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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
September 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#3241
365/7/24

now I've never seen it written like that
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
September 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#3242
On September 17 2011 23:59 Grettin wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:57 Raimu wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Didn't you see him floating something like 4k minerals?


Didn't you see how fast he used half of the minerals when he had the chance?


Don't even try it. People don't know how zerg macro works and they like to talk about that.
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
September 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#3243
"what is starcraft?" on http://www.meristation.com/e3/dreamhack.html now
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
gammAwolfa
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland213 Posts
September 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#3244
On September 17 2011 23:59 emc wrote:
who is this blonde guy



one of the best cs 1.6 players cArn
dota2 - imiceice ~
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3245
On September 17 2011 23:59 emc wrote:
who is this blonde guy

Carn, One of the very best Counter Strike pro's.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3246
On September 17 2011 23:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
:D


Hahaha, great pickup, I still cant believe that multitasking so cool, lets hope we have another monster player!
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3247
On September 18 2011 00:00 MrCon wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:56 niteReloaded wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:53 MrCon wrote:
TL had really some sick nose to pick up hero. I know they had huk and jinro inside the house to notice him, but still, they picked him up right as he exploded in the scene (or he exploded in the scene because they picked him up).
I mean, his korean TLPD was fucking awful, and now his int TLPD is bonjwa-like (not that he is one, please don't make a 20 pages debate because I used that word) with all matchups over 70%.

If you're talking about exploding in foreign scene, then that's what'll happen if you take any solid Korean and put him in USA or Europe.

I know, but we don't see MC or any other korean protoss play PvZ that way (actually, he's the only one with some european protoss that can win PvZ atm)
It's not only that he's good, it's that he's better than a lot of koreans.


JYP plays a similiar style.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3248
On September 18 2011 00:00 Crowned wrote:
emps > naniwa


you mean Nukes > Naniwa? Right?
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3249
On September 17 2011 23:59 mordk wrote:
I think Idra really has problems with his unit control and multitasking right now. Basically, when it was battles on a single front, Idra was ahead all the time, he chose his battles well. But when HerO started using warp prisms for multi pronged harass, Idra crumbled very importantly.

It seemed like he just wasn't watching enough places when required, he lost his 4th to zealot pushes twice and got his 5th delayed horribly, and by the time HerO pushed through the main Idra's forces had already taken massive damage from all the harass. He lost a whole lot of roaches to zealots... zealots aren't supposed to kill roaches.


I find it really strange or a letdown that Idra is having problems with multitasking, considering his profuse practice in Korea as a SC:BW Terran. I guess those days are passed. Although, I still think Idra has really great multitasking ability. I recall watching him vs. MVP on stream a few months ago (non-tournament) and his multitasking was really, really good. I think his mind is somewhere else, at the moment.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3250
On September 18 2011 00:00 Elem wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:59 Binabik wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:57 Roggay wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Actually they are right, there is no excuse for having that much mineral.
You can always replace those drones (and it is even easier with macro hatchs).

He only needs 3 Spines +1 Spore and 1 OverLord spotting around each base and everything's fine.
8 upgraded chargelots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 spines. That's how much they own spines.



but the 3 spines would be enough to buy time for any zerg to react in time...
...
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3251
On September 17 2011 23:59 Binabik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:57 Roggay wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Actually they are right, there is no excuse for having that much mineral.
You can always replace those drones (and it is even easier with macro hatchs).

He only needs 3 Spines +1 Spore and 1 OverLord spotting around each base and everything's fine.
Three spines do nothing against 6+ zealots, and 1 spore dies before spines can kill 3+ dt's. What made herO's play so strong was his positioning and army movement while harassing, not to mention expanding while he does all of this. 6 zealots in the main, 2 dt's at the 5th, collusi and stalker in the main after idra goes to main and defends the 6 zealots and snipes the greater spire. Just constant great play from Hero
SlayerS Fighting!
Kryt0s
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany209 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3252
HerO is just an Epic player... But too bad, that HuK got knocked out so early on...
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3253
On September 17 2011 23:59 BlitzerSC wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:56 noBode wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.

Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?


You do realize that while European languages are relatively similar to each other. They are very different from Asian language, right? It's much easier for Koreans to learn languages like Japanese, or Chinese too.


Yeah, sure. Italian and German are very similar... -.-"


hahah so hilarious ^^
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#3254
On September 18 2011 00:00 hugman wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:58 Olinim wrote:
People acting like beating Idra in a PvZ is the end of protoss troubles lol. Sick play from hero but would he beat nestea or losira? Doubt it :/. Good warp prism play though.

He took 3 maps off DRG

So? Losira and nestea outclass DRG in ZvP.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3255
On September 18 2011 00:00 WindOw wrote:
Hm i know "no stream whine/complains" but --- It's buffering 24/7 here, nothings happening, anyone got the same problem?


TwitchTV seems to have a big problem. Watch the stream on Aftonbladet--it's only 1kr for PLUS the first month, and obviously you don't have to keep paying if you don't want to.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
[Tribes]
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada61 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3256
EG DOWNNNNNNNNNN
wdup
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3257
noooo I can't believe I missed Thorzaine vs HuK
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3258
finally a protoss who plays pvz like terrans play tvz!
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3259
On September 17 2011 23:58 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:54 Jtom wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:53 tomatriedes wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:51 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:50 Elroi wrote:
Why does the commentator say that Idra is playing extremely well all the time when he gets outplayed?


Because he loves idra amongst other reasons


Yeah Total Biscuit sounds like a complete Idra fanboy.

TB hates IdrA,


Dislike and hate are two different things, just saying.


Sorry, I was referring to Apollo. TB wants to be impartial and not make calls on fights
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#3260
I am so tired of Naniwa losing. I really hope he takes this
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
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