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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 18 2011 13:16 GMT
#1901
On August 18 2011 22:15 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:14 Absentia wrote:
Just me who thought that Huk's unit composition was a bit weak then? 5 Colossi and more archons seems like it would've fared far better in that big confrontation than the 3 Colossi and zealot heavy army Huk had.

Too many zeals, not enough stalkers, not enough storms. I agree, his army wasn't well-set to handle Infestor play in general and brood/infestor especially.


Storms were the lacking faactor.

High templar and storm and then morph

When your DPS comes from 6-8 colossus, when infester NP them, you not only LOSE YOUR DPS, but zerg gets it.

That doesn't work against templar, storms just do their huge 80 damage and then you get archons 15 sec later.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
August 18 2011 13:16 GMT
#1902
On August 18 2011 22:15 vrok wrote:
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On August 18 2011 22:13 rapture wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:13 vrok wrote:
Sadly, I don't think the EG curse applies to Puma, at least not when facing foreigners, but I can always hope!

stop hating and enjoy the games...

I can do both at the same time thank you very much. Contrary to the hipster EG haters, I did it before it was cool.


Your definition of hipster is the opposite of what you think it is.

You are the hipster when you say that.

>.<
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1903
Wow, I only just joined the stream and check the results so far but I'm so surprised that mOOnGLaDe managed to beat HuK. I had lost faith in our Aussie hero but I'm so glad that he won both for his sake and for the sake of hoping EG loses everything possible.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:17:24
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1904
Wrong thread XD.
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1905
Has Rotti been keeping up with the metagame at all? Clearly SlayerS drop incoming.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1906
On August 18 2011 22:16 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:14 Telcontar wrote:
Koreans are immune to stupid curses.


MKP, YellOw...

But yes, those are stupid.

Wasn't there an OGN commentator that had a curse?
lotny
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland154 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1907
Omg what is sase doing...
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1908
oh god... is this the slayers TvZ build...
Gameplay > Personality
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1909
On August 18 2011 22:15 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:09 Dfgj wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:08 thopol wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 Pajegetc wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 cENTRYZ wrote:
So Moonglade still in good shape? I was really digging him back half a year ago, good to see he's up there still.


He's just another Zerg that abuses the broken Infestor/Broodlord combo.

Are you kidding me? Glade showed off a revolutionary style that series. Every game he went for late tech in favor of being able to reinforce quickly. Many players look for the answer to a certain problem in composition, hitting that tech unit in time to deal with the enemy's actions. Glade chose instead to bank resources and neglect tech to make sure he remaxed after engagements. I don't know if it's the best way to do it, but it certainly worked.

....except glade didn't have to remax in game 3's midgame because he didn't have any major engagements after he maxed out and still waited until 20+ for greater spire

That's not revolutionary, that's the most basic 'lets make roaches forever on 50 droens' style that zergs have used for ages

That was certainly not some old strategy. If it was, it was executed in a deliberate and mechanical fashion. The point is, Glade decided that endless swarms of roaches was his answer to the Protoss army. He built hatches and macroed slickly to achieve his plan. Every battle there were plenty of larvae when Glade engaged so that he could remacro instantly. This is not an old strategy on the competitive scene, at least not at this level. Because it isn't something in the modern meta, it worked well.


Either you are trolling, or you haven't followed SC2 for very long.

Mass-roach supported with meticulous macro has been out FOR-EV-ER. And Moonglade didn't even execute it very well, as he was floating several thousands of ressources and didn't get more hatcheries/expansions, nearly losing and unlosable game.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
August 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#1910
On August 18 2011 22:16 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:11 orz.fail wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:06 Lexxes wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 Nesquik wrote:
Sometimes Team Liquid has the worse community I've seen so bias. Anyone in HuKs place would be stupid not to take up a life time changing chance, I'm a HuK fan before and still a very solid Huk fan. Grow up!


Im a Liquid-fan, and u r on a Liquid site


You are right that this site is teamliquid.net, the largest SC2 community outside of Korea (and to my best guess inside it as well), but as expressed multiple times by the staff of this site, they are not exactly the same as Team Liquid the actual team (for that, you can go to teamliquidpro.com).

Yes, TL.net is the home site of the actual team, but at the same time it has grown to become a collection of everything.

Just so people are clear, tlpro.com is the home site of the team, tl.net is a forum/community that sometimes works with tlpro.

Don't be afraid to be an EG/mouz/Dignitas/etc. fan here. As long as you <3 SC2 (and don't bitch about balance), that's fine by us.

Also, everyone should keep in mind that 'fan' is short for 'fanatic.'



People will still ignore this idea sadly
Seany
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia114 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1911
PLEASE stop crying imba over that game...


Step 1. Don't open dt rush into cancel into fail blink stalkers into being 50 supply behind with no good tech or upgrades...

(From here a good zerg will usually take the entire map and drone, moonglade either felt sorry for huk.. or more likely was just too stoned to care)

Step 2. Dont turtle into engaging roach/infestor/broodlord/corruptor in a choke, with no feed back, bad upgrades and let all your archons get neuraled


off topic-
now that Huk has joined eg and started loosing, will growing patchy pubic-hair-looking facial hair be the next step?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1912
On August 18 2011 22:17 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:16 Grettin wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:14 Telcontar wrote:
Koreans are immune to stupid curses.


MKP, YellOw...

But yes, those are stupid.

Wasn't there an OGN commentator that had a curse?

Kim Carrier? lols Koreans can curse each other however much they like.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1913
Great defense by Stephano.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1914
Nice hold
BaLoO-
Profile Joined January 2011
France318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:18:38
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1915
On August 18 2011 22:14 Absentia wrote:
Just me who thought that Huk's unit composition was a bit weak then? 5 Colossi and more archons seems like it would've fared far better in that big confrontation than the 3 Colossi and zealot heavy army Huk had.


The choice is not between colossi/archon and zealots ... Ofc HuK would have prefered to have all his zealot's pop in archons, but it costs a lot of gas. However I believe he should have had HTs instead of archons.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1916
Looks like the Slayers build has been figured out now.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1917
On August 18 2011 22:15 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:09 Dfgj wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:08 thopol wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:05 Pajegetc wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:03 cENTRYZ wrote:
So Moonglade still in good shape? I was really digging him back half a year ago, good to see he's up there still.


He's just another Zerg that abuses the broken Infestor/Broodlord combo.

Are you kidding me? Glade showed off a revolutionary style that series. Every game he went for late tech in favor of being able to reinforce quickly. Many players look for the answer to a certain problem in composition, hitting that tech unit in time to deal with the enemy's actions. Glade chose instead to bank resources and neglect tech to make sure he remaxed after engagements. I don't know if it's the best way to do it, but it certainly worked.

....except glade didn't have to remax in game 3's midgame because he didn't have any major engagements after he maxed out and still waited until 20+ for greater spire

That's not revolutionary, that's the most basic 'lets make roaches forever on 50 droens' style that zergs have used for ages

That was certainly not some old strategy. If it was, it was executed in a deliberate and mechanical fashion. The point is, Glade decided that endless swarms of roaches was his answer to the Protoss army. He built hatches and macroed slickly to achieve his plan. Every battle there were plenty of larvae when Glade engaged so that he could remacro instantly. This is not an old strategy on the competitive scene, at least not at this level. Because it isn't something in the modern meta, it worked well.

Uh what

Cutting around 50 drones and pouring roaches before slowteching is practically the most common thing zerg does, especially against aggressive protoss play. Glade executed it well (though his decisionmaking to not get more econ/tech when he saw Huk was forced to turtle was... questionable), but you're definitely talking this up.
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1918
PLZ Stephano make my day!!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1919
On August 18 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:
Now we get to see Puma eat Stephano alive. Should be fun.


Actually never mind. Puma is thoroughly unimpressive so far ;p.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
August 18 2011 13:18 GMT
#1920
See Idra thats how you defend that
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