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tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
August 20 2011 07:56 GMT
#181
Having a real hard time locating VODs for this event. Are they requiring that you pay for subscription in order to view them?
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#182
On August 20 2011 16:44 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 16:39 Flowjo wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:24 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:18 FairForever wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:12 tdt wrote:
MC has PuMa figure out. No way will PuMa win this time around. I'll put real money on it. Hope PuMa is favored...

Biggest worry for MC is MaNa with random PvP.. I mean hongun demolished MC and never won a PvP before.


MC also lost two games in his group in GSL to move to up-and-downs... neither of which was 1/1/1 all-in. I think PuMa could definitely take out MC, I wouldn't even be surprised if PuMa used the 1/1/1 all-in twice or three times and was successful each time.

I think PuMa 3-0 Socke, MC 3-1 Mana.

MVP did indeed do a 1/1/1 maybe not an all in but still 1/1/1 with bunker contain. But yeah MC was off that day happens to the best of them. He's red hot ATM though.


1/1/1 with 2 bases

1/1/1 is not defined by bases but units and timing. Rewatch vod. Artosis calls it.

Barracks, tanks, banshee, ravens.
Obviously 1/1/1 right? It didn't have the all-in factor with SCV pull on one base. But still in fact a 1/1/1 composition.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 20 2011 07:58 GMT
#183
On August 20 2011 16:56 tooDARKpark wrote:
Having a real hard time locating VODs for this event. Are they requiring that you pay for subscription in order to view them?


you have to pay premium if you want to watch vods right now. i think free vods get released in a few days. you can download the replays for free and watch them in-game. that's what i did for mc vs select.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 08:07:53
August 20 2011 08:02 GMT
#184
Edit: nvm, just read about it
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Gargara
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania150 Posts
August 20 2011 08:03 GMT
#185
On August 20 2011 16:58 haka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 16:56 tooDARKpark wrote:
Having a real hard time locating VODs for this event. Are they requiring that you pay for subscription in order to view them?


you have to pay premium if you want to watch vods right now. i think free vods get released in a few days. you can download the replays for free and watch them in-game. that's what i did for mc vs select.


You can download the replays if you guys want.

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/cologne/news/168277/
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
August 20 2011 08:05 GMT
#186
Puma has to beat Socke so its a pvt final and not pvp. I like MC but Mana is tearing it up lately and I wouldn't mind him going to the final either.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 20 2011 08:07 GMT
#187
Go socke/mana!

Let EU > KR .
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 20 2011 08:11 GMT
#188
Gogogo Socke! You can do it :>
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
deisler
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3 Posts
August 20 2011 08:14 GMT
#189
MC is so arrogant i hope he'll lose, but well he's so imba ;D
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 20 2011 08:18 GMT
#190
On August 20 2011 17:14 deisler wrote:
MC is so arrogant i hope he'll lose, but well he's so imba ;D


He only does it for show/for the fans. He's really not like that all the time, it's like WWE that's his performing attitude :D
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
deisler
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3 Posts
August 20 2011 08:22 GMT
#191
hm, ok i accept your opinion but i dont like that anyway :b
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
August 20 2011 08:24 GMT
#192
On August 20 2011 16:54 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 16:44 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:39 Flowjo wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:24 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:18 FairForever wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:12 tdt wrote:
MC has PuMa figure out. No way will PuMa win this time around. I'll put real money on it. Hope PuMa is favored...

Biggest worry for MC is MaNa with random PvP.. I mean hongun demolished MC and never won a PvP before.


MC also lost two games in his group in GSL to move to up-and-downs... neither of which was 1/1/1 all-in. I think PuMa could definitely take out MC, I wouldn't even be surprised if PuMa used the 1/1/1 all-in twice or three times and was successful each time.

I think PuMa 3-0 Socke, MC 3-1 Mana.

MVP did indeed do a 1/1/1 maybe not an all in but still 1/1/1 with bunker contain. But yeah MC was off that day happens to the best of them. He's red hot ATM though.


1/1/1 with 2 bases

1/1/1 is not defined by bases but units and timing. Rewatch vod. Artosis calls it.


... 1 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport. That defines a 1/1/1 not units or timing

By your standard every Terran build past 10 min is a 1/1/1 then since I've never seen a Terran not get 1 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport if game goes past 10 min. No 1/1/1 is defined as banshee, marine, tank, & raven optional push very early which is extremely difficult for protoss to defend due to slower tech path. One or two base dont matter as second base is a cool trick to lull Protoss into complacency but has little effect on end result.
MC for president
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
August 20 2011 08:37 GMT
#193
Is there a stream link for this?
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
August 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#194
Starcraft will start around 1200-1230.

www.esl.tv
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 20 2011 08:41 GMT
#195
On August 20 2011 17:40 MrBitter wrote:
Starcraft will start around 1200-1230.

www.esl.tv


What time EST is that?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
August 20 2011 08:42 GMT
#196
On August 20 2011 17:41 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 17:40 MrBitter wrote:
Starcraft will start around 1200-1230.

www.esl.tv


What time EST is that?

It's in 1 hour and 20 minutes
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
August 20 2011 08:44 GMT
#197
I'm rooting for Socke and Mana, but I just hope that they won't lose 0-3.
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
August 20 2011 08:44 GMT
#198
Socke will take this, it's about time he wins a big tourney, and this is going to be it! He's got the balls, the skills and the game sense to do it!
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 20 2011 08:46 GMT
#199
On August 20 2011 16:54 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 16:44 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:39 Flowjo wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:24 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:18 FairForever wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:12 tdt wrote:
MC has PuMa figure out. No way will PuMa win this time around. I'll put real money on it. Hope PuMa is favored...

Biggest worry for MC is MaNa with random PvP.. I mean hongun demolished MC and never won a PvP before.


MC also lost two games in his group in GSL to move to up-and-downs... neither of which was 1/1/1 all-in. I think PuMa could definitely take out MC, I wouldn't even be surprised if PuMa used the 1/1/1 all-in twice or three times and was successful each time.

I think PuMa 3-0 Socke, MC 3-1 Mana.

MVP did indeed do a 1/1/1 maybe not an all in but still 1/1/1 with bunker contain. But yeah MC was off that day happens to the best of them. He's red hot ATM though.


1/1/1 with 2 bases

1/1/1 is not defined by bases but units and timing. Rewatch vod. Artosis calls it.


... 1 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport. That defines a 1/1/1 not units or timing

semantics aside, when people talk about 1/1/1 vs. protoss it usually defines a marine/tank/banshee composition, otherwise it's just stupid to talk about using 1/1/1 because that can lead to a wide variety of tech and openings. It's also stupid to refer to a 1/1/1 opening in TvT and TvZ because that literally tells you nothing about what units they actually opened with.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
August 20 2011 08:47 GMT
#200
On August 20 2011 17:24 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 16:54 kNyTTyM wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:44 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:39 Flowjo wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:24 tdt wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:18 FairForever wrote:
On August 20 2011 16:12 tdt wrote:
MC has PuMa figure out. No way will PuMa win this time around. I'll put real money on it. Hope PuMa is favored...

Biggest worry for MC is MaNa with random PvP.. I mean hongun demolished MC and never won a PvP before.


MC also lost two games in his group in GSL to move to up-and-downs... neither of which was 1/1/1 all-in. I think PuMa could definitely take out MC, I wouldn't even be surprised if PuMa used the 1/1/1 all-in twice or three times and was successful each time.

I think PuMa 3-0 Socke, MC 3-1 Mana.

MVP did indeed do a 1/1/1 maybe not an all in but still 1/1/1 with bunker contain. But yeah MC was off that day happens to the best of them. He's red hot ATM though.


1/1/1 with 2 bases

1/1/1 is not defined by bases but units and timing. Rewatch vod. Artosis calls it.


... 1 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport. That defines a 1/1/1 not units or timing

By your standard every Terran build past 10 min is a 1/1/1 then since I've never seen a Terran not get 1 barracks, 1 factory, 1 starport if game goes past 10 min. No 1/1/1 is defined as banshee, marine, tank, & raven optional push very early which is extremely difficult for protoss to defend due to slower tech path. One or two base dont matter as second base is a cool trick to lull Protoss into complacency but has little effect on end result.


Dont try to be cute. Every terran build past 10 minutes doesnt have only one of each, think a little before posting. The 1/1/1 was designed with an offensive purpose in mind but was also applied to defense. Its a solid oppening that allows the Terran some flexibility. And like the name says, it consists of building 1 barracks followed by one factory and a starport right after. What you do with those buildings its up to you but the name comes from that sequence that was new in a time where people were 2raxing or 3 raxing only then start to think about the factory. Yes maybe most players go 1/1/1 to use the famous composition from the last months(?) maybe, but that has nothing to do with the name of the build.
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