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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:21:41
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4081
On August 22 2011 02:18 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:16 Clafou wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:15 mordk wrote:
I think it's time to put khaydarin amulet back in the game


Non it's not.

Because one player lose one game versus a terran, Blizzard should bring back the amulet?

Come on, this is getting ridiculous...

when the best protoss in the world is losing to code b terran, its a problem.
you like watching tvt and tvz in the gsl?


Most people will agree that Puma is better than your average code b Terran. Besides it's not like MC has exactly been beasting it in KR lately, who knows where he'll be perceived in a month or two.
illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4082
O_=;;; Toss using more hotkeys, splitting their HTs individually AND hotkeying + microing Zealots in order to beat Terran?

Guess that's just another way of saying, that Toss has to play 3 times better than Terran to be on even level against Bioball+Ghosts.
Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4083
On August 22 2011 02:19 Alvis wrote:
close air position
1-1-1 again?


I hope so, Toss heads will explode.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4084
On August 22 2011 02:19 duckmaster wrote:
am I the only one wondering why MC was floating 3k/2k when he died? I feel like PuMa is just superior in every way, including macro.


err?? no he wasn't.... when he lost that nexus and the looked at the 5th to see no probes he was sitting at like ~300. are you talking about when he was maxed......?
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4085
Haha oh man the QQ in this thread is so fucking horrible i can't even..

Well let's hope MC takes one for more games.
ret * Leenock * DiMAGA * Grubby * FBH
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4086
On August 22 2011 02:18 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:16 Clafou wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:15 mordk wrote:
I think it's time to put khaydarin amulet back in the game


Non it's not.

Because one player lose one game versus a terran, Blizzard should bring back the amulet?

Come on, this is getting ridiculous...

when the best protoss in the world is losing to code b terran, its a problem.
you like watching tvt and tvz in the gsl?

You'd be surprised to find out how many amazing players reside in Code B.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4087
On August 22 2011 02:20 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:19 MoonBear wrote:
Match 3: Metalopolis
(P)oGs.MC 0 vs 2 EG.(T)PuMa

(T)PuMa spawns as Red Terran @3
(P)MC spawns as Blue Protoss @1

2:00
Both players opening with gas.

3:00
Probe sees everything. Gets walled into the base.

4:00
Probe sees fact before it dies.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4088
I don't care for either Terran or Protoss because I hate both races but hopefully today will have Blizz give some nerfs to Terran

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4089
On August 22 2011 02:18 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:16 Clafou wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:15 mordk wrote:
I think it's time to put khaydarin amulet back in the game


Non it's not.

Because one player lose one game versus a terran, Blizzard should bring back the amulet?

Come on, this is getting ridiculous...

when the best protoss in the world is losing to code b terran, its a problem.
you like watching tvt and tvz in the gsl?

Zergs are not doing better than Toss in GSL when you look at numbers, it was even one P more in group stages than Z.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:22:16
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4090
On August 22 2011 02:18 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:15 GDbushido wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 Sindriss wrote:
They should never have nerfed storm dmg compared to bw.

Storm damage is fine, whats ridiculous is that toss has to spend an extra 200/200 to get it, whereas EMP and fungal are free.


dont even start.. then i guess zergs should have speed/range upgrades removed then if that is your logic... god.

Except Zeal speed is 200/200 and colossus range is 200/200, both more expensive than Zerg upgrades. You're not exactly helping your case by making such a blatantly silly point, stuff's not comparable, so pick something that... isn't comparable!
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4091
I wonder if Jinro or TLO would win this, would the whine be the same? -_-
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4092
On August 22 2011 02:19 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:17 Caphe wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:16 koolaid1990 wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:13 shabby wrote:
I wonder how long it will take before protoss does two things.

1. Use more hotkeys and individually split every single high templar. They did it in BW to avoid siege tanks, it's been done, it can be done and should be done.

2. Use another 3 hotkeys for zealots and turn off autocharge, then manually charge key targets for instakills and sick surface area.

There are only so many hotkeys. There are like what, 10 numbers? They have to hotkey Nexus, stargate, robo, stalkers, obs, sentries, collosus, and army. Even then its difficult

Tell that to BW pros. One control group contains only 12 units and you cant TAB. Protoss will ultilize the WP more and more hotkeys are needed to do that.


Actually no. You can bind your own hotkeys, so you have letters, numbers, F keys and so on. And besides, you can rebind hotkeys as you need them. Before a battle you should hotkey your units accordingly. But I think this is wishful thinking and will take many years still. Maybe not until a bigger lot of the BW pros switch.


The problem is that this requirement for using a shitload of hotkeys will not be a requirement for terran, only for toss, ie terran=ezmode
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4093
On August 22 2011 02:13 Lann555 wrote:
What's this stuff about MC dominating Puma up untill the final battle anyway? His blink push didnt do much, they both delayed 4th bases a bit. Game was reasonably even when the big fight happened


yeah, except for, you know, all those drops that did zero damage and got denied by mc, as well has his huge supply lead.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4094
On August 22 2011 02:19 Montana[TK] wrote:
close air

LINE EM UP

1-1-1



ALREADY 2/3 THERE
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4095
Now the spamming has died down a little bit let's understand the real reason MC lost: 1. floating 2k minerals/gas when his forward expansion went down. 2. PvT is a game of tech switches, without any vikings a Colossus switch would have kicked ass.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4096
On August 22 2011 02:21 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:19 duckmaster wrote:
am I the only one wondering why MC was floating 3k/2k when he died? I feel like PuMa is just superior in every way, including macro.


err?? no he wasn't.... when he lost that nexus and the looked at the 5th to see no probes he was sitting at like ~300. are you talking about when he was maxed......?

...eh? what? u no make sense duck
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4097
On August 22 2011 02:21 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:19 MoonBear wrote:
Match 3: Metalopolis
(P)oGs.MC 0 vs 2 EG.(T)PuMa

(T)PuMa spawns as Red Terran @3
(P)MC spawns as Blue Protoss @1

2:00
Both players opening with gas.

3:00
Probe sees everything. Gets walled into the base.

4:00
Probe sees fact before it dies.

4:30
STARGATE OPENING!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
sasobodynamic
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore294 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4098
1/1/1 incoming
BeefEU
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands260 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4099
I hope puma rapes MC now with a 1-1-1 build to collect more protoss whine tears!
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
August 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#4100
Void ray all in
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