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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3801
Caramel is everything I hate about Protoss.

aka, he knows how to play them :x
$♥$
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3802
On August 03 2011 14:33 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:32 KoTakUEurO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:31 Corrik wrote:
On a side note, is anyone buying one of those SlayerS shirts?

im getting one
purely cuz i want them to release jackets lol


How do the Korean sizes work?

idunno have to figure that out
im assuming every 5 is 1 NA size?
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3803
On August 03 2011 14:33 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:32 KoTakUEurO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:31 Corrik wrote:
On a side note, is anyone buying one of those SlayerS shirts?

im getting one
purely cuz i want them to release jackets lol


How do the Korean sizes work?

Depends on who makes the clothes. When I was there it varied, but it was generally like Korean size = American size - 1, like L = american M
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 05:36:14
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3804
Ganzi should have done the 1-1-1 TBH.

2-player map, small rush distance and a wide-open natural that you can easily set-up at.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3805
On August 03 2011 14:35 KoTakUEurO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:33 Corrik wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:32 KoTakUEurO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:31 Corrik wrote:
On a side note, is anyone buying one of those SlayerS shirts?

im getting one
purely cuz i want them to release jackets lol


How do the Korean sizes work?

idunno have to figure that out
im assuming every 5 is 1 NA size?


Not sure. Koreans are usually smaller than us Americans. I wouldn't be surprised if they had more smaller sizes. = /
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 05:37:23
August 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#3806
On August 03 2011 14:31 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:27 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:26 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:24 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:22 bennyaus wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:19 mTw|NarutO wrote:
There you have your counterpart to Terrans 1-1-1 allin. Protoss 1 gate into 6 gate allin. Equally hard to scout / deal with.


or the 3gate/stargate.


I've seen the 6gate and 3gate/stargate held off with plenty more frequency than Terran's 1-1-1. I believe MMA held off Naniwa's 3gate/stargate just by massing marines.


Do you think MMA & Naniwa are the same level?


True. But look at my post, I added more. And that many marines simply denies the Void Rays, so even looking at Naniwa making micro errors, MMA never felt like he was going to just be overwhelmingly overrun like many Protosses look like against 1-1-1.


I've actually never seen a 6 or 7 gate fail in a progame. Or nearly never. Its a really strong allin. I agree that the 1-1-1 is insanely hard to hold if, if not nearly impossible. But I do think most Protoss react wrong to it. You need the robo only for 1 observer and after you need 5 gateways to warp in mass stalker. Try to get as much time as possible and pull your probes if he engages. You need them.

Every 40damage on a probe is no 40damage on a stalker.


6/7 gates have failed before. Off the top of my head, Sage failed one against PuMa in the iCCup weekly a week or so ago, and just GG'd when it was held off. My question to you is, if the 6gate is as powerful as 1-1-1, why don't we see it being used more to great effect? I've seen anyPro, Tassadar, Inca, MC, HuK, Puzzle, and Vines all fall to it recently. Why aren't Protosses doing the same thing to Terrans and winning tons of games against powerful Terran opponents? I'm just not seeing it nearly as often as 1-1-1 lately, so I'm confused as to why it's not used more often. Obviously, all these players want to win, so I don't see why they wouldn't use it more (as often as T 1-1-1's Protoss) if it's as strong as you say...
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 03 2011 05:36 GMT
#3807
On August 03 2011 14:35 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:33 Corrik wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:32 KoTakUEurO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:31 Corrik wrote:
On a side note, is anyone buying one of those SlayerS shirts?

im getting one
purely cuz i want them to release jackets lol


How do the Korean sizes work?

Depends on who makes the clothes. When I was there it varied, but it was generally like Korean size = American size - 1, like L = american M


They are numbers. LIke... 100, 105, 110.
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
August 03 2011 05:36 GMT
#3808
inb4 1-1-1
We march to victory!
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
August 03 2011 05:37 GMT
#3809
oh i just realized, F United is playing tomorrow right?
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 03 2011 05:37 GMT
#3810
On August 03 2011 14:36 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:35 Moonwrath wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:33 Corrik wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:32 KoTakUEurO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:31 Corrik wrote:
On a side note, is anyone buying one of those SlayerS shirts?

im getting one
purely cuz i want them to release jackets lol


How do the Korean sizes work?

Depends on who makes the clothes. When I was there it varied, but it was generally like Korean size = American size - 1, like L = american M


They are numbers. LIke... 100, 105, 110.

Ohh, I didn't see the link for the shirts. In that case I have no idea.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
August 03 2011 05:37 GMT
#3811
On August 03 2011 14:37 nufcrulz wrote:
oh i just realized, F United is playing tomorrow right?

No, their matches are being postponed a week because ThorZaIN and NaNiwa haven't arrived yet.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
August 03 2011 05:38 GMT
#3812
On August 03 2011 14:37 nufcrulz wrote:
oh i just realized, F United is playing tomorrow right?

nope
Nani and TZ haven't even arrived
its slayers vs prime
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 03 2011 05:38 GMT
#3813
On August 03 2011 14:37 nufcrulz wrote:
oh i just realized, F United is playing tomorrow right?


Nope. Tomorrow is SlayerS vs. Prime. F United is playing on the 11th.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
August 03 2011 05:38 GMT
#3814
is it true that boxer and drg are going to be in the same group ? t.t
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 03 2011 05:39 GMT
#3815
On August 03 2011 14:38 doihy wrote:
is it true that boxer and drg are going to be in the same group ? t.t


They are in the same session, there will be three groups in it, we don't know yet which one they are in themselves.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
August 03 2011 05:39 GMT
#3816
Blue flame? no way, more likely to be the same all-in
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2011 05:39 GMT
#3817
On August 03 2011 14:35 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 14:31 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:27 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:26 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:24 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:22 bennyaus wrote:
On August 03 2011 14:19 mTw|NarutO wrote:
There you have your counterpart to Terrans 1-1-1 allin. Protoss 1 gate into 6 gate allin. Equally hard to scout / deal with.


or the 3gate/stargate.


I've seen the 6gate and 3gate/stargate held off with plenty more frequency than Terran's 1-1-1. I believe MMA held off Naniwa's 3gate/stargate just by massing marines.


Do you think MMA & Naniwa are the same level?


True. But look at my post, I added more. And that many marines simply denies the Void Rays, so even looking at Naniwa making micro errors, MMA never felt like he was going to just be overwhelmingly overrun like many Protosses look like against 1-1-1.


I've actually never seen a 6 or 7 gate fail in a progame. Or nearly never. Its a really strong allin. I agree that the 1-1-1 is insanely hard to hold if, if not nearly impossible. But I do think most Protoss react wrong to it. You need the robo only for 1 observer and after you need 5 gateways to warp in mass stalker. Try to get as much time as possible and pull your probes if he engages. You need them.

Every 40damage on a probe is no 40damage on a stalker.


6/7 gates have failed before. Off the top of my head, Sage failed one against PuMa in the iCCup weekly a week or so ago, and just GG'd when it was held off. My question to you is, if the 6gate is as powerful as 1-1-1, why don't we see it being used more to great effect? I've seen anyPro, Tassadar, Inca, MC, HuK, Puzzle, and Vines all fall to it recently. Why aren't Protosses doing the same thing to Terrans and winning tons of games against powerful Terran opponents? I'm just not seeing it nearly as often as 1-1-1 lately, so I'm confused as to why it's not used more often. Obviously, all these players want to win, so I don't see why they wouldn't use it more (as often as T 1-1-1's Protoss) if it's as strong as you say...


I think because a) it is defendable even if its really hard and b) if Protoss wants information on what Terran is doing. The thing is, you have to 1 gate expand to do a really hard 6 gate push and lots of Terrans punish the 1 gate expand with the 1-1-1 allin or semi-allin.

Maybe its because the Protoss players do like their alternatives with mid or lategame, I don't know.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
August 03 2011 05:40 GMT
#3818
caramel going for his trusty timings again. dude is doing everything he can to get into Code A
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 05:41:08
August 03 2011 05:40 GMT
#3819
-- Nevermind. Sick fast banshee and hold position was amazing.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
August 03 2011 05:40 GMT
#3820
lets see if caramel's 4gates 1robo counter the banshee/tank/rines @@, im so excited!
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