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Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1221
On August 30 2011 20:49 Dommk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:44 SilverforceX wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:21 jkang wrote:
People, leaving like 3 stalkers at your base instead of your main army wont make your army like half times weaker. just leave them to stop drops.


If ur gonna leave stalkers to defend against drops, just buy a few canons. Really its more cost effective, and the stalkers can be in the army in case they engage. By late game, the cost of a few canons is not much to the cost of losing an expo like that.


Cannons are great at reducing the places where a Terran can drop, but they are garbage at defending them. All they do is delay the drop by maybe a second before disappearing.

Genius needs to go MC style, 3 Observers, and a few Zealots in the mineral line (NOT on hold position)

Genius is playing so poorly today, first game was great but now he is just doing the most random shit :|


a few zealots + a DT are very good at deterring drops
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12907 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1222
I can't see how genius can pull a win, he is playing quite sloppy right now
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2598 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1223
On August 30 2011 20:45 Xacalite wrote:
dropships seem to trigger a glitch in the matrix of Genuis brain. Seeing that drop management i dont see any way for genius to win.

Yeah, I don't get why he can't just have two groups of Stalkers. He seems to think his only option is putting all of his Stalkers in one base and hoping it gets dropped, then sending the entire rest of his army to deal with the rest of the drops.

I really hope he figures this out in the next five minutes. I'm tired of TvT .
The frumious Bandersnatch
Quartal
Profile Joined April 2011
140 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1224
come on TOP, don't screw my liquibet like MKP...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1225
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
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Game Four on Shipyard

In the top left is Top

While in bottom left is Genius


1:40

Barracks / Gateway in production


2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1226
that was a sexy obs snipe
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
August 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#1227
On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC)


Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player.

But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting!


Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#1228
On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Four on Shipyard

In the top left is Top

While in bottom left is Genius


1:40

Barracks / Gateway in production


2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
August 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#1229
Cool story bro wolf is making up stories guys magical yen coins popping up and disappearing !?~? lol
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
August 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#1230
On August 30 2011 20:50 Sea_Food wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC)


Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player.

But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting!


Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.


Which lo and behold, wins games against the 1/1/1 build that virtually every Terran has been using to advance in the GSL.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:51 GMT
#1231
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Four on Shipyard

In the top left is Top

While in bottom left is Genius


1:40

Barracks / Gateway in production


2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius


8:30

Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base

Genius is getting a twilight council
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1232
Oh no, I see many many gates with one pylon powering them
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1233
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Four on Shipyard

In the top left is Top

While in bottom left is Genius


1:40

Barracks / Gateway in production


2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius


8:30

Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base

Genius is getting a twilight council


9:30

Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1234
Genius is a fascinating player. He can survive 1-1-1, has pretty good macro and is good with upgrades too and he can really put the pressure on terrans. BUT WTF. he cant defend drops and hates using templar even though hes going against marine heavy compositions.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1235
On August 30 2011 20:50 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 20:45 Xacalite wrote:
dropships seem to trigger a glitch in the matrix of Genuis brain. Seeing that drop management i dont see any way for genius to win.

Yeah, I don't get why he can't just have two groups of Stalkers. He seems to think his only option is putting all of his Stalkers in one base and hoping it gets dropped, then sending the entire rest of his army to deal with the rest of the drops.

I really hope he figures this out in the next five minutes. I'm tired of TvT .


If you want to use Stalkers then you need Observers patrolling around the area, otherwise the Terran just drops away from them, stims in and kills them, then kills the probes. A better way to deal with them is to leave behind Zealots then warp-in Stalkers, they take much more punishment and you don't waste as many resources when they die
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1236
On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

1:40

Barracks / Gateway in production


2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius


8:30

Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base

Genius is getting a twilight council


9:30

Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius


10:30

Ghost academy starting for Top
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
August 30 2011 11:52 GMT
#1237
Genius denying drops well this game
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#1238
On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:10

Gas on the way for genius


2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius


8:30

Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base

Genius is getting a twilight council


9:30

Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius


10:30

Ghost academy starting for Top


11:00

Robo bay and charge for Genius
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#1239
On August 30 2011 20:53 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:51 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:50 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:40

Orbital / core starting


4:30

Expansion on the way for Top with two more barracks in production

Warp gate for Genius along with his own expansion


5:30

Genius going up to three gates while starting his robo


6:10

Stim starting for Top


7:00

Factory and ebay for top

Genius is getting a second observer


8:00

Starport and +1 bio weapons for TOP

forge for genius


8:30

Reactored medivacs in production for top while starting his third base

Genius is getting a twilight council


9:30

Three more gates, blink and +1 for Genius


10:30

Ghost academy starting for Top


11:00

Robo bay and charge for Genius


11:40

Blink from genius kills a drop
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
August 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#1240
On August 30 2011 20:50 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 20:49 Mobius_1 wrote:
On August 30 2011 20:44 poorcloud wrote:
Genius just seems like a mediocre player. Average control, poor macro but does lots of timing attacks.
Why do all the protosses get in only based on timing attacks? (Other than puzzle/MC)


Well you don't get to RO8 by being crap (unless you are Inca in which case you go all the way to the finals), but TOP is such a macro beast and drops are so effective it's making Genius look like a Diamond player.

But for the sake of liquibet points, Genius fighting!


Genius got to ro8 with protoss by 1 base void ray every game.


ye... because every terran does 1/1/1 allin or pretends to do it. imo you cant blame genius for that.
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