+reactor opening from the Terran. The 7RR is an all-in. Maybe do a little research first. | ||
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