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Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1861
On August 18 2011 22:09 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:05 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:02 -_- wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:01 cyclone25 wrote:
Why do protoss players never get sentrys in late game vs this composition? They are insanely good.



It's a gas issue. Plus, sentries aren't insanely good. Sentries with tons of energy are insanely good. And if you warp them in late game they don't get that.

That said, against mass roaches, you either need good blink stalker micro or good force fields. But HuK never had a good combination for dealing with Moonglade's army, and once Moonglade had gotten that ridiculous zerg deathcloud, HuK had few options. Good HT usage would also have been a good option.


I like the expression "deathcloud".

Protoss has the original deathball, Zerg now has deathcloud, but what does Terran have?


Nuclear frikkin missles :p
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:12:56
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1862
Honestly I thought Huk was better than this, glade did not show any impressive play at all imo. Sorry to the AUS guys, no offence :D

Hopefully this series will be better.
ELlminator1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia344 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1863
On August 18 2011 22:07 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:06 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:04 Kurumi wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 Zzoram wrote:
Moonglade needs to get picked up by a new team

I don't know. Didn't he leave FXO because of life problems?

FXO kicked him out because he wasn't playing in tournaments anymore.

Wasn't it also because he was reluctant about the whole Korea thing?

Pretty much because he didn't choose to go train with the team in Korea/Indonesia or travel to tournaments due to personal issues.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1864
If HuK can't even beat Moonglade he will be in big trouble vs nerchio.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1865
On August 18 2011 22:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
League of Legends? Ew.


i think the stream numbers quadrupled during that commercial. haters gonna hate.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1866
On August 18 2011 22:10 Dagobert wrote:
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On August 18 2011 22:04 syllogism wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 Chaosvuistje wrote:
switch to EG > Lose games

jokes aside, amazing series and inspirational play from both huk and moonglade

He was losing games all the time before the switch, this is getting really obnoxious

Yea, it's not like weeks of negotiations and painful discussions with people who are close to you would affect a player.

When exactly do you think the deal was reached? He just won gsl matches despite all that
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
August 18 2011 13:12 GMT
#1867
On August 18 2011 22:10 Dissonance23 wrote:
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On August 18 2011 22:08 StimMarine wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:06 zyzq wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:06 Asha` wrote:
I don't get why people are raving about Moonglade, it wasn't like that was exactly a quality series...


people just wanted to see HuK lose


I actually thought Moonglade played pretty well in game 2 and 3. Needs refinement, but still. His timings on larva (injecting and making units) are amazing.


His injects were quite bad the last game, looked like his main queen had around 125~150 energy only 20 minutes in.


Yeah but they weren't limiting his production. He playes like a good ladder player and needs refinement in these aspects. But in general, his play is quite good. I liked how he made a point to burrow every injured roach to heal them.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1868
On August 18 2011 22:10 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:09 Sbrubbles wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:02 -_- wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:01 cyclone25 wrote:
Why do protoss players never get sentrys in late game vs this composition? They are insanely good.



It's a gas issue. Plus, sentries aren't insanely good. Sentries with tons of energy are insanely good. And if you warp them in late game they don't get that.

That said, against mass roaches, you either need good blink stalker micro or good force fields. But HuK never had a good combination for dealing with Moonglade's army, and once Moonglade had gotten that ridiculous zerg deathcloud, HuK had few options. Good HT usage would also have been a good option.


I like the expression "deathcloud".

Protoss has the original deathball, Zerg now has deathcloud, but what does Terran have?


Blue flame hellions


And the most scary one: stim marines!
I've got moves like Jagger
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:14:23
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1869
Sadly, I don't think the EG curse applies to Puma, at least not when facing foreigners, but I can always hope! Need DRG in this tournament too.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:14:05
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1870
On August 18 2011 22:12 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
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On August 18 2011 22:09 Dfgj wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:08 thopol wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 Pajegetc wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 cENTRYZ wrote:
So Moonglade still in good shape? I was really digging him back half a year ago, good to see he's up there still.


He's just another Zerg that abuses the broken Infestor/Broodlord combo.

Are you kidding me? Glade showed off a revolutionary style that series. Every game he went for late tech in favor of being able to reinforce quickly. Many players look for the answer to a certain problem in composition, hitting that tech unit in time to deal with the enemy's actions. Glade chose instead to bank resources and neglect tech to make sure he remaxed after engagements. I don't know if it's the best way to do it, but it certainly worked.

....except glade didn't have to remax in game 3's midgame because he didn't have any major engagements after he maxed out and still waited until 20+ for greater spire

That's not revolutionary, that's the most basic 'lets make roaches forever on 50 droens' style that zergs have used for ages
He won, not against some scrub protoss. He won against Huk. Now tell Moonglade that he didn't play well and his style didn't counter Huk's today.

I don't give a shit who he won against if the game was bad. I'll still say the game was bad.

And yes, I think sitting on 50+ drones, not expanding, delaying tech against a turtling protoss, and sitting around with a maxed army doing nothing is poor play.

I also think having an army completely untailored to handle Broodlords and proceeding to practically attack through a choke against an army that has broodlords is poor play.
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1871
On August 18 2011 22:06 Lexxes wrote:
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On August 18 2011 22:05 Nesquik wrote:
Sometimes Team Liquid has the worse community I've seen so bias. Anyone in HuKs place would be stupid not to take up a life time changing chance, I'm a HuK fan before and still a very solid Huk fan. Grow up!


Im a Liquid-fan, and u r on a Liquid site


I am a Liquid-fan too, yet you have to acknowledge two facts:
a) The Team Liquid-Website is the biggest western StarCraf-Community site, as such its natural that there are many fans of other teams here. Your argument would be more valid on the TeamLiquidPro site.
b) Most of the people would decide as HuK did, if they were in HuK's position. In fact it is hard to argue that securing a good income is a bad thing.
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1872
I'm pretty sure Moonglade just played on equal bases against Huk and still won? Is that right? If so, wtf?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1873
On August 18 2011 22:13 vrok wrote:
Sadly, I don't think the EG curse applies to Puma, but I can always hope.


Oh it will apply. Sooner or later.

But Stephano can do this.
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
August 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#1874
On August 18 2011 22:13 vrok wrote:
Sadly, I don't think the EG curse applies to Puma, at least not when facing foreigners, but I can always hope!

stop hating and enjoy the games...
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1875
lets see if the EG-curse is strong in Puma :-D
If you dont do it, someone else will
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1876
On August 18 2011 22:09 schmutttt wrote:
Glade does the army composition that counters HuKs and people are crying about balance? HuK had no HTs (Which counter infestors) and void rays (Which counter broods and are cost effective against corruptors).

sigh

GLADE FIGHTING!


This is not rock-paper-scissors.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1877
lol puma losing a building scv to the drone. hope he doesnt go on tilt because of this. can be so frustrating.
wokyfromaus
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1 Post
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1878
Australia battling against the sc2 gods, fuck yeah
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1879
Koreans are immune to stupid curses.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
August 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#1880
On August 18 2011 22:12 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:09 Dfgj wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:08 thopol wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 Pajegetc wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 cENTRYZ wrote:
So Moonglade still in good shape? I was really digging him back half a year ago, good to see he's up there still.


He's just another Zerg that abuses the broken Infestor/Broodlord combo.

Are you kidding me? Glade showed off a revolutionary style that series. Every game he went for late tech in favor of being able to reinforce quickly. Many players look for the answer to a certain problem in composition, hitting that tech unit in time to deal with the enemy's actions. Glade chose instead to bank resources and neglect tech to make sure he remaxed after engagements. I don't know if it's the best way to do it, but it certainly worked.

....except glade didn't have to remax in game 3's midgame because he didn't have any major engagements after he maxed out and still waited until 20+ for greater spire

That's not revolutionary, that's the most basic 'lets make roaches forever on 50 droens' style that zergs have used for ages
He won, not against some scrub protoss. He won against Huk. Now tell Moonglade that he didn't play well and his style didn't counter Huk's today.

Not saying Huk played 100% by any means - I think he's just so much more ruthless during Code S / GSL... like ripping apart MMA's 1-1-1 with ease while TL-ers are in despair about how to defend it. Huk regularly dismantles zergs everywhere he goes. But maybe today he was in a lighter mood and wasn't at his top game (pylons in game 2 ... :p)


Take off your fanboy goggles, MMA messed up the 1-1-1 HARD and he got to ro16 this season by beating SangHo twice...
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