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On September 08 2011 20:18 bbQ4Aiur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:On September 08 2011 20:08 scsnow wrote:On September 08 2011 20:08 Gary Oak wrote:On September 08 2011 20:06 MCMXVI wrote:On September 08 2011 20:04 Gary Oak wrote:On September 08 2011 20:00 Krossfire wrote:On September 08 2011 19:58 ZergBonjwa wrote: I love how 1 emp can do like 5000 shield damage. should be capped perhaps.... Or Storm should instantly deal its damage like EMP does (EMP actually does more damage to Protoss than a Psi Storm does), and/or Templar should have the same range as Ghost abilities. I can buy the late game of a matchup being a "caster war", but being at -1 range is pretty silly if you think of it that way. And maybe have Storm deal more than 50% of what it did in BW. Agree! Ghost beats Templar in every conceivable way. Oh, I forgot, Ghosts cost less gas than Templar and are quicker to tech to than Templar. They have built in snipe and emp and for upgrade you can get cloack...  And EMP outranges storm and feeback And also ghost can attack units without casting spells , unlike HT and infestors That's just a stupid thing to point out. HTs can warp into archons if they have no energy and they're quicker to produce. They're not the same units.
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On September 08 2011 20:23 zYwi3c wrote: Ok, so now...
Teeja needs to win all his matches and be 4-0 in his group. MKP needs to win with JYP, JYP needs to win with Tester and we will have 3x tie breaker.
MKP 2-2 JYP 2-2 Tester 2-2
haha, just like yesterday!
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On September 08 2011 20:21 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:20 cyclone25 wrote: Shut up moletrap ... he couldn't have won the game with that baneling bust ... Moletrap is like Bronze league and makes fun of Violet? Calm the fuck down lol.
Lol, you're the one who needs to calm down. What's your problem? Moletrap was making fun of Violet "teaching" him how to right click and stuff. ViOlet did the right decision by retreating there.
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If Tester beats TaeJa,Mkp beats Jyp, Violet beats TaeJa and Jyp beats Tester,we restart once again!
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On September 08 2011 20:23 Biane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:22 MCMXVI wrote:On September 08 2011 20:16 demonik187 wrote: EMP in it's current state is a joke. It's retardedly OP and everyone knows it. The fact that so many terrans try to justify it is just proof that it's a crutch for them in TVP. It super easy to hit with and they can do so much damage instantly to a protoss army. Perfectly blanketed storms don't do that much damage and you can move out of it. Try to move out of 5 EMPs instantly hitting your well spread out army... Try to feedback one of the 5 ghosts without getting sniped/emp'd first. I'm sorry, I've held my tongue for so long, but shit is ridiculous man. If you can't see that then you are seriously delusional. QFT! I've been saying this for the past months now. Its ridiculous how strong ghosts and EMPs are in contrast to templars. And on top of it, they can even research cloak to make them even more powerful compared to templars and infestors. Maybe you should replace david kim... Maybe you can enlighten me on how EMP is equal or worse than feedback and/or storm?
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On September 08 2011 20:23 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:22 MCMXVI wrote:On September 08 2011 20:16 demonik187 wrote: EMP in it's current state is a joke. It's retardedly OP and everyone knows it. The fact that so many terrans try to justify it is just proof that it's a crutch for them in TVP. It super easy to hit with and they can do so much damage instantly to a protoss army. Perfectly blanketed storms don't do that much damage and you can move out of it. Try to move out of 5 EMPs instantly hitting your well spread out army... Try to feedback one of the 5 ghosts without getting sniped/emp'd first. I'm sorry, I've held my tongue for so long, but shit is ridiculous man. If you can't see that then you are seriously delusional. QFT! I've been saying this for the past months now. Its ridiculous how strong ghosts and EMPs are in contrast to templars. And on top of it, they can even research cloak to make them even more powerful compared to templars and infestors. lol leave infestors out of it. I'm a zerg and I'll honestly tell you Infestors are the single strongest unit in this game. Research burrow and they pretty much become Rambo.
Its always pretty refreshing to see players (of that race) being unbiased and admitting things that are strong, props for that =)
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how come the stream is so quiet?
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On September 08 2011 20:24 Zanno wrote: i agree
i think the problem isn't that ghosts are too powerful, its that templar are too weak
mvp vs july isn't really indicative of ghosts being overpowered in tvz, july could have remaxed on zerglings and then snipe loses a lot of cost effectiveness Templars doesn't have much to do with a ZvT discussion.
I 100% agree that MvP vs July doesn't prove anything really - in that the better player overall (MvP) won, and that well well deserved.
Not arguing that it's insanely imbalanced, it requires the terran to get into a position which he shouldn't be allowed to get to (too many bases, too much gas income).
But the composition is quite insane, in that it makes all higher tech zerg tech useless, and you end up only needing tier 2+3 for upgrades.
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no 3 way tie please... i will be heartbroken... MKP or JYP...
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On September 08 2011 20:26 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:21 Huragius wrote:On September 08 2011 20:20 cyclone25 wrote: Shut up moletrap ... he couldn't have won the game with that baneling bust ... Moletrap is like Bronze league and makes fun of Violet? Calm the fuck down lol. Lol, you're the one who needs to calm down. What's your problem? Moletrap was making fun of Violet "teaching" him how to right click and stuff. ViOlet did the right decision by retreating there.
They're in the business of giving opinions and analysis about the play, they're not paid to say "Well I'm bronze so I can't really comment.". If you wanna find fault in somebody, don't find it in Moletrap for not knowing this shit, find it in GOM for employing him(As much as I don't like moletrap's casting).
Edit: In fact, Wolf lead off with the comments on Violet's decision, and Moletrap was right in being a responsive co-caster, something he usually fails at.
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On September 08 2011 20:27 Zealot Lord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:23 Ysellian wrote:On September 08 2011 20:22 MCMXVI wrote:On September 08 2011 20:16 demonik187 wrote: EMP in it's current state is a joke. It's retardedly OP and everyone knows it. The fact that so many terrans try to justify it is just proof that it's a crutch for them in TVP. It super easy to hit with and they can do so much damage instantly to a protoss army. Perfectly blanketed storms don't do that much damage and you can move out of it. Try to move out of 5 EMPs instantly hitting your well spread out army... Try to feedback one of the 5 ghosts without getting sniped/emp'd first. I'm sorry, I've held my tongue for so long, but shit is ridiculous man. If you can't see that then you are seriously delusional. QFT! I've been saying this for the past months now. Its ridiculous how strong ghosts and EMPs are in contrast to templars. And on top of it, they can even research cloak to make them even more powerful compared to templars and infestors. lol leave infestors out of it. I'm a zerg and I'll honestly tell you Infestors are the single strongest unit in this game. Research burrow and they pretty much become Rambo. Its always pretty refreshing to see players (of that race) being unbiased and admitting things that are strong, props for that =) Strongest unit in the game is marine.
Second strongest might be infestor, I wouldn't disagree there.
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So Taeja 4-0 and Trickster, JYP and MKP at 2-2 with Violet 0-4...
*hopes*
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On September 08 2011 20:24 Worldatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:23 Demonace34 wrote:On September 08 2011 20:20 Worldatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 20:18 Ssnik wrote: Is it just me or are those commentators copying Artosis' commenting style 100%? I notice similarities between Wolf and Artosis, but the word copying is just terrible. People that say bands copy bands and movies copy movies, just the worst. I'd just say they have similar casting styles. Yeah I agree, they have similar styles probably because they talk about casting together as well. I think I would take it as a compliment if someone said I was "copying" Artosis. Who the hell is better at analytical casting? Awesome name by the way, such a depressing song. Thanks : ] The depressing Modest Mouse is definitely the greatest, maybe that makes me a downer.
Custom Concern, son. Now there's a depressing MM song.
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gas first from Tester o_O
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On September 08 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:24 Worldatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 20:23 Demonace34 wrote:On September 08 2011 20:20 Worldatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 20:18 Ssnik wrote: Is it just me or are those commentators copying Artosis' commenting style 100%? I notice similarities between Wolf and Artosis, but the word copying is just terrible. People that say bands copy bands and movies copy movies, just the worst. I'd just say they have similar casting styles. Yeah I agree, they have similar styles probably because they talk about casting together as well. I think I would take it as a compliment if someone said I was "copying" Artosis. Who the hell is better at analytical casting? Awesome name by the way, such a depressing song. Thanks : ] The depressing Modest Mouse is definitely the greatest, maybe that makes me a downer. Custom Concern, son. Now there's a depressing MM song.
Yeah and his voice is what makes all his sad songs that much more depressing.
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On September 08 2011 20:27 MCMXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 20:23 Biane wrote:On September 08 2011 20:22 MCMXVI wrote:On September 08 2011 20:16 demonik187 wrote: EMP in it's current state is a joke. It's retardedly OP and everyone knows it. The fact that so many terrans try to justify it is just proof that it's a crutch for them in TVP. It super easy to hit with and they can do so much damage instantly to a protoss army. Perfectly blanketed storms don't do that much damage and you can move out of it. Try to move out of 5 EMPs instantly hitting your well spread out army... Try to feedback one of the 5 ghosts without getting sniped/emp'd first. I'm sorry, I've held my tongue for so long, but shit is ridiculous man. If you can't see that then you are seriously delusional. QFT! I've been saying this for the past months now. Its ridiculous how strong ghosts and EMPs are in contrast to templars. And on top of it, they can even research cloak to make them even more powerful compared to templars and infestors. Maybe you should replace david kim... Maybe you can enlighten me on how EMP is equal or worse than feedback and/or storm?
maybe you can stop balling your eyes out in a live report thread?
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