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line so much more beastly than people know. he's got this eesy
On August 12 2011 20:25 ThaSlayer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. Well since you havent lost to a single 1/1/1 in months, would you kindly create a thread on holding off?
what do you think he's saying
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On August 12 2011 20:27 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:26 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:25 Sabu113 wrote:On August 12 2011 20:23 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:21 JKira wrote:
Phoenix opening just lost to a factory opening. The world will end now right? I thought somebody said that can't happen...I'm really puzzled now. Lets no be complete asshats. I for one still enjoy pro posts on the forum. God So stoked by puzzle. That's the one upside to Toss' position. Savor the victories ever more. Yeah, because telling people to go and jump into a fucking lake is a classy move... Yes, because the whiners deserve classy moves. News at eleven, providing facts is now called whining.
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On August 12 2011 20:27 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:26 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:25 Sabu113 wrote:On August 12 2011 20:23 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:21 JKira wrote:
Phoenix opening just lost to a factory opening. The world will end now right? I thought somebody said that can't happen...I'm really puzzled now. Lets no be complete asshats. I for one still enjoy pro posts on the forum. God So stoked by puzzle. That's the one upside to Toss' position. Savor the victories ever more. Yeah, because telling people to go and jump into a fucking lake is a classy move... Yes, because the whiners deserve classy moves.
Being concerned about balance when a build that's existed since beta still has a 90% winrate at the highest level of play is whining, now?
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On August 12 2011 20:27 BuddhaMonk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. You explained the fallacy in your own post. What may be logical for one level of play (NA Masters) may not apply to a higher level of play (Code A/S), thus it's a logical fallacy to say that "If I can stop this all-in at Masters level, then Code S players should also be able to stop it".
... you're agreeing with him.
HolyArrow didn't say "If I can stop this all-in at Masters level, then Code S players should also be able to stop it" - he was responding to someone who DID say it.
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fou's hope rests all in the hands of TheBest!!
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On August 12 2011 20:27 Orpheusz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. You realize that you have a different mmr for each different race so it evens out to 50/50 right
No they don't.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
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On August 12 2011 20:28 Gh86 wrote:
I think we need a TheBest fanclub if he reverse 3 kills ZENEX
He already has one.
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On August 12 2011 20:28 Shooks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. Read my post before and realize how stupid you are. A Code S player isn't gonna pull it off much better (if any at all) then some top NA terrans (since it's relatively easy to pull off), you also think high level masters only vs other high level masters, I've vsed players like trimaster who I've held off the 1-1-1
na masters is like bronze KR
korean masters is like only idra and kiwi from na
doesn't need to say more
u can defend whatever u want on na
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On August 12 2011 20:27 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:27 JKira wrote:On August 12 2011 20:25 Kavas wrote:On August 12 2011 20:23 JKira wrote:On August 12 2011 20:22 DizzySheep wrote:On August 12 2011 20:21 JKira wrote:
Phoenix opening just lost to a factory opening. The world will end now right? This was a different all-in...it's mass bio with tanks only no starports..U need colossi for this I'm just referencing Jinro saying Phoenix is auto-win vs any factory build. 2 rax is a factory build now? Does that mean every terran build is a factory build because they make factory? Nice logic. I've got to say TheBest knows his all-ins though -_- Calm down, I was just kidding... Pretty hard to tell what posts are jokes within all this whine poop pile tbh.
Fair enough.
To be honest I don't get angry at the 1-1-1. I get angry at people trying to defend the build with bad logic, so sorry if I come off as a whiner.
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On August 12 2011 20:28 Shooks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. Read my post before and realize how stupid you are. A Code S player isn't gonna pull it off much better (if any at all) then some top NA terrans (since it's relatively easy to pull off), you also think high level masters only vs other high level masters, I've vsed players like trimaster who I've held off the 1-1-1
Write a guide and automatically u will be having a fan club
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On August 12 2011 20:27 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:26 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:25 Sabu113 wrote:On August 12 2011 20:23 Vardant wrote:On August 12 2011 20:21 JKira wrote:
Phoenix opening just lost to a factory opening. The world will end now right? I thought somebody said that can't happen...I'm really puzzled now. Lets no be complete asshats. I for one still enjoy pro posts on the forum. God So stoked by puzzle. That's the one upside to Toss' position. Savor the victories ever more. Yeah, because telling people to go and jump into a fucking lake is a classy move... Yes, because the whiners deserve classy moves.
Whining about whiners = INFINITE LOOP?
I blew your mind, I know  . Anyways GOGO THEBEST I believe!
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I really hate that they hate sooo much on TheBest ;l, he's shown solid play.
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On August 12 2011 20:23 Shooks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. You're an absolutely idiot. Jesus christ, the 1-1-1 build doesn't exactly have a high skill cap to pull off, a mid masters player that has the timings figured out and decent micro is gonna pull it off as good as a code S player, why are you even calling them Code S players, did you even see asd pull he's 1-1-1 off? He did it worse then a masters player would do it.
Seriously? The top-level Korean 1-1-1 would destroy any master/grandmaster NA player without question. The level of execution is about a dozen notches higher. Compare Puzzle's defense to yours and figure out how easily you would have died in his position. Both players execute and understand things at a higher level than you do, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.
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Why hate on TheBest? I think nobody in this thread can beat him in BO3. Except of course Jinro...
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On August 12 2011 20:28 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:23 Shooks wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. You're an absolutely idiot. Jesus christ, the 1-1-1 build doesn't exactly have a high skill cap to pull off, a mid masters player that has the timings figured out and decent micro is gonna pull it off as good as a code S player, why are you even calling them Code S players, did you even see asd pull he's 1-1-1 off? He did it worse then a masters player would do it. Ok, dude, the players you play against are Code S quality players. And you're amazing because you defend it. Happ ynow?
No? Dickface? This isn't to brag, I'm just responding to retarded silver players that call things OP, players that lose to proxy rax's, players that still lose to 6 pools. These are the players that never get better
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I've always wondered, what's the difference between walling in with the barracks between the two depots and having the two depots next to each other?
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On August 12 2011 20:26 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. Your argument is an appeal to authority. Moreover it's nonsensical given that there code S that support otherwise. End of
Just because it's an appeal to authority doesn't mean it's invalid. My point is that if a High Masters NA player claims it's easy to hold off, then why don't Code S players find it easy to hold off? I'm sure you'd agree that the level of play in Code S is far and beyond the level of play in NA High Masters, which amplifies the apparent contradiction even more in my eyes. You're throwing accusations of logical fallacies at me, but you're not addressing that core point -_-;;
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On August 12 2011 20:27 Orpheusz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 20:24 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 12 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:11 Zane wrote:On August 12 2011 20:04 HolyArrow wrote:On August 12 2011 20:02 Shooks wrote:
God...Shut the fuck up about the 1-1-1 build, it's so easy to stop. I haven't lost to it for 3 months on the NA server, and I'm high masters, bronze level players still lose to 6 pools so I don't know why so many people are complaining about the 1-1-1 Maybe you should teach SangHo, Alicia, and Puzzle how to hold it off then, because they're all complaining about it. Mvp said that terran is the worst race and NesTea said zerg is weak against both terran and protoss. What's your point? My point is that when you're a High Masters NA player saying it's easy to stop and Code S players complain about it, you look pretty stupid. That is such a sad logical fallacy. I fail to see how it's a logical fallacy. High Masters player playing against other High Masters players on the NA server claims it's easy to hold off. Then, Code S players who play against other Code A/Code S (which is miles away from the skill level of NA High Masters) complain about it. Obviously, with such different levels of skill, Shooks's example was invalid because it doesn't apply to the level that Code S/A players play at. You realize that you have a different mmr for each different race so it evens out to 50/50 right? Their vT mmr will eventually get so horrendously low to the point where you will be able to hold it off if you keep losing obviously.
ty for fixing this problem.
if your a masters player losing to other masters players to one build, just play platinums :D genius!
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