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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
September 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#3321
On September 18 2011 00:03 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:02 Micket wrote:
Now imagine Hero's play with warp prisms never dieing, immortals being +1 range, infestors being useless vs colossi armies. Blizzard are clearly patching too early. Just because Protoss are sitting on a death ball, without moving out, without scouting, in insane turtle, doesn't mean they are UP against a 6 base Zerg.

I believe any problem mid or late game should NOT be patched. Early game stuff such as 1-1-1, 5 rax reaper, 2 rax, 4 gate pvp, should be patched.

He almost lost 1 prism, he used no Immortals and the game was over when NP came into play...


imagine if hero was actually playing someone on his level.

Before you can talk about balance, at least do it between two players who are equally skilled.

Hero is on another level.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3322
holy shit that translator guy can do Korean-English-Spanish O.o
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3323
On September 18 2011 00:03 ZAiNs wrote:
but Hero dropped the main too and Idra's one-hotkey army all went to the main instead of splitting off some units and first taking out the Zealots.



This.

Really sloppy play there, could have easily cleaned up the drop at his 5th and potentially dealt with the drop in his main If he didn't have his entire army on 1 Hotkey.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3324
On September 18 2011 00:03 Skullflower wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:59 soupchicken wrote:
Stephano is the future of foreign zergs IMO. Guy is way better mechanically and strategically than Idra.


I agree. Him also fully dedicating a year to being a fulltime professional is quite the scary proposition.


Imagine if he decides to move to Korea for a while. He will become a monster.

And the most funny thing, he doesnt have a crazy apm. He is so relaxed while playing, makes it look so easy to stomp people on ladder.
I've got moves like Jagger
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3325
Lets go Nani!
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
deeshoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States319 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3326
is that thing that rain was messing around with behind him an air conditioner? or is that the white noise generator?
gl hf :D
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3327
On September 18 2011 00:05 Radook wrote:
If you want to see koreans speak english catch the VoD of "The Grass is always Greener" from yesterday. 2 hours of koreans coaching MrBitter and RotterdaM :D

Which Koreans?
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3328
Good grief what a lovely place. Wish i was there.
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3329
On September 18 2011 00:02 Micket wrote:
Now imagine Hero's play with warp prisms never dieing, immortals being +1 range, infestors being useless vs colossi armies. Blizzard are clearly patching too early. Just because Protoss are sitting on a death ball, without moving out, without scouting, in insane turtle, doesn't mean they are UP against a 6 base Zerg.

I believe any problem mid or late game should NOT be patched. Early game stuff such as 1-1-1, 5 rax reaper, 2 rax, 4 gate pvp, should be patched.


100% agree with this. Think blizzard should consider buffing zerg static defences. The overall cost (minerals + larva) is way more then other races have to put in. In order to feel relatively save against harrasement that Hero shows, you need around 6+ spine crawlers in each base/expo.
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3330
On September 18 2011 00:04 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I have a feeling Idra isn't even trying anymore.


It's funny because when he streams NA:Grandmaster, he's much more skilled than the players and just gets bored. Obviously that's NA, but he's also on the same practice schedule as the others in EG house. I don't think he's giving up at all, but (like usual) it's part of his psychology. Considering his statements about Protoss all along; he believes that it's an unfair matchup (to say it lightly).
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3331
On September 17 2011 23:55 marttorn wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:53 tomatriedes wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:51 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:50 Elroi wrote:
Why does the commentator say that Idra is playing extremely well all the time when he gets outplayed?


Because he loves idra amongst other reasons


Yeah Total Biscuit sounds like a complete Idra fanboy.


You guys know he and IdrA had a bit of a e-fight over Twitter? Some unpleasant words were exchanged. Of course that was a long time ago and it would be unprofessional of TB to hold a grudge but yeah, it's funny in hindsight that he's apparently a big idra-admirer now.


Just listen to the commentary and see how many times he effusively praises some sort of mediocre Idra move. Maybe he's overcompensating for what happened before.
r0x0r
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany293 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3332
Valencia is beautiful.
"[...]and I think that many Korean players will go overseas to compete, because foreign fans have something korean fans don't have -- heart." - MMA
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3333
Aaawww yeeeeaaaahhhh, language discussion in an LR thread, classic -_-;; Could we discuss something more relevant, like ancient cultures and which ones were more racially sensitive?
memes are a dish best served dank
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3334
NANIWA, REVENGE TIME XD
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
September 17 2011 15:06 GMT
#3335
On September 18 2011 00:04 setzer wrote:
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On September 18 2011 00:00 cilinder007 wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:56 noBode wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.

Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?


You do realize that while European languages are relatively similar to each other. They are very different from Asian language, right? It's much easier for Koreans to learn languages like Japanese, or Chinese too.


You do realise european languages also come from different language groups right ?

I mean my language is nothing even remotely similar to english (slovenian) but I've just been learning it from the internets for long enough to become second nature, but sayting all EU languages and english are relatively similar is just REALY ignorant


Europeans frequently travel to neighboring countries and it is important to know a multitude of languages to better community, not to mention the cultural similarities to other English speaking nations. Korea, on the other hand, has only frequently emerged as a fully developed country. Learning English isn't as important as learning another Asian language like Chinese. It is like asking a native Russian why he can't speak Portuguese.

Yeah Serbian and Swedish are quite similar. JKJK but most of the european languages are from the same language tree except for finnish and eastern european countries
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
September 17 2011 15:07 GMT
#3336
ahahahahahaha 2gd
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
September 17 2011 15:07 GMT
#3337
That location man... makes me want to book a flight.
Quote?
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
September 17 2011 15:07 GMT
#3338
YES. GET. RID. OF. HER.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 17 2011 15:07 GMT
#3339
they made me say it. it's on the card.
nice line xD
Crazyahmed
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada280 Posts
September 17 2011 15:07 GMT
#3340
guys stop the stupid language discussion, this thread is about the tournament.

Really enjoyed watching hero drop heavy style
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