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Please avoid making the following comments in this topic: -Balance complaints; -Player or caster bashing; -Stream quality or lag complaints;-Offtopic arguments and negativisms. -No effort posts such as +1's, quotes without adding to them and general 'hahaha' etc posts. This is a free event hosted for your entertainment, please enjoy it as such and treat your fellow community members with respect when you post. Transgressions of forum rules and etiquette will be met with bans. For tournament information and results please check our Liquipedia site for the event! You can find it at the end of this link: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_DreamHack/Valencia_InvitationalIf you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM on site or query me on IRC. Have fun ~Nyovne On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On September 18 2011 00:03 ZAiNs wrote:
Idra's multitasking and crisis management was plain bad that game. At one point Hero took out the 5th and was attacking the 4th's Hatchery, Idra's Roaches were almost next to the Zealots and he could have easily cleaned them up, but Hero dropped the main too and Idra's one-hotkey army all went to the main instead of splitting off some units and first taking out the Zealots.
Yeah I cringed when I saw this.
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On September 17 2011 23:54 iky43210 wrote:
hero truly shows how warp prism should be used.
I love all the protoss that used to tell me how bad protoss drops were. Hopefully they can learn a thing or two from Hero.
That is to be open minded to new strats
that worked solely because he didnt expect drop play...
He just neglected drop defense, as do MANY MANY zergs and terrans against protoss.
If he would've played against toss like he plays against terran, those drops wouldnt even have happened.
More spines, more units around the base, better overloard placement.(really, what is supposed to kill them?)
He had 5000 minerals, even protoss would've had 30 cannons around their bases in that phase of the game...
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Idra is just a machine that can bank the most amount of resources out of all people. Now, what he does with those resources is not that great though.
Hero played like a terran there and idra should have been able to hold it.
And what's the point in having a huge lead if you wait for your opponent to make something up. No drops, no frontal attacks, no sneaky infestor play, no....nothing. Just 6k of minerals.
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Naniwa looks batshit crazy while warming up LOL and rains new hairstyle ^^
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
Spoilers from broodwar? No he can't expect them in a Sc2 live-report
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
OSL spoilers in a dreamhack SC2 LR is to be expected, o wait...
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
yea but you shouldn't expect spoilers from other tournaments..
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Hairstyling competition coming. Shampoo girls on the way.
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
... for a DIFFERENT game and a DIFFERENT tournament? come on...
anyway, can't wait to for DRG Vs Rain/Nani and HerO vs Tzain
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
It's DH live thread not an OSL live thread. I used to see people using spoilers when talking about others league than the live thread one.
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
Yeah because I expected OSL spoilers in a dreamhack thread jesus christ.
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On September 18 2011 00:03 )z(SubZero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:03 nojok wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 23:59 proofy wrote:
This is Protoss day. Jangbi and Hero lead the way. What a brat. I was waiting for games in youtube because I could not watch live, thank you very much. im sorry but this is a live thread... u can expect spoilers. so gtfo instead.
This is not the lr thread for the OSL finals....you can expect spoilers there but not here.
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If you want to see koreans speak english catch the VoD of "The Grass is always Greener" from yesterday. 2 hours of koreans coaching MrBitter and RotterdaM :D
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On September 18 2011 00:01 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:00 MrCon wrote:On September 17 2011 23:56 niteReloaded wrote:On September 17 2011 23:53 MrCon wrote:
TL had really some sick nose to pick up hero. I know they had huk and jinro inside the house to notice him, but still, they picked him up right as he exploded in the scene (or he exploded in the scene because they picked him up).
I mean, his korean TLPD was fucking awful, and now his int TLPD is bonjwa-like (not that he is one, please don't make a 20 pages debate because I used that word) with all matchups over 70%.
If you're talking about exploding in foreign scene, then that's what'll happen if you take any solid Korean and put him in USA or Europe. I know, but we don't see MC or any other korean protoss play PvZ that way (actually, he's the only one with some european protoss that can win PvZ atm) It's not only that he's good, it's that he's better than a lot of koreans. JYP plays a similiar style.
Yeah he does, with similar success too. These are the only two protoss that look decent against zergs right now, and they play a similar style.
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Go Nani, take revenge for the MLG games and win!
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On September 18 2011 00:03 Paladia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:56 magnaflow wrote:
I really wish blizzard wouldn't patch. It's quite obvious with this WP/sentry play that they are evolving the meta game for themselves. And now when the patch hits people will start to cry protoss is OP Please don't take the balance discussion in this thread. Regardless, there isn't much to base it on when one of the best Korean players meets a mediocre foreign Zerg yet has massive trouble and has to play the game of his life and have the opponent do major mistakes to even win. However, great play by Hero. Looking forward to see him vs Thorzain.
>Asks others not to complain about balance.
Makes a balance complaint himself.
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wow beautiful city.
Also this is good music
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On September 18 2011 00:03 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 00:02 Micket wrote:
Now imagine Hero's play with warp prisms never dieing, immortals being +1 range, infestors being useless vs colossi armies. Blizzard are clearly patching too early. Just because Protoss are sitting on a death ball, without moving out, without scouting, in insane turtle, doesn't mean they are UP against a 6 base Zerg.
I believe any problem mid or late game should NOT be patched. Early game stuff such as 1-1-1, 5 rax reaper, 2 rax, 4 gate pvp, should be patched.
He almost lost 1 prism, he used no Immortals and the game was over when NP came into play...
Are you trying to say the game would have played out the same in patch 1.4? Infestors have a fungal nerf too
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On September 18 2011 00:03 Dalavita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:57 teamsolid wrote:On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english? Can you speak Korean? I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish. All of those are European languages and somewhat similar. Try learning Chinese, Korean or Japanese. It would probably take at least 5-10 years to become fluent in it from a Western background, and vice versa if you only knew an Asian language. Japanese is pretty simple and quite logical to learn. Hell it reminds me of spanish for some reason. I dunno about korean or chinese tho.
I think Chinese is not too bad to read / write, but to listen / talk I find it very hard. Japanese is easier in that regard, but harder in the other
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