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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3201
Stephano is the future of foreign zergs IMO. Guy is way better mechanically and strategically than Idra.
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3202
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Erm.. he was banking 6k minerals at one point, he could afford it easily. Also, even 5 spines at every base would have helped him immensely, buying time to defend / outright denying the zealotpressure.

He could however not afford losing bases and tech left and right to prism-harass.
derp
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3203
On September 17 2011 23:57 Raimu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Didn't you see him floating something like 4k minerals?


Didn't you see how fast he used half of the minerals when he had the chance?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Binabik
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany686 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3204
On September 17 2011 23:57 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Actually they are right, there is no excuse for having that much mineral.
You can always replace those drones (and it is even easier with macro hatchs).

He only needs 3 Spines +1 Spore and 1 OverLord spotting around each base and everything's fine.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3205
On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.

Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?


well if you're in front of a huge crowd speaking in a foreign language, you dont really speak much, would it be comfortable for you? lets say you participate in this dreamhack and they wanted an interview in spanish with you, would you rather have a danish/spanish translator or do it in spanish.

Also you can't really compare you knowing so many languages with koreans not knowing them. Btw most koreans know a lot of english and are way more gosu writing english than us non native english speakers. So I think theres a difference in knowing and speaking :D

And it's still sc2, so korea<->foreigners, nobody really cares if they speak english or not.


gogo hero, gogo naniwa
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3206
who is this blonde guy
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3207
I think Idra really has problems with his unit control and multitasking right now. Basically, when it was battles on a single front, Idra was ahead all the time, he chose his battles well. But when HerO started using warp prisms for multi pronged harass, Idra crumbled very importantly.

It seemed like he just wasn't watching enough places when required, he lost his 4th to zealot pushes twice and got his 5th delayed horribly, and by the time HerO pushed through the main Idra's forces had already taken massive damage from all the harass. He lost a whole lot of roaches to zealots... zealots aren't supposed to kill roaches.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3208
On September 17 2011 23:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
:D

No effort posts such as +1's, quotes without adding to them and general 'hahaha' etc posts

":D" < do you know how many muscles it takes just to make a SMILE? and from Nazgul?
So :D was put with very very much effort
BertiliO
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden134 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3209
lol a German with team Canada Hockey jersey on the swedish stream! Awesome
Dev11
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia152 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3210
On September 17 2011 23:57 Designakrobat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:54 Dev11 wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


my understanding is that most of them can speak some english but they wont speak it because they think its bad (And maybe it is) so they dont do it

thats what i like about mc for example. he has the balls to at least try to do his best in speaking a foreign language


Yeah

MC is so ballsy in general though..
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3211
On September 17 2011 23:58 Automata wrote:
Can anyone give me a score check on thorzain vs huk? I missed that series.


2-1 T-Zain.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:59:50
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3212
HEEEEEERRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <3 <3 <3
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3213
On September 17 2011 23:58 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
:D

I would report you for that but it seems as if you're immune ^_^


There was actually a discussion about that LOL
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:00:34
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3214
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..


dude you need to micro a single target spell with a slow ass tier 3 unit. a few infestors can kill 15 stalkers in like 10 sec with them unable to retaliate. so not sure what your point is. i guess it is "idra got spanked wtf blasphemy"
proofy
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:08:38
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3215
mod edit: wtf spoilers.

User was warned for this post
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3216
On September 17 2011 23:56 noBode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.

Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?


You do realize that while European languages are relatively similar to each other. They are very different from Asian language, right? It's much easier for Koreans to learn languages like Japanese, or Chinese too.


Yeah, sure. Italian and German are very similar... -.-"
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3217
On September 17 2011 23:54 RmoteCntrld wrote:
I wonder if IdrA will realize that everyone in the SC world is just laughing at him now. It's sad how far hes fallen since MC demolished him. He needs to realize that hes not losing because Protoss is imba. He's losing cause his game has just gone to shit sure he can still macro but everything else is terrible now.


Nice generalization there. I doubt many would laugh at Idra for that series against Hero. Hero was just nuts that game.

Idra just needs to get back to Korea and practice properly. Travelling for hours to see Deadmau5 and playing against Incontrol (who has other committments than playing) for ZvP is not good practice. NA ladder is also trash for practice expecially against tight play like the Korean's
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3218
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..

Idra had 5K minerals.

Solution:
1. make 2 extra hatches
2. make several spines at every base
3. rebuild the mining drones (without suffering larva deficits due to extra hatches from point 1.)
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3219
On September 17 2011 23:56 kurrysauce wrote:
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..


Why not? He was banking so much minerals anyway. The amount of minerals Hero spent on Zealots to take out Idra's bases would've been more than the minerals it would take to make spines.
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#3220
On September 17 2011 23:54 RmoteCntrld wrote:
I wonder if IdrA will realize that everyone in the SC world is just laughing at him now. It's sad how far hes fallen since MC demolished him. He needs to realize that hes not losing because Protoss is imba. He's losing cause his game has just gone to shit sure he can still macro but everything else is terrible now.


Why would you laugh at someone that lost to a better player? Loosing to someone better doesnt make you a bad player. Would guess that alot of the pros would loose 2-0 agaist that level of play from HerO.

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