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On October 06 2011 01:37 Sabu113 wrote:
DRG was always at risk of choking.
Anyway important question guys: Is that poll on the front page sarcastic or real?
edit: Also receiving a little Shadenfreude for the Z results tonight.
It is actually for real : the only buildings/units we didn't saw today were hydra(and hydra den obviously) for zerg and reapers/bc and raven (i'm not sure I didn't watched the TvT's).
We had nukes and nydus on the same game ! :D
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If Virus take a game off nestea, he has no chance at all beating mvp. I just cannot imagine it happening specially after last season's 2-0
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On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.
Roaches are so awful units vs terran that they should never be made. People can abuse nestea's/coca's zvt too.
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On October 06 2011 01:52 Dreamer.T wrote:Just came to check results. MVP 2-0 Bomber. Awesome day  .
but your quote says you like they both. Confusing day
I really wish I stayed up the extra like 15 minutes to watch these games T_T.
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DongRaeGu has been figured out since Raleigh by Bomber apparently. When NaDa complained about being the only Korean Terran that lost to DongRaeGu, Bomber replied with something akin to "I'll tell you how to beat him" and proceeded to telling NaDa DongRaeGu's tactics.
As of late, it's been fairly obvious that DongRaeGu goes for really fast muta to quickly punish any attempts at dropping, to harass mineral lines, and to take out straggling tanks or marines, with his mass mutas being supported primarily by mass speedlings due to lack of gas. He responds to Terran fast expands by either getting one or two of his own, and pumps more resources into mutas due to its one-shot efficiency when there are a high number of them. When he sees mass marine or thor to counter his mutas, he goes straight to infestors and attempts to draw the enemy's marines away by picking off tanks at the edges, then he fungals with his infestors and surrounds with both lings and muta. When it reaches the late game and the Terran is upgraded to 3-3, and it gets harder to harass their expos or main, he usually switches to hive-tech (brood + ultra) due to their durability and the brood's range. This is where he ends up losing a lot (I've seen several occasions, like in his MLG run, the Valencia invitational and recent GSTLs), because he can't get a perfect balance between his primary attacking units (sometimes massing too much ultra and brood) when his main army composition from mid-game gets defeated. If his and the enemy's lategame armies haven't clashed yet, the Terran can take advantage of DongRaeGu's slow units and low muta numbers, and either drops at multiple hatchery spots or takes down tech structures, packs up, leaves and regroups with the main army before facing DongRaeGu's army. When DongRaeGu starts struggling due to lack of resources and the enemy's greatly defended expands or main/natural, he GGs.
Basically, the Terran player just has to keep a compact and well-defended position with quite a few turrets and bunkers, and has to take down DongRaeGu's mutas in the mid-game to almost guarantee themselves a win against him. People have also tried to cheese him a lot due to his fast-tracking to mass muta via early game 11-11 rax, but since he's gotten used to defending bunker rushes with just a few lings and drones, they've gone to early reactor hellion openings instead.
I think I've been watching too much of the Dong's games recently.
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On October 05 2011 23:54 PlosionCornu wrote:
Whole day spent doing nothing in University ( professors cancelled classes over and over again).
how amazing was today from 0 to 10?
11 in matches.
Nestea's 3rd match was easily 25/10 in terms of ranking.
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On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches.
yup
it's the risk you run when you use stylistic play
supernova cleared studied DRG and tailored his strategy to abuse DRG's timings, except he did it in a more subtle way by playing super greedy early on, instead of do some sort of timing attack to try and cripple him before mutas come out
this is what makes korean level starcraft so magical
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On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:46 Mortal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style? maybe do a little research first ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever.
you are so dumb it's mind-bottling. notice i said off of 2 BASES. 7rr is a terrible 1 base build. completely different
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Come on Nestea, bling bust MVP for quick wins
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On October 06 2011 01:49 MilesTeg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. That... is completely wrong, I always thought of DRG as one of the few players who does make a lot of roaches.
Did you watch AOL? If you did you would realize that DRG didn't make a single roach the entire series and it's why he lost.
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On October 06 2011 02:09 Darksoldierr wrote:
If Virus take a game off nestea, he has no chance at all beating mvp. I just cannot imagine it happening specially after last season's 2-0
I cannot imagine MVP losing against anyone anymore.
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On October 06 2011 02:17 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. yup it's the risk you run when you use stylistic play supernova cleared studied DRG and tailored his strategy to abuse DRG's timings, except he did it in a more subtle way by playing super greedy early on, instead of do some sort of timing attack to try and cripple him before mutas come out this is what makes korean level starcraft so magical
oh come on, this series wouldve been a 2:0 sweep had dongraegu not thrown away game 1
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This can' t be the best day of GSL ever, cause there was no protoss in it. The best day should contain all 3 races competing, not 1 Race & NesTea.
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On October 06 2011 02:18 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote:On October 06 2011 01:46 Mortal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:38 LLuke wrote:On October 06 2011 01:31 epoc wrote:On October 06 2011 00:02 Trizz wrote:
4/4 liquidbet aww yeah, just as i predicted.
supernova is underrated and dongreagu's zvt is being figured out. What the hell does "donraegu's zvt is being figured out" mean? People watch Dongraegu, find holes in his play, and abuse this holes. AOL Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Like MKP did with Hellions, as DRG rarely goes roaches. uh, rarely goes roaches? are you forgetting that he literally was one of the, if not the very first, zerg in korea to do a roach opening on 2 base (7-8 roaches) to counter the new hellion/marine style? maybe do a little research first ROFL this must be a joke. 7 roach rush has been there since....forever. you are so dumb it's mind-bottling. notice i said off of 2 BASES. 7rr is a terrible 1 base build. completely different
"you are so dumb it's mind-bottling."
Not sure if troll.
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On October 06 2011 02:21 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 02:09 Darksoldierr wrote:
If Virus take a game off nestea, he has no chance at all beating mvp. I just cannot imagine it happening specially after last season's 2-0 I cannot imagine MVP losing against anyone anymore.
Except Tails :p
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Man it owuld have been epic if NesTea was knocked out as well and 7T in the top 8
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United Arab Emirates874 Posts
I just watched the vods, and oh my. Those were really good games! :D
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Man, no GSL for 2 days now, HOW WILL I SURVIVE ? :D
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lol i didnt follow sc2 for about 2 weeks and since when gsl broadcast at 6.45pm uk time??
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EPT
