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Jaedong4thOSL
United States487 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:50 Heavenly wrote: Cool qualifications, MC is two time GSL champion and the highest earning player in the world. He has not been the highest earning player for a long time. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1979_Jjakji/games | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:50 Jinsho wrote: yo anyone wants this week's lottery numbers? Wow, you're like some kind of genius. Please keep quoting yourself every time you guess correctly, everyone in the LR definitely cares. On September 07 2011 18:51 Jaedong4thOSL wrote: He has not been the highest earning player for a long time. Um no, he's still the highest earning and has been pretty much since winning his second GSL. | ||
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:50 Asha` wrote: Should have watched Curious vs Lucky =) ZvZ is right up there with TvT as my favourite mirror nowadays. code a quals? | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:51 cyclone25 wrote: Not code S level? What is Moletrap talking about ... http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1979_Jjakji/games Well Moletrap also wanted to say Check's bad nowadays, and while that might have been true a couple of months back, he's really bounced back well lately with good play in the GSL/GSTL/IPL qualifiers etc. Nah that GSTL game, infestors to counter broods etc. Code A qualies game was superstar vs sleep iirc? both on antiga though, that map's actually done pretty well for itself. | ||
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:51 cyclone25 wrote: Not code S level? What is Moletrap talking about ... http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1979_Jjakji/games lol so happy i muted half an hour ago  go jjakji show us what you got | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:49 Grampz wrote: so if you know all about protoss why aren't you a gsl champion if all the professional coaches know so much about sports why aren't they champions? dum ass logic | ||
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Ventor
United States336 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote: theres nothing wrong with 2basing against a fast 3rd zerg, but MC did it highly wrong 1) mc made too many pheonix. really its only valuable if someone is holding a gun to the zergs head and telling that zerg to make mutalisks. if the zerg doesnt make mutas over investing into phoenix is bad 2) stargate openings are fine. make 1, maybe 2 void rays, dont produce extra pheonix unless you scout zero spores. scout zero spores = make more pheonix to murder queens. scout some spores = STOP MAKING ANY MORE PHEONIX. go into collossi. mc made too many pheonix. 3) if you ARE doing the 2base thing, you mass collossi, period. mc got mass zealots (bad), mc tried to get some archons (bad waste of 900 gas). 4) when you are doing that 2base thing you gotta mass the fukk out of stalkers and collossi, with some zealots. mc wasted like 1400 gas in getting charge+templars+archons 5) by massing collossi after you have a few you are strong enough to take/hold your third nueral parasite isnt that great of a counter if you hide behind your cannons 6) if you do it right, you take your third at around a time where your main is 65% mined out. now you put 27 drone saturation at your 2 expansions (54 probes) plus put 22 at your main (66 probes). that is perfect saturation for 3base toss 7) your main shouldnt dry up for another few minutes. these few minutes is your time to take the fourth. nueral parasite cannot beat your collossi army if you play defensive and hide collossi behind your cannons 8) after you are on 3 bases, THAT is when you get some templar. with some storms and feedback, your army can move around the map and contest infestors/NP. at this point the protoss now has map control 9) if you sit/camp/mass on 2 bases and use the collossi strength to take your third, by 17 minutes you should be around 200food. with your third you wanna get up to 66 probes. now you have 3 bases, 66 probes, 200food. the zerg may have 6bases , but has cannot make 100 drones to mine all those bases because his army will be too weak. so the zerg at this point is limited by his food cap so he shouldnt make more than 80-90 drones or he is dumb 10) regardless, you now have 200food. if the zerg attacks you then you have defenders advantage and a larger food army because the zerg has 25 extra supply in his drones. with mass collossi you should vaporize his ground army and mass blink stalkers deal with air 11) at this point in the game it should be around 20 minutes. theres no way in hell the zerg can have much brood lords at this point as long as your scouting and reacting properly. ugh that was a long write up. long story short MC played that very badly. theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters. All hail the new oGs head coach. Go get 'em champ! Jokes aside, don't waste your time trying to correct korean pros, they play this game for a living (literally) and understand what they did wrong and you do not. | ||
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Skydancer
Italy249 Posts
THIS time is not a matter of balance, or map or anything else... simply MC play bad under all point of view... Hope he could show some nice game, i know he can. And i hope he stop to be so safe and predictable in every game he play... he's becoming soo standard... | ||
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priste
United States171 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:50 sleepingdog wrote: I want to see carrier vs carrier PvP....but some things are just not gonna happen in life  Maybe one day there will be: GSL- Monobattles | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
Curious vs Lucky was GSTL ST vs FXO Korea, 2nd match. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:51 roymarthyup wrote: high level players can make mistakes. im just saying MC played badly. dont like the balance whine people say every time a player loses. im toss and ill say i dont think the game showed any imbalances I don't know if you've seen many ZvP's lately, but you can't just turtle and take your third, zerg's get aggressive... thats exactly what losira was waiting for, also check out Coca's games from MLG, every single game against protosss except G2 against HuK is him killing the protoss when they try take their 3rd. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:53 Serelitz wrote: Curious vs Lucky was GSTL ST vs FXO Korea, 2nd match. LOL ofc, yeah that match was awesome | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:53 priste wrote: Maybe one day there will be: GSL- Monobattles GSL Kulas Extreme | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:49 priste wrote: That's the only thing I don't like about ZvZ. We never get to see many super long games where both players have tier 3 tech. I want to see dozens of Ultras hugging each other. ;( That would get old very, very fast. Lings and blings are what make ZvZ exciting. | ||
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