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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 28 2011 05:00 GMT
#10601
On August 28 2011 13:41 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

It mmakes perfect sense. Both players are 4-1. Drg beat select. Drg gets first. Head to head matters more than individual games.


So its okay if you lose more than someone else so long as you've beaten him before?

Losing an individual game doesn't fucking matter. All that matters is series record.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
August 28 2011 05:00 GMT
#10602
whos ttn114
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 28 2011 05:01 GMT
#10603
On August 28 2011 13:51 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 13:49 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:45 krews wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:41 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

It mmakes perfect sense. Both players are 4-1. Drg beat select. Drg gets first. Head to head matters more than individual games.


So its okay if you lose more than someone else so long as you've beaten him before?


yes? how does that not make sense to people? head to head has always been the first tiebreaker for any game tourney


It does make sense. Except for the part where the player who does worse in the tournament is rewarded instead of the guy who did better in the tournament.

Just thought performance was rewarded is all. I guess MLG doesn't care for that too much.


No MLG cares, which is why DRG got first because they both went 4-1, but DRG won h2h. It's the right system to use and used by pretty much most of the sports in the world.

It would be like if Lakers won season series against San Antonio 3-1, but spurs blew out the clippers by more to give them a better point differential, so spurs get seeded ahead of the lakers. Wouldn't make any sense.


When you say world, you mean North America...
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
August 28 2011 05:01 GMT
#10604
Wow incontrol pretty lucky with his championship bracket seeding, he might actually retain his pool play position despite not winning a map in pool play (again) just because he was placed against drewbie and now machine...
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 28 2011 05:02 GMT
#10605
On August 28 2011 13:03 Pratoss wrote:
Missed majority of today's series

would anyone mind recommending some series since I really don't have the time to watch them all.



Puma vs Nada was a TvT you don't see every day.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 28 2011 05:02 GMT
#10606
On August 28 2011 14:00 Denizen[9] wrote:
whos ttn114


Orly, some ex-WoW player or something.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 28 2011 05:02 GMT
#10607
On August 28 2011 13:58 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 13:51 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:49 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:45 krews wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:41 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

It mmakes perfect sense. Both players are 4-1. Drg beat select. Drg gets first. Head to head matters more than individual games.


So its okay if you lose more than someone else so long as you've beaten him before?


yes? how does that not make sense to people? head to head has always been the first tiebreaker for any game tourney


It does make sense. Except for the part where the player who does worse in the tournament is rewarded instead of the guy who did better in the tournament.

Just thought performance was rewarded is all. I guess MLG doesn't care for that too much.


No MLG cares, which is why DRG got first because they both went 4-1, but DRG won h2h. It's the right system to use and used by pretty much most of the sports in the world.

It would be like if Lakers won season series against San Antonio 3-1, but spurs blew out the clippers by more to give them a better point differential, so spurs get seeded ahead of the lakers. Wouldn't make any sense.


It's technically like if the lakers beat San Antonio 2-0 best two out of three and proceeded to lose a least a game against every other team while San Antonio beats everyone else 2-0 showing they dominated the tournament much better than the lakers did, but still given the shaft anyway.

But I digress, it's okay that MLG doesn't care. I just wanted to clarify.

And beating san antonio 2-0 shows that la is better than san antonio, which is why they would be seeded higher. Mlg isn't about winning individual games, its about winning series.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#10608
On August 28 2011 14:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 13:03 Pratoss wrote:
Missed majority of today's series

would anyone mind recommending some series since I really don't have the time to watch them all.



Puma vs Nada was a TvT you don't see every day.

That was a sick series. As was kiwi vs puma
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
August 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#10609
On August 28 2011 13:59 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 13:57 Gallimatias wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:45 krews wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:41 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

It mmakes perfect sense. Both players are 4-1. Drg beat select. Drg gets first. Head to head matters more than individual games.


So its okay if you lose more than someone else so long as you've beaten him before?


yes? how does that not make sense to people? head to head has always been the first tiebreaker for any game tourney


No not for any tourney. It is for instance not the first tiebreaker in the worlds biggest tourney, the FIFA World Cup.


It's an American thing. They think because it happens in their tournaments, it happens in EVERY tournament.

It's not the first tiebreaker in most European events.



Stupid Americans, thinking that because head to head matters in other American tournaments, it might matter in THIS AMERICAN TOURNAMENT.

Holy fuck, you can argue it either way, MLG and several other major tournaments go with head to head. Why turn it into a nationalistic argument?
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 28 2011 05:05 GMT
#10610
yeah DRG shouldnt go down because he lost one measely game extra to someone else, after he actually defeated Select. It doesnt make sense.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 28 2011 05:06 GMT
#10611
On August 28 2011 14:04 Harrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 13:59 TheHova wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:57 Gallimatias wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:45 krews wrote:
On August 28 2011 13:41 lorkac wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

It mmakes perfect sense. Both players are 4-1. Drg beat select. Drg gets first. Head to head matters more than individual games.


So its okay if you lose more than someone else so long as you've beaten him before?


yes? how does that not make sense to people? head to head has always been the first tiebreaker for any game tourney


No not for any tourney. It is for instance not the first tiebreaker in the worlds biggest tourney, the FIFA World Cup.


It's an American thing. They think because it happens in their tournaments, it happens in EVERY tournament.

It's not the first tiebreaker in most European events.



Stupid Americans, thinking that because head to head matters in other American tournaments, it might matter in THIS AMERICAN TOURNAMENT.

Holy fuck, you can argue it either way, MLG and several other major tournaments go with head to head. Why turn it into a nationalistic argument?


No that's not stupid, if they wanna use that system fair enough. What is stupid though is saying ANY game tourny in the WORLD uses this system when it's an ignorant and incorrect statement.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
August 28 2011 05:08 GMT
#10612
On August 28 2011 14:01 Ryder. wrote:
Wow incontrol pretty lucky with his championship bracket seeding, he might actually retain his pool play position despite not winning a map in pool play (again) just because he was placed against drewbie and now machine...


Yep. MLG system FIGHINGGGGGGGG
CKHound
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
August 28 2011 05:18 GMT
#10613
When it comes to the tiebreaker system, of course head to head is going to be first. Think of it this way. If someone loses all their Bo3's but takes everyone to 3 games, they still have a fairly ok looking record in individual games, but guess what they are seeded lower. This tournement is based on the Bo3's not on how many individual games a person wins
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
August 28 2011 05:20 GMT
#10614
Cultural differences are pretty weird. To me, head to head is an obvious first pick for tiebreaker. Apparently, other countries disagree.

I just feel as if two people are tied, yet one beat the other, that person should get the lead.
WastedGunner
Profile Joined October 2010
23 Posts
August 28 2011 05:22 GMT
#10615
anybody know where i can see the idra-sjow match? google has failed me
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
August 28 2011 05:27 GMT
#10616


New cross platform team Eon looking to pick up some sc2 guys. It's halo team is undefeated, and the CoD teams place very highly.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 28 2011 05:27 GMT
#10617
The brackets have lined up nicely for the koreans where it's possible to get a korean top 8!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Chaoz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States507 Posts
August 28 2011 05:28 GMT
#10618
Why are the vods either low or ultra?
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
August 28 2011 05:28 GMT
#10619
On August 28 2011 14:18 CKHound wrote:
When it comes to the tiebreaker system, of course head to head is going to be first. Think of it this way. If someone loses all their Bo3's but takes everyone to 3 games, they still have a fairly ok looking record in individual games, but guess what they are seeded lower. This tournement is based on the Bo3's not on how many individual games a person wins

Except that what you wrote has nothing to do with a tiebreaker system. If they lose all their series, they're seeded last due to losing all their series, nothing else.
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
August 28 2011 05:28 GMT
#10620
On August 28 2011 14:20 holynorth wrote:
Cultural differences are pretty weird. To me, head to head is an obvious first pick for tiebreaker. Apparently, other countries disagree.

I just feel as if two people are tied, yet one beat the other, that person should get the lead.

But what if it's the guy's best matchup and the other's worst? Shouldn't the guy with the overall better map score be the better player?
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