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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7261
On July 31 2011 10:24 St0chastic wrote:
"Reqire" *Facepalm*


hahaha I laughed so hard xD
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
ahbon
Profile Joined October 2010
France325 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7262
Idra vs Cruncher

DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7263
On July 31 2011 10:24 iamke55 wrote:
lol @ people criticizing Kiwikaki

"how dare you play less than 100% of your abilities when you have twice your opponent's supply and full upgrades!"

It's TL, we gotta criticize everything.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7264
On July 31 2011 10:21 Courstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:20 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:20 Courstice wrote:
I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?

San, Sage, half of NSHeoSeo.



I don't know who any of them are and I follow the Korean scene a lot. Maybe I completely missed them or they aren't good examples.

Yeah... no. You don't follow the Korean scene at all then.
SaSe fan club manager
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7265
On July 31 2011 10:24 Fiel wrote:
This is available on the MLG website.

Please repost this if you want others to keep track

Schedule for the rest of tonight:

RED:
01:00 GMT (+00:00): Slush vs Rain
02:00 GMT (+00:00): Idra vs Cruncher
03:00 GMT (+00:00): MMA vs Ret
04:00 GMT (+00:00): DRG vs Tyler

BLUE:
01:00 GMT (+00:00): Haypro vs Tyler
02:00 GMT (+00:00): MMA vs Rain
03:00 GMT (+00:00): Idra vs Sjow
04:00 GMT (+00:00): Mvp vs Ganzi


what the fuck, going on till 6am again!?
It appears I have been chosen.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7266
On July 31 2011 10:23 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:19 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:18 wats0n wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:08 Heavenly wrote:
Lol why would he not have like 20 gates at least at that point? Was he eating or something?


Because that's a total waste of resources and apm. I can't stand that Mana style of dropping 20 gates. You can't produce off that many.

It's way more efficient to use a lower number of gates. Only time the mass gates is important is when cooldown is a factor. And considering Kiwi owned the whole map cooldown was not important. He played it correctly.



When you have 7000/3000, you can use 20 gates.

It allows you to trade armies with a terran, then make 100 supply in 30 seconds, enough to overrun them before they can remake their own army.

If you keep production slow, you will take forever to actually finish off terran.


You can use 20 obviously, but the supply cap is still 200. It's stupid to create a ton of useless buildings. That's called a waste. He drops 10+ more gates then the terran hero drops and snipes a couple of his expos then he's broke then what? All so he could have some useless gates? He can maintain 200 supply off his gate count anyway.


He had 7k 3k. If he went broke off of that without facerolling his way to victory he's bronze league. And Kiwikaki is not bronze league.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7267
On July 31 2011 10:19 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:17 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:15 Finrod1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:01 hysterial wrote:

On July 31 2011 09:53 TheHova wrote:
Didn't want to waste my 1000th post, but the Gimix stuff really got to me, i've been watching/playing in lan environments for years and this very rarely happens. So awesome.

This is his clans twitter. They were really excited to reach 100 followers a few days ago. I'm sure it would mean a deal if they got a few more . http://twitter.com/#!/ePClan




They deserve this


Agreed, Gimix is absolutely a class act for that.


What happened?


In the Winners Bracket Ro2, Gimix played WhiteRa but WhiteRa unfortunately turned up 30minutes late. MLG had no choice but to stay consistent and give him a DQ for being late like they have with others in the past. Gimix offered to still play the game but MLG had no choice. Anyway, later down the line WhiteRa meets up with Gimix in the Losers Bracket Ro5 where Gimix had a 2-0 lead because of the extended series rule from the DQ. He wrote to WhiteRa ingame, okay let's do this properly and threw his SCVS into WhiteRa's base to give him the win for game 1 and 2. Essentially making the score 2-2 and a level playing field again.

They've now doubled their amount of followers in less than an hour. Wow.
Faricho
Profile Joined April 2011
Colombia116 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7268
On July 31 2011 10:16 Final1995 wrote:
What ever happened with White-rah that he got DQed for being late?



Yesterday he got knocked to losers open bracket for not showing on time of his game vs epgimix (0-2 loss).

Today he fought his way until he faced epgimix (got knocked later) again but there is a rule that basically starts the game a BO 7 0-2 in favor of epgimix. In a display of sportsmanship, epgimix sends his SCVs to white-ra's base loosing 2 games in row, resetting the series.

Then White-ra thakes the other 2 games
"Critics get shit done and they stand up for quality control and the rights of the consumer. Why people decide to hate on them over some misplaced loyalty that is certainly not reciprocated by the company is entirely beyond me" -TotalBisquit
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7269
On July 31 2011 10:20 turamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:19 Chainfire99 wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:18 Telcontar wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:17 Chainfire99 wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units

TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D

Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't

Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms.
It is known.

It is known.


It is known.


Winter is coming.

A Lannister always pays his debts...

Night gathers, and now my watch begins.

I have the blood of a dragon


You know nothing, Chainfire99.


Rofl it's probably because I've spent 20 of the last 24 hours watching starcraft and reading Song of Ice and Fire but I found this entire thing hilarious... We should probably get back on topic. Go Haypro, Fire and Blood!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7270
On July 31 2011 10:21 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:20 Knightess wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:15 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:14 Scila wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:14 dcemuser wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:13 Zane wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:11 Dommk wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units

TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D

Except EMP's are x20 easier to land than Storms. And Protoss actually has unit formation where as Terran doesn't

Actually EMP's are X23.69 easier to land than Storms.
It is known.

It is known.


It is known.


Winter is coming.

When was that quote "it is known" in the series?

Dany's dothraki bitches.

It is known.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 31 2011 01:25 GMT
#7271
On July 31 2011 10:25 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:24 Fiel wrote:
This is available on the MLG website.

Please repost this if you want others to keep track

Schedule for the rest of tonight:

RED:
01:00 GMT (+00:00): Slush vs Rain
02:00 GMT (+00:00): Idra vs Cruncher
03:00 GMT (+00:00): MMA vs Ret
04:00 GMT (+00:00): DRG vs Tyler

BLUE:
01:00 GMT (+00:00): Haypro vs Tyler
02:00 GMT (+00:00): MMA vs Rain
03:00 GMT (+00:00): Idra vs Sjow
04:00 GMT (+00:00): Mvp vs Ganzi


what the fuck, going on till 6am again!?

Poor Europeans =[
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7272
On July 31 2011 10:24 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:23 wats0n wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:19 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:18 wats0n wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:08 Heavenly wrote:
Lol why would he not have like 20 gates at least at that point? Was he eating or something?


Because that's a total waste of resources and apm. I can't stand that Mana style of dropping 20 gates. You can't produce off that many.

It's way more efficient to use a lower number of gates. Only time the mass gates is important is when cooldown is a factor. And considering Kiwi owned the whole map cooldown was not important. He played it correctly.



When you have 7000/3000, you can use 20 gates.

It allows you to trade armies with a terran, then make 100 supply in 30 seconds, enough to overrun them before they can remake their own army.

If you keep production slow, you will take forever to actually finish off terran.


You can use 20 obviously, but the supply cap is still 200. It's stupid to create a ton of useless buildings. That's called a waste. He drops 10+ more gates then the terran hero drops and snipes a couple of his expos then he's broke then what? All so he could have some useless gates? He can maintain 200 supply off his gate count anyway.

But gets it slower. If Rain had been alittle less behind or better at Macro he may have been able to hit a timing while Kiwi only had collossi and a couple zealots.


Rain was not playing.

As I already said cooldown wasn't a factor because he owned the entire map and had vision everywhere. He knew he could maintain 200/200 off his gates. He had about 15.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7273
Who is Caliber206?
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7274
On July 31 2011 10:25 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:24 iamke55 wrote:
lol @ people criticizing Kiwikaki

"how dare you play less than 100% of your abilities when you have twice your opponent's supply and full upgrades!"

It's TL, we gotta criticize everything.

How dare you using the smiley MAN UP and do some real smiley god sakes!!!
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Courstice
Profile Joined May 2011
United States473 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7275
On July 31 2011 10:23 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:20 Courstice wrote:
I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?


Other than Nestea, and MAYBE Losira and July, have there been any successful Zerg players in Korea?


No need to reply all snarky like that. I'm T and was just asking an honest question. But you also raise a good point. Are there any other good Z players other than them?
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7276
Something I'd like to ask:

Who the hell is Caliber206?

WBR1: Loses 2-1 to MajOr
LBR1: 2-0
LBR2: 2-0
LBR3: 2-1
LBR4: 2-0 Skew
LBR5: 2-0 STX
LBR6: 2-1 ViBE

Fucking baller.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7277
On July 31 2011 10:25 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:22 SoraLimit wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:20 Boozerr wrote:
We need more kpop.



No, save that for the GSL. Besides, Gee is old now, Roly-Poly is the thing now apparently.

No, it's more like Gee is the thing you play when a friend of yours asks "what's kpop?"

Kpop is ruining ESPORTS!

f that, generic metal is ruining esports!
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 31 2011 01:26 GMT
#7278
On July 31 2011 10:24 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:23 Witten wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:20 Courstice wrote:
I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?


Other than Nestea, and MAYBE Losira and July, have there been any successful Zerg players in Korea?

DRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


He's very successful with his zero championships .

I mean, so far. Give it a year.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
July 31 2011 01:27 GMT
#7279
On July 31 2011 10:11 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:06 sunman1g wrote:
Kiwikaki: A+move + Spam T
MooNan: stim, EMP templars, scoot and shoot, spread units

TvP late game battle are so funny from the micro point of view :D

Just like Broodwar if you ask me.

One side microing a lot more and the other macroing a lot more.

Although it is a lot less extreme of a difference in SC2.


I don't think anyone legitimately pretends that Protoss is mechanically demanding, but watching top level protoss (mainly MC comes to mind) use clutch Sentry forcefields and Phoenix harass is pretty impressive (NASL Grand Final vs Puma = wow). If the Protoss player screws up their forcefields it will easily lose them the game on the spot or put them behind in the engagement. But conversely, good forcefields will make engagements that look like the Protoss player should lose come out even, or even on top.

Overall the deathball style just doesn't require as much micro. Zealots in front, 1 a+click, forcefields to split the army as much as possible, move the injured colossus back from vikings/press T and storm the trapped army (depending on if you're using colo. deathball or templar).
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
July 31 2011 01:27 GMT
#7280
On July 31 2011 10:24 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 10:23 Witten wrote:
On July 31 2011 10:20 Courstice wrote:
I feel IdrA makes a good point on Koreans being bad Tosses. Other than MC and MAYBE Puzzle and Alicia, have there been any successful Protoss players in Korea?


Other than Nestea, and MAYBE Losira and July, have there been any successful Zerg players in Korea?

Zenio
edit- ensnare

Ensnare isn't even Zerg and when has Zenio been succesful?
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