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PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4041
The big mistake MC made was not switching into collossus.

IMO opening templar is not viable vs terran. EMP is too devestating.

Opening collossus means that terran has to balance medivac and viking production.

The only reason tosses open templar is that charge and to a lesser extent the weapon/armor upgrades are crucial (or at least thought to be crucial) in PvT.

It's just not feasible to get a twlight council just for charge and then get a robo and get collossus, too big of a window where MMM can just roll the gateway army of toss (due to lack of AOE).
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4042
Warp-prism is such a terrible unit, it is made of paper and hasn't enough shield.
Anytime the terran can stim 10 marines and one shot it, even Zerg queen take it down in a few shot.
What a joke.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4043
Bleh, close meta now, that should make for an anticlimatic last game.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4044
On August 22 2011 02:17 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:16 ThatGuy89 wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:14 Clafou wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:12 koolaid1990 wrote:
Lose CC, lose 2 barracks, lose 3 drops = win?



Micro like a boss, dodge storms like a beast, drop everywhere, destroy the 4th, macro like a god -> Win.


Stop whining guys,

dodge storms?
drop everywhere but do no damagae?
destroy 4th after losing own 4th?
macroingg like a god and being behind in supply?

you watching same game?


Make an educated guess why he was behind in supply please. I'm sure you can figure it out if you think for a second very intensively.

Because MC is better?
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4045
On August 22 2011 02:18 Beyonder wrote:
Well, this is THE 1/1/1 map :D


Bey being cute once again :>
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4046
puma just seems to be way too strong.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4047
On August 22 2011 02:18 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:15 GDbushido wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:09 Sindriss wrote:
They should never have nerfed storm dmg compared to bw.

Storm damage is fine, whats ridiculous is that toss has to spend an extra 200/200 to get it, whereas EMP and fungal are free.


dont even start.. then i guess zergs should have speed/range upgrades removed then if that is your logic... god.

sense

this post makes none
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4048
close air position
1-1-1 again?
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4049
On August 22 2011 02:18 BuZZ123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:17 illu23 wrote:
This is horseshit. Blizzard needs to nerf Terran in TvP. Right now, Toss has to play like 3x better than Terran to be on even levels.

Look at all the most recent TvPs in GSL and especially this tournament. Terran bio is always just like "lolol, I move all over your army lololol" and "rofl, emp is ez, buddy. Ghost so fast and more range than HT? lolol".


Fix this or one day it will be like 75% Terrans in GSL.

Oh wait...

Feedback has longer range than emp? Bronze toss?

... it doesn't.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 21 2011 17:19 GMT
#4050
On August 22 2011 02:18 Jinsho wrote:
Why is this stupid whining tolerated?`There must be at least 20 pages of it since that game.


Its not, but it takes time to get through the mountain of shit.
Love is more fun than hate.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4051
On August 22 2011 02:18 Beyonder wrote:
Well, this is THE 1/1/1 map :D

lol dont jinx it! I want to see more games plx
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4052
Korea grand master is like 75 percent terran and a few zergs or protosses. So even Blizzard knows at the very top level terran dominates for some reason so in tournament finals you would expect that to happen.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4053
On August 22 2011 02:18 hi im new wrote:
mc outpalyed puma in EVERY fucking way.
good thing puma plays terran though.

-_______________-
hoping tournaments afeter next patch will be more watchable



plz shut up. outplayed in every way? like having 0/0 upgrades as toss vs 2/2 terran?
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4054
just wondering
^_____^


Poll: more annoying

normal advertisements (14)
 
78%

social media plugs (4)
 
22%

18 total votes

Your vote: more annoying

(Vote): normal advertisements
(Vote): social media plugs


Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4055
Close air position metalopolis ;> I fear for this series.
It appears I have been chosen.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4056
On August 22 2011 02:17 Steamroller wrote:
Protoss players are biggest whiners ever. Even Zergs did not whine this much back in time when they had a hard time.


Nah the whine was pretty even
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4057
On August 22 2011 02:19 MoonBear wrote:
Match 3: Metalopolis
(P)oGs.MC 0 vs 2 EG.(T)PuMa

(T)PuMa spawns as Red Terran @3
(P)MC spawns as Blue Protoss @1

2:00
Both players opening with gas.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4058
On August 22 2011 02:16 akaname wrote:
the game is obviously NOT completely imbalanced or broken (against Protoss) if a Protoss can make it into the final. not saying it's Ba, just saying it's always possible to win.

You can't really compare race balance when Puma and MC are by far the two best players there.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4059
On August 22 2011 02:17 MrCon wrote:
Protoss is the new zerg, that QQ is out of control.

MC seems behind in the metagame, templars are not the way to go against those terran builds, colossi are. At least makes a robobay and a second robo so during the first fight you can make 2 colo at a time and go "SURPRISE §§§§". Especially when you have 500 stalkers and storm and the vikings will die instantly if Puma makes some.
MC still good but is not at the avant-guarde anymore it seems.


Agreed.

But a french guy speaking english and dropping mispelled french in there was funny ;D
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
August 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#4060
refinery, close positions, wall-in

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