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On August 03 2011 15:13 bbQ4Aiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:10 znowstorm wrote: I respect the player that wins far more than the one who plays "standard" and loses. If you can't beat all ins you shouldn't be in code A. Period.
Great work Ganzi on qualifying for Code A after an amazing MLG weekend. The problem is, this build is almost unbeatable at all level, assuming the Terran and the Protoss has same skill level. Dont tell me the Huk v MMA game, mma messed up so bad.
This is the same for every good build. Until people figure them out...
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tgun is out.
EDIT: Banshee all-ined ._.
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On August 03 2011 15:07 habeck wrote: How did Choya beat Qxc? he is so bad... Look He is atacking immortal with immortals instead of stalkers... both are equally mediorce
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On August 03 2011 15:14 Q8_Devil wrote: lol so many jokes in this thread, they say ganzi all in was stupid while his opponent did the stupid 6 gate against lots and abused the shit out of him with forcefields. deal with it protoss, you are not the only race that can do all ins now.
Lmao, Lots was majorly supply blocked forever and is bad. I have seen 6 gate held off plenty of times by terrans. When was the last time you saw MC do one against a top korean terran?
On August 03 2011 15:15 znowstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:13 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On August 03 2011 15:10 znowstorm wrote: I respect the player that wins far more than the one who plays "standard" and loses. If you can't beat all ins you shouldn't be in code A. Period.
Great work Ganzi on qualifying for Code A after an amazing MLG weekend. The problem is, this build is almost unbeatable at all level, assuming the Terran and the Protoss has same skill level. Dont tell me the Huk v MMA game, mma messed up so bad. This is the same for every good build. Until people figure them out...
Literally no protoss has ever beat this build in GSL when the terran hasn't made a massive mistake and/or waited for an extra five minutes for no reason.
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On August 03 2011 15:14 Heavenly wrote:Why would I care about what you do on ladder? Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:13 Hierarch wrote:On August 03 2011 15:09 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:08 vrok wrote:On August 03 2011 15:07 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:02 babylon wrote:On August 03 2011 14:57 Heavenly wrote: Lol what a complete joke. I've lost all respect for Ganzi for doing this versus protoss every time he might lose a real set. Give the guy a break. He's fucking jetlagged. No? Why would I give him a break? He did what he had to win but he's not going to get any respect from me and I doubt he cares. But this recent trend of every terran doing it in important situations is a joke and unfair to protoss competitors who work just as hard as them to get where they are. His protoss opponents who were just trying to play a solid game should be the ones getting a break, not someone using a retarded build because they're jetlagged. Blame the game or shut up. No? It's a strategy, it's not undefendable and since it's so common it should be expected as soon as you see banshee opening. Obviously his protoss opponent didn't work very hard if he didn't know how to properly respond to a recurring build. Really? Tell me how it is not undefendable if the terran executes it correctly. Please direct me to one game a terran has lost doing this in the GSL where he didn't make an obvious error. Fine you're right. Now please move on and talk about the current games. There are other places to talk about that build.
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Sorry if this was already said but are Boxer and DRG in the same group? Would be a shame for 2 players that are more than qualified not make it
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On August 03 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote: tgun is out. looks like Flash beat JD once again so now Flash better make Code A!
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On August 03 2011 15:10 znowstorm wrote: I respect the player that wins far more than the one who plays "standard" and loses. If you can't beat all ins you shouldn't be in code A. Period.
Great work Ganzi on qualifying for Code A after an amazing MLG weekend. Doesn't help when that all in is unbeatable lol.
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On August 03 2011 15:14 Heavenly wrote:Why would I care about what you do on ladder? Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:13 Hierarch wrote:On August 03 2011 15:09 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:08 vrok wrote:On August 03 2011 15:07 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:02 babylon wrote:On August 03 2011 14:57 Heavenly wrote: Lol what a complete joke. I've lost all respect for Ganzi for doing this versus protoss every time he might lose a real set. Give the guy a break. He's fucking jetlagged. No? Why would I give him a break? He did what he had to win but he's not going to get any respect from me and I doubt he cares. But this recent trend of every terran doing it in important situations is a joke and unfair to protoss competitors who work just as hard as them to get where they are. His protoss opponents who were just trying to play a solid game should be the ones getting a break, not someone using a retarded build because they're jetlagged. Blame the game or shut up. No? It's a strategy, it's not undefendable and since it's so common it should be expected as soon as you see banshee opening. Obviously his protoss opponent didn't work very hard if he didn't know how to properly respond to a recurring build. Really? Tell me how it is not undefendable if the terran executes it correctly. Please direct me to one game a terran has lost doing this in the GSL where he didn't make an obvious error.
It's only just regained popularity in the gsl so I don't have an example, but choya beat jinro at mlg when he was going for it by going stargate.
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On August 03 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote: tgun is out.
EDIT: Banshee all-ined ._. that is sad. at least it was the mighty maru.
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On August 03 2011 15:16 KoTakUEurO wrote:looks like Flash beat JD once again so now Flash better make Code A!
thats an insult to compare those 2 to jaedong/flash! how dare you!
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On August 03 2011 15:16 Pachwa wrote:Sorry if this was already said but are Boxer and DRG in the same group? Would be a shame for 2 players that are more than qualified not make it 
Go back and read the thread. No one knows right now, we will know when the brackets show up
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On August 03 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote: tgun is out.
EDIT: Banshee all-ined ._.
Well now I can root for Lyn in code A. So sad though, he was 1 series away from being the first foriegner to qualify since GSL3
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Ganzi got 4th place at MLG he is code S caliber.
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On August 03 2011 15:17 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:16 KoTakUEurO wrote:On August 03 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote: tgun is out. looks like Flash beat JD once again so now Flash better make Code A! thats an insult to compare those 2 to jaedong/flash! how dare you! oh sorry um how bout Kid JD and Flash playing in their 1st courage when they were unknown
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On August 03 2011 15:16 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 15:14 Heavenly wrote:Why would I care about what you do on ladder? On August 03 2011 15:13 Hierarch wrote:On August 03 2011 15:09 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:08 vrok wrote:On August 03 2011 15:07 Heavenly wrote:On August 03 2011 15:02 babylon wrote:On August 03 2011 14:57 Heavenly wrote: Lol what a complete joke. I've lost all respect for Ganzi for doing this versus protoss every time he might lose a real set. Give the guy a break. He's fucking jetlagged. No? Why would I give him a break? He did what he had to win but he's not going to get any respect from me and I doubt he cares. But this recent trend of every terran doing it in important situations is a joke and unfair to protoss competitors who work just as hard as them to get where they are. His protoss opponents who were just trying to play a solid game should be the ones getting a break, not someone using a retarded build because they're jetlagged. Blame the game or shut up. No? It's a strategy, it's not undefendable and since it's so common it should be expected as soon as you see banshee opening. Obviously his protoss opponent didn't work very hard if he didn't know how to properly respond to a recurring build. Really? Tell me how it is not undefendable if the terran executes it correctly. Please direct me to one game a terran has lost doing this in the GSL where he didn't make an obvious error. It's only just regained popularity in the gsl so I don't have an example, but choya beat jinro at mlg when he was going for it by going stargate.
Yeah, he did an all-in against Jinro, the only one that counters 1-1-1 (and doesn't in all cases, the viking if micro'd properly can hold it off---I've seen plenty of times when this has happened, for example a replay of MC v. Apocalypse, where Apocalypse then went out and rolled MC), and loses to many other things as well. You want PvT to become 1-1-1 all-in and 3gate voidray every game, then?
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On August 03 2011 15:14 Q8_Devil wrote: lol so many jokes in this thread, they say ganzi all in was stupid while his opponent did the stupid 6 gate against lots and abused the shit out of him with forcefields. deal with it protoss, you are not the only race that can do all ins now.
if u spotted 6gates, do can 1. build depo in front of bunkers, build 1-2 more bunkers behind the initial 2 bunkers 2. pull scv in advance and u are pretty much safe.
The problem with the 1-1-1 all-in is, there is nothing u can do to defend.
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On August 03 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote: tgun is out.
EDIT: Banshee all-ined ._.
fml tgun :|
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