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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 12 2011 20:45 Jacobs Ladder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:42 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:39 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On August 12 2011 20:37 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 12 2011 20:33 ktgster wrote:
Doesn't anyone find that the standard for TvP is doing a 1 base all in on every map that permits it is fundamentally wrong? You can claim it's perfectly holdable given perfect execution, but when players have the confidence to do it every single game, don't you think something is wrong?
my 2 cents Yep, I agree that something is wrong~_~ I do think Ps should do more builds that counter it blindly, but I dont think they should HAVE to do that. which means u also agree 1-1-1 is a problem I don't think Jinro's original post that included telling people to jump in a lake was saying that 1-1-1 isn't a problem - he was saying that people who think it's literally impossible to hold off are lacking in intelligence, and I agree with that. Unfortunately, many people seem to have bandwagoned on it and turned it into a huge strawman, which is probably not what Jinro wanted  Even though it might not seem that way because the build makes me irate some times, I completely agree. It can be defended, its just very hard. I just so bored with that build that I want it to be solved or fixed or something (which is easier said than done without breaking something else).
I was telling people to jump in a lake because yesterday they whine about Thorzain not using his banshee to scout, and today they whine about the banshee dying to phoenixes because asd used it to scout.
There needs to be consistency, you cant go "OMG HE FAILED THE BUILD BECAUSE HE DIDNT SCOUT WITH BANSHEE" then next day go "OMG HE FAILED THE BUILD BECAUSE HE SCOUTED WITH BANSHEE".
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United States23455 Posts
I know this is off topic, but one of my friends online linked me to this game: http://sc2manager.org/
You can control a fictional SC2 team, enter tournaments, sign players, etc. Kinda like the BW manager but without downloading anything ~ Something fun to do when you're bored.
Also TheBest is impressing me a bit.
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Lol yeah, I won't take beer at 1 pm...
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On August 12 2011 20:47 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:45 Telcontar wrote:
Yeah.... so the 1st rule in ZvT is, don't go roaches? Well, they shut down hellions well, and the burrowed move can certainly do some damage to tank lines. I'd say the moral is don't stick on roaches for too long. I think they serve a roll similar to hydras in ZvP. It's good to have a handful of them early-mid, but rarely make more than that.
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Just noticed that Venus league is on Venerdì(Fryday) (literally Day of Venus in italian) and Jupiter League is on Giovedì(Thursday) (literally Day of Jupiter in italian) :O
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On August 12 2011 20:47 Tachion wrote:
Remember when GSTL teams wouldn't dare send out a Zerg?
I do <3
haha yeah, they were throwing terrans at each other non stop :D
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On August 12 2011 20:47 s3183529 wrote:Just quote myself so y'all can see. Those who think u're better than MVP are probably delusional.
Chill dude, we're long past the 1-1-1 stage of this LR. That conversation is dieing. Now the cool topic is ZvT and why Artosis hates TheBest
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On August 12 2011 20:46 thoradycus wrote:
rofl the best fake ever
the MC / theSTC fake last night was better
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United Arab Emirates874 Posts
Wouldnt Byun be a better choice? Anyways hope thebest wins this! :D :D
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On August 12 2011 20:47 Qaatar wrote:
He hasn't 111'd in the GSL,
Best sc2 nerd verb ever: to 111, 111ed, 111ed
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On August 12 2011 20:47 s3183529 wrote:Just quote myself so y'all can see. Those who think u're better than MVP are probably delusional.
1/1/1 is killing ESPORTS...literally lol
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Wait...so TheBestfOu has been trolling us THIS WHOLE TIME?!
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On August 12 2011 20:47 JKira wrote:That's funny because MVP often uses a 2base variation of the 1-1-1 to set up contains. I appreciate that he has the...iunno what the word is, dignity (?) to not do the allin version.
Uh, he's done it once in the GSL. Wtf...
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Yeah, I'm always mystified by these player choices, but we don't have anywhere near the same information the teams have. There are reasons ... the coaches/teams aren't stupid and they do want to win.
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On August 12 2011 20:48 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:47 Tachion wrote:
Remember when GSTL teams wouldn't dare send out a Zerg?
I do <3 haha yeah, they were throwing terrans at each other non stop :D
Then there was the GSTL when only Protoss would win.
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On August 12 2011 20:48 Gheizen64 wrote:
Just noticed that Venus league is on Venerdì(Fryday) (literally Day of Venus in italian) and Jupiter League is on Giovedì(Thursday) (literally Day of Jupiter in italian) :O
Yep.
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What map is this one based on again?
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Is Daybreak based on BW map, or did i hear Artosis wrong?
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On August 12 2011 20:47 s3183529 wrote:Just quote myself so y'all can see. Those who think u're better than MVP are probably delusional.
How ironic when he did the exact same thing but off of 2 bases against MC.
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On August 12 2011 20:44 BuddhaMonk wrote:
I feel like if Line just made mutas he would have been in a much better position in the mid-game to set himself up for Broodlord's later.
I had a similar thought when Artosis hypothecized that Line is inexperienced against mech when in reality he was famous for playing against all forms of Terran with pure MutaLing. I would agree he didn't understand how to use Broodlord Roach since that's not the comp he traditionally uses.
Congrats to the best. He played that game in a very clean manner that makes me think his sloppiness from the Super Tournament will be overtaken.
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