On August 07 2011 02:45 Cognizance wrote: Fun fact:
A speed-upgraded warp prism is as fast as a stimmed marine. Fuck!
Speed-upgraded void rays used to be that fast too, rofl
Very long tech route just for a speed upgrade to a flimsy transport
I doubt anybody will go robo bay purely for Warp prism speed upgrade lol ^_^
It's more of a late game option when you're going/went collosi
That's just my point, because of where the upgrade is on the tech tree it is an afterthought (after colossi and after thermal lance), by which time splitting your army into what ever you load into the warp prism/warp in under it may make the difference between winning and losing if the Terran counters.
Basically Toss harass is weak, not that we needed to see this game to know that
GOOD NEWS
Dustin Browder's said they're looking into giving Protoss a true harass unit (he called it raiding lol) in HotS. YEEEEEEEAH
Good news indeed, when HOTS eventually comes out heh
Well we'll have our hands on the beta before it's out.
Here's the plan, and I want you to spread it to all your Protoss friends. When they give us the harass unit in beta, hopefully it's super OP. What we must do is NOT ABUSE IT. We have to wait until release because up until that point they'll be trigger happy with their balance changes. When HotS is released, we may unleash its true strength.
Lol remember when toss was devestating people in Beta?
On August 07 2011 02:54 StimMarine wrote: Wow the translator is really unprofessional.
he runs the ESL
and is a troll
Can't agree with you more. I don't know why he pointed that out, "I won't translate that". I mean, seriously? Why not? With that kind of tone I don't know if your a good person for the job. Get someone else or try act more positive, it's part of the job.
Anyhow, great play by thorzain!
He said he wasn't gonna translate the mules are imba part with a smirk on his face. How is that being negative. People need to relax...
He also "thanked" Thorzain for giving a long, technical answer to a question. Passive-aggressive translator is passive-aggressive. People are saying he has other stuff on his plate, whatever, they should get someone to translate who isn't going to treat it like a chore.
Carmac obviously finds it a bit silly because as he said earlier, the majority of the crowd can understand the English answers anyway *shrug*
On August 07 2011 02:45 Cognizance wrote: Fun fact:
A speed-upgraded warp prism is as fast as a stimmed marine. Fuck!
Speed-upgraded void rays used to be that fast too, rofl
Very long tech route just for a speed upgrade to a flimsy transport
I doubt anybody will go robo bay purely for Warp prism speed upgrade lol ^_^
It's more of a late game option when you're going/went collosi
That's just my point, because of where the upgrade is on the tech tree it is an afterthought (after colossi and after thermal lance), by which time splitting your army into what ever you load into the warp prism/warp in under it may make the difference between winning and losing if the Terran counters.
Basically Toss harass is weak, not that we needed to see this game to know that
GOOD NEWS
Dustin Browder's said they're looking into giving Protoss a true harass unit (he called it raiding lol) in HotS. YEEEEEEEAH
Good news indeed, when HOTS eventually comes out heh
Well we'll have our hands on the beta before it's out.
Here's the plan, and I want you to spread it to all your Protoss friends. When they give us the harass unit in beta, hopefully it's super OP. What we must do is NOT ABUSE IT. We have to wait until release because up until that point they'll be trigger happy with their balance changes. When HotS is released, we may unleash its true strength.
So THAT'S what Terrans were doing with Blueflame Hellions up until now...
:|
Indeed, lay low with the new reaver. Give it some months before using it
You don't understand the game! Most of the people always want to just own other people and if there will be a OP Unit in the Beta, it will be abused like if there will be no tomorrow.
On August 07 2011 02:45 Cognizance wrote: Fun fact:
A speed-upgraded warp prism is as fast as a stimmed marine. Fuck!
Speed-upgraded void rays used to be that fast too, rofl
Very long tech route just for a speed upgrade to a flimsy transport
I doubt anybody will go robo bay purely for Warp prism speed upgrade lol ^_^
It's more of a late game option when you're going/went collosi
That's just my point, because of where the upgrade is on the tech tree it is an afterthought (after colossi and after thermal lance), by which time splitting your army into what ever you load into the warp prism/warp in under it may make the difference between winning and losing if the Terran counters.
Basically Toss harass is weak, not that we needed to see this game to know that
GOOD NEWS
Dustin Browder's said they're looking into giving Protoss a true harass unit (he called it raiding lol) in HotS. YEEEEEEEAH
Good news indeed, when HOTS eventually comes out heh
Well we'll have our hands on the beta before it's out.
Here's the plan, and I want you to spread it to all your Protoss friends. When they give us the harass unit in beta, hopefully it's super OP. What we must do is NOT ABUSE IT. We have to wait until release because up until that point they'll be trigger happy with their balance changes. When HotS is released, we may unleash its true strength.
So THAT'S what Terrans were doing with Blueflame Hellions up until now...
:|
And zergs with infestors.(I know it got a buff though)
On August 07 2011 02:53 Cognizance wrote: 2 Orbitals = 2 contsant MULEs = ~8 constant extra SCVs
But isn't that meant to make up for chronoboost on probes? If Terran didn't have mules they'd always be behind tvp wouldn't they?
No actually they would be on an equal level.
And for your information, 2 mules = 12 SCVs (1 mule = 6).
How would they be equal if protoss always has more harvesters?
wasn't a mule something like 4 scv? and chrono allows you to get 2 probes instead of 1 no? correct me if im wrong
Chrono speeds building time by 33% I think, so if you keep chronoboosting you'll get ahead quickly
Yup, T definitely can't keep up in sheer worker production, chrono works as described :p
Only other things to consider is mules stack (T can 1base more effectively) and give immediate payout while chrono eats up more money in the short run while you spend in double-time on probes. Two factors that lead to P FEs getting really punished by 1base T.
On August 07 2011 02:53 Cognizance wrote: 2 Orbitals = 2 contsant MULEs = ~8 constant extra SCVs
But isn't that meant to make up for chronoboost on probes? If Terran didn't have mules they'd always be behind tvp wouldn't they?
No actually they would be on an equal level.
And for your information, 2 mules = 12 SCVs (1 mule = 6).
How would they be equal if protoss always has more harvesters?
wasn't a mule something like 4 scv? and chrono allows you to get 2 probes instead of 1 no? correct me if im wrong
Chrono speeds building time by 33% I think, so if you keep chronoboosting you'll get ahead quickly
2 Chrono = 1 and a bit extra Probes.
Yes, BUT 2 Chrono costs the same amount of energy as 1 mule, and don't forget that you'll essentially have 1 mule for 1 oc the entire game whereas the probes you chronoboost accumulate
On August 07 2011 02:53 Cognizance wrote: 2 Orbitals = 2 contsant MULEs = ~8 constant extra SCVs
I dont know that i remmember that good , but 1 Mule = 6 scv
1 mule = 6 scv mining at the rate of 24+ scv/base. 1 mule = 3.5 scv mining at the rate of 1-16 scv/base.
In this case we had Thorzain mining with 19 scv on 16 patches (he had 12 left) and Socke (he had 28 ? or 32, don't remember, this is the same anyway) with 3 on gaz, so it's 24 probes on 8 patches, which is like only 100mn/minute more than thorzain. And with dual scv (which are on unsaturated bases) he did made up the difference in no time and quickly out-produced him.
On August 07 2011 02:58 Serthius wrote: worst music.
best music.
I can't even tell if LMFAO take themselves seriously, either way they're either hipsters or hipsters pretending they're not hipsters by acting like hipsters 'ironically'.
EPT
