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Please avoid making the following comments in this topic: -Balance complaints; -Player or caster bashing; -Stream quality or lag complaints;-Offtopic arguments and negativisms. -No effort posts such as +1's, quotes without adding to them and general 'hahaha' etc posts. This is a free event hosted for your entertainment, please enjoy it as such and treat your fellow community members with respect when you post. Transgressions of forum rules and etiquette will be met with bans. For tournament information and results please check our Liquipedia site for the event! You can find it at the end of this link: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_DreamHack/Valencia_InvitationalIf you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM on site or query me on IRC. Have fun ~Nyovne On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english? Can you speak Korean? I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish. Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?
Koreans do learn English in school. It's that the majority of them are insecure about speaking English in front of a big audience. While you know German and Spanish, I doubt you'll want to be answering questions in front of German/Spanish audience and thousands of viewers. You'd prefer to answer them in your native language in order to express yourself more confidently.
He's already nervous as hell, you don't want to compound that with him playing verbal gymnastics in his brain trying to come up with the right word in a second language when a translator is easily available.
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On September 18 2011 00:00 Montana[TK] wrote:
Hey Nyovne, put the Liquipedia link into the header thingie so people don't have to constantly ask for scores.
Thanks, good idea! I'll get on it.
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Now imagine Hero's play with warp prisms never dieing, immortals being +1 range, infestors being useless vs colossi armies. Blizzard are clearly patching too early. Just because Protoss are sitting on a death ball, without moving out, without scouting, in insane turtle, doesn't mean they are UP against a 6 base Zerg.
I believe any problem mid or late game should NOT be patched. Early game stuff such as 1-1-1, 5 rax reaper, 2 rax, 4 gate pvp, should be patched.
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is replays/vods going to be available=[?
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On September 18 2011 00:00 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:59 Binabik wrote:On September 17 2011 23:57 Roggay wrote:On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.
Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol.. Actually they are right, there is no excuse for having that much mineral. You can always replace those drones (and it is even easier with macro hatchs). He only needs 3 Spines +1 Spore and 1 OverLord spotting around each base and everything's fine. Not when the opponent is warping in 10 charge zealots with upgrades.
Well if he had Lings and decent upgrades and Spines he would be fine. Idra is going into NA powerlevel.
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sometimes i wish TL was a bit more like 2p2, in breaks I'd just post nude chicks to everyone's enjoyment
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I missed Huk v Thorzain, how were the games?
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On September 17 2011 23:56 magnaflow wrote:
I really wish blizzard wouldn't patch. It's quite obvious with this WP/sentry play that they are evolving the meta game for themselves. And now when the patch hits people will start to cry protoss is OP
Please don't take the balance discussion in this thread.
Regardless, there isn't much to base it on when one of the best Korean players meets a mediocre foreign Zerg yet has massive trouble and has to play the game of his life and have the opponent do major mistakes to even win.
However, great play by Hero. Looking forward to see him vs Thorzain.
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+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way.
What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much.
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I think Nani's mindset unfortunately (like Idra) has been affected by the current state of his race, and his own understanding of the games balance. I really hope it doesn't stop him from winning against Rain though, been a while since I saw Protoss win against a korean terran ;D
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Idra's multitasking and crisis management was plain bad that game. At one point Hero took out the 5th and was attacking the 4th's Hatchery, Idra's Roaches were almost next to the Zealots and he could have easily cleaned them up, but Hero dropped the main too and Idra's one-hotkey army all went to the main instead of splitting off some units and first taking out the Zealots.
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Gotta say that paying the extremely expensive sum of 1kr for the aftonbladet stream has been totally worth it. Great interviews in between games and 0 lag.
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On September 17 2011 23:59 soupchicken wrote:
Stephano is the future of foreign zergs IMO. Guy is way better mechanically and strategically than Idra.
I agree. Him also fully dedicating a year to being a fulltime professional is quite the scary proposition.
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On September 18 2011 00:01 drew-chan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:00 Elem wrote:On September 17 2011 23:59 Binabik wrote:On September 17 2011 23:57 Roggay wrote:On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.
Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol.. Actually they are right, there is no excuse for having that much mineral. You can always replace those drones (and it is even easier with macro hatchs). He only needs 3 Spines +1 Spore and 1 OverLord spotting around each base and everything's fine. 8 upgraded chargelots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 spines. That's how much they own spines. but the 3 spines would be enough to buy time for any zerg to react in time... You clearly do not know how fast chargelots kill things. They'd fall over in less than a few seconds. IdrA's army was way too immobile and his creep spread was poor.
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On September 18 2011 00:01 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:00 MrCon wrote:On September 17 2011 23:56 niteReloaded wrote:On September 17 2011 23:53 MrCon wrote:
TL had really some sick nose to pick up hero. I know they had huk and jinro inside the house to notice him, but still, they picked him up right as he exploded in the scene (or he exploded in the scene because they picked him up).
I mean, his korean TLPD was fucking awful, and now his int TLPD is bonjwa-like (not that he is one, please don't make a 20 pages debate because I used that word) with all matchups over 70%.
If you're talking about exploding in foreign scene, then that's what'll happen if you take any solid Korean and put him in USA or Europe. I know, but we don't see MC or any other korean protoss play PvZ that way (actually, he's the only one with some european protoss that can win PvZ atm) It's not only that he's good, it's that he's better than a lot of koreans. JYP plays a similiar style.
And wouldn't you know JYP beat DRG so I think they're onto something here.
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On September 17 2011 23:57 iLikeRain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:56 NexUmbra wrote:On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english? Can you speak Korean? I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish. They all use the same alphabet, Korean and English don't. Even in UK I guarantee you no one who just goes to school and does french cannot speak french, they must learn it in another way. After doing 4 years of french all I can say is what my name is, and where I live -.- The priority of learning english seems to be high in all european countries. Korea must not care much about it  Thanks, that's the answer I was looking for. Immature TL posters flaming me cos I ask why we don't often see Koreans who speak English, jeez 
Try to learn an Asian language and you'll understand how hard it is. And even if you think you're good at that language, you're going to be speaking really weirdly and barely comprehensibly to the native speakers just like Asians trying to learn English or another European language.
It's not just the alphabet, it's the sounds and grammatical structure. European languages have roots that didn't break off that far off from each other, but Asian languages are really far and away from European languages.
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sucks for eg this tournament. both of their players have been knocked out in the first round. but then again it was against very good players and both huk and idra played extremely well
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Cheering for Rain. He gets hated on too much imo. No one was giving him high five either.
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On September 17 2011 23:57 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english? Can you speak Korean? I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish. All of those are European languages and somewhat similar. Try learning Chinese, Korean or Japanese. It would probably take at least 5-10 years to become fluent in it from a Western background, and vice versa if you only knew an Asian language.
Japanese is pretty simple and quite logical to learn. Hell it reminds me of spanish for some reason.
I dunno about korean or chinese tho.
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On September 17 2011 23:57 Designakrobat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:54 Dev11 wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english? my understanding is that most of them can speak some english but they wont speak it because they think its bad (And maybe it is) so they dont do it thats what i like about mc for example. he has the balls to at least try to do his best in speaking a foreign language
DRG spoke some english in MLG which was admirable. I wouldn't speak swedish for big crowds either, although having "studied" it 5 years.
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