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On August 11 2011 17:38 susySquark wrote:


Thats what the zealots are for! (killing/tanking marines, that is)

On August 11 2011 17:32 Belisarius wrote:


Since we're theory-crafting, I personally wouldn't mind seeing PDD go more dark swarm than it. If it did block all (or at least more) ranged attacks like old-school DS, you could perhaps put it on fusion core or armory and reduce the aoe a little to make it late game. I'm sure that would completely break the whole damn game (TvT for one), but still.

Regardless I feel like PDD doesn't get used enough for how awesome a spell it is. This is literally the one thing people do with it. If blizz does decide to nerf the 1-1-1 by nerfing the PDD, it'd be nice if they did it in a way that didn't render the spell completely obsolete.

However, as a protoss, I would probably have to change my pants if they did give stalkers instant shot.

EDIT: Also yes, I actually don't think a PDD nerf would solve this. The push is scary as hell even when it doesn't come with any ravens at all.

On August 11 2011 17:36 susySquark wrote:


Ghost - HT
Raven - ....Mothership?!?!

Clearly the counter is 1 base mothership to vortex the tanks.

... actually. How fast can you get carriers out? Would Carrier+zealot work? I uhm... dont even know what I'm saying anymore.

On August 11 2011 17:40 Highways wrote:
What is this 111 everyone is talking about?

I'm assuming it's the marine, tank, banshee and scv all-in?

On August 11 2011 17:41 StaplerPhone wrote:

Yep, give or take a raven and in Yoda's case a CC >.>

On August 11 2011 17:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'd prefer they just nerf the all-in rather than any specific unit because as I see it ravens are still underused, and banshees are in a good place in all matchups outside this one all in.

On August 11 2011 17:44 Fyzar wrote:
I didn't catch today's games. I guess YoDa 1/1/1'd Tassadar twice?
Poor Tassadar if so, held out of code S by it, and now again.
Also JYP nice! Didn't expect, can someone give me a rundown of those games? (Tassadar's & JYP's)

On August 11 2011 17:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'd prefer they just nerf the all-in rather than any specific unit because as I see it ravens are still underused, and banshees are in a good place in all matchups outside this one all in.

On August 11 2011 17:36 susySquark wrote:


Ghost - HT
Raven - ....Mothership?!?!

Clearly the counter is 1 base mothership to vortex the tanks.

... actually. How fast can you get carriers out? Would Carrier+zealot work? I uhm... dont even know what I'm saying anymore.

On August 11 2011 17:44 susySquark wrote:

How can you nerf a push without nerfing the units in the push?




Tassadar won the first game with clearly superior play.

Yoda 1-1-1's twice, with LOTS of mistakes. Tassadar makes a couple small mistakes, and loses twice.

On August 11 2011 17:44 susySquark wrote:

How can you nerf a push without nerfing the units in the push?




Tassadar won the first game with clearly superior play.

Yoda 1-1-1's twice, with LOTS of mistakes. Tassadar makes a couple small mistakes, and loses twice.

On August 11 2011 17:32 roymarthyup wrote:
i believe i have a build that is good at countering the 1/1/1 and have been using it the last 2weeks , and any protoss out there that thinks they are good enough at executing a terran 1/1/1 may feel free to PM me and you can battle me and see if your 1/1/1 can beat me


or if any tosses out there have a good terran friend to fight me, you can tell him to pm me and i can create a replay with us fighting


the build is a zero sentry build that gets 1 very fast voidray, 3-4 stalkers, and a fast robo (at about 5:30) because it cut sentrys it has enough gas to do all of this. the build ONLY gets 1 voidray, to scout, since marines without stim cannot catch a voidray. and i bring my stalkers with the voidray during the scouting mission so if he has a viking i can save the vray and know he got a super fast starport and is going 1/1/1

heres the build

9pylon (scout with probe)
2 chronoboosts on nexus
14gate
15gas
16pylon
17gas
chronoboost on nexus
19cyber

make stargate+stalker immediately after cyber is done. this allows the terran to scout the stargate, but guess what, who cares. i dont give a damn. let him scout it, he can stop doing a 1/1/1 if he scouts it and i feel at this point i can react properly to whatever he does


i poke his ramp with my first stalkers to see if he is fast expanding. if he is fast expanding i get a expansion too. because im not getting sentrys i go for a fast collossi if i scout plenty barracks. i get ONLY 1 voidray out of the stargate for nothing other than scouting purposes. the voidray in total costs 400/300, however since marines without stim cannot catch it i normally can kill 1 marine or scv or a depot at the 6 minute mark then run away and recharge shields which if you reduce that from the cost of the voidray that means the real cost of the voidray is like 300/300, and for its cost it has some power in combat but most importantly the voidray provides a full complete scout at the 6 minute mark (it reaches the terran base at 6 minutes) because you get it so fast

the voidray comes out at around 5:30 and i scout with it before the terran can have stim

the voidray+stalkers beats any fast rush the terran could do, and normally after 4-5 stalkers i stop and make mostly immortal+zealot and go for a fast collossi. the fast 2 gasses and no sentries gives lots of gas for a fast tech

On August 11 2011 17:44 susySquark wrote:

How can you nerf a push without nerfing the units in the push?




Tassadar won the first game with clearly superior play.

Yoda 1-1-1's twice, with LOTS of mistakes. Tassadar makes a couple small mistakes, and loses twice.

On August 11 2011 17:46 Mike15xp wrote:
bitbybit should return to sc2 ... i feel like this is his thing

On August 11 2011 17:46 mcc wrote:

Well, actually if you are blind countering like Tassadar, might as well try that. Mothership, carrier zelot might do something