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On August 30 2011 20:49 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:44 SilverforceX wrote:On August 30 2011 20:21 jkang wrote:
People, leaving like 3 stalkers at your base instead of your main army wont make your army like half times weaker. just leave them to stop drops. If ur gonna leave stalkers to defend against drops, just buy a few canons. Really its more cost effective, and the stalkers can be in the army in case they engage. By late game, the cost of a few canons is not much to the cost of losing an expo like that. Cannons are great at reducing the places where a Terran can drop, but they are garbage at defending them. All they do is delay the drop by maybe a second before disappearing. Genius needs to go MC style, 3 Observers, and a few Zealots in the mineral line (NOT on hold position) Genius is playing so poorly today, first game was great but now he is just doing the most random shit :|
a few zealots + a DT are very good at deterring drops
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I can't see how genius can pull a win, he is playing quite sloppy right now
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On August 30 2011 20:45 Xacalite wrote:
dropships seem to trigger a glitch in the matrix of Genuis brain. Seeing that drop management i dont see any way for genius to win.
Yeah, I don't get why he can't just have two groups of Stalkers. He seems to think his only option is putting all of his Stalkers in one base and hoping it gets dropped, then sending the entire rest of his army to deal with the rest of the drops.
I really hope he figures this out in the next five minutes. I'm tired of TvT  .
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come on TOP, don't screw my liquibet like MKP...
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On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:Game Four on Shipyard In the top left is  Top While in bottom left is  Genius 1:40Barracks / Gateway in production 2:10Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top
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Factory and ebay for top
Genius is getting a second observer
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that was a sexy obs snipe
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On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC) Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player. But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting!
Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.
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On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:Game Four on Shipyard In the top left is Top While in bottom left is Genius 1:40Barracks / Gateway in production 2:10Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer
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Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP
forge for genius
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Cool story bro wolf is making up stories guys magical yen coins popping up and disappearing !?~? lol
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On August 30 2011 20:50 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC) Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player. But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting! Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.
Which lo and behold, wins games against the 1/1/1 build that virtually every Terran has been using to advance in the GSL.
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On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:Game Four on Shipyard In the top left is Top While in bottom left is Genius 1:40Barracks / Gateway in production 2:10Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer 8:00
Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP forge for genius
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Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base
Genius is getting a twilight council
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Oh no, I see many many gates with one pylon powering them
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On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:Game Four on Shipyard In the top left is Top While in bottom left is Genius 1:40Barracks / Gateway in production 2:10Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer 8:00
Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP forge for genius 8:30Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base Genius is getting a twilight council
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Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius
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Genius is a fascinating player. He can survive 1-1-1, has pretty good macro and is good with upgrades too and he can really put the pressure on terrans. BUT WTF. he cant defend drops and hates using templar even though hes going against marine heavy compositions.
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On August 30 2011 20:50 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:45 Xacalite wrote:
dropships seem to trigger a glitch in the matrix of Genuis brain. Seeing that drop management i dont see any way for genius to win. Yeah, I don't get why he can't just have two groups of Stalkers. He seems to think his only option is putting all of his Stalkers in one base and hoping it gets dropped, then sending the entire rest of his army to deal with the rest of the drops. I really hope he figures this out in the next five minutes. I'm tired of TvT .
If you want to use Stalkers then you need Observers patrolling around the area, otherwise the Terran just drops away from them, stims in and kills them, then kills the probes. A better way to deal with them is to leave behind Zealots then warp-in Stalkers, they take much more punishment and you don't waste as many resources when they die
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On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
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Barracks / Gateway in production 2:10Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer 8:00
Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP forge for genius 8:30Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base Genius is getting a twilight council 9:30Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius
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Ghost academy starting for Top
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Genius denying drops well this game
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On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
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Gas on the way for genius 2:40Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer 8:00
Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP forge for genius 8:30Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base Genius is getting a twilight council 9:30Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius 10:30Ghost academy starting for Top
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Robo bay and charge for Genius
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On August 30 2011 20:53 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
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Orbital / core starting 4:30Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion 5:30Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo 6:10Stim starting for Top 7:00Factory and ebay for top Genius is getting a second observer 8:00
Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP forge for genius 8:30Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base Genius is getting a twilight council 9:30Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius 10:30Ghost academy starting for Top 11:00Robo bay and charge for Genius
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Blink from genius kills a drop
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On August 30 2011 20:50 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC) Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player. But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting! Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.
ye... because every terran does 1/1/1 allin or pretends to do it. imo you cant blame genius for that.
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