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On July 31 2011 05:21 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote:
Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything.
It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. It's a usual DT-expand.... And the DTs give you time, there is no way you get attacked when they are out. And even if you can just make Archons. It is in no way an all-in.
Usual DT expand doesn't get 3 DTs and zero anything else that early, unless we're talking diamond league strategy ^^
It wasn't a DT expand. It was a blatant DT rush with a fast Nexus built (probably just so Jinro could scout it and feel somewhat safer). There was no value in that Nexus whatsoever, zero chance to saturate and protect it if Jinro had been prepared for DTs.
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On July 31 2011 05:18 Whole wrote:
Why are people calling a DT expand cheese?
You're right its not cheese vs Terran
DT Expand is Cheese Vs Zerg though..
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On July 31 2011 05:18 FrankWalls wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote:On July 31 2011 05:16 Piski wrote:On July 31 2011 05:15 Benjef wrote:
Cheese ftw I guess? How is that cheese? He expanded faster than Jinro :f Jinro with bad scouting. It sucks but dont blame Choya Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything. It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. the dts are what makes it safe to expand lol.
ya...you can use the dts to defend easily too if the attack doesn't work...he's not gonna have unlimited scans
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On July 31 2011 05:20 Ryuu2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:16 Piski wrote:On July 31 2011 05:15 Benjef wrote:
Cheese ftw I guess? How is that cheese? He expanded faster than Jinro :f Jinro with bad scouting. It sucks but dont blame Choya Choya did a 1gate expand DIRECTLY into dt's, he had like 2 units if jinro had used ANY kind of pressure choya wouldve just died. Choya took a huuuge risk and it paid of. but that had nothing to do with skill O.O
After scouting a no gas expand?
It was a smart response. I'm not a Choya fan, but it was a good decision.
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On July 31 2011 05:21 grush57 wrote:
Guys, dont blame Choya. It's not his fault that a unit can instantly win you the game, its how Protoss was designed.
haha true dat
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On July 31 2011 05:21 grush57 wrote:
Guys, dont blame Choya. It's not his fault that a unit can instantly win you the game, its how Protoss was designed.
so does banshees. sup?
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On July 31 2011 05:20 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:19 Zorgaz wrote:On July 31 2011 05:18 FrankWalls wrote:On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote:On July 31 2011 05:16 Piski wrote:On July 31 2011 05:15 Benjef wrote:
Cheese ftw I guess? How is that cheese? He expanded faster than Jinro :f Jinro with bad scouting. It sucks but dont blame Choya Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything. It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. the dts are what makes it safe to expand lol. Yeah, but Toss still has the dirty units. DT's and Voidrays so dirty imo xd >  If it doesn't come from a Gateway or Robo it's cheese, duh.
Observers are cheese too, gateway units only
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On July 31 2011 05:19 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:18 FrankWalls wrote:On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote:On July 31 2011 05:16 Piski wrote:On July 31 2011 05:15 Benjef wrote:
Cheese ftw I guess? How is that cheese? He expanded faster than Jinro :f Jinro with bad scouting. It sucks but dont blame Choya Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything. It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. the dts are what makes it safe to expand lol. Yeah, but Toss still has the dirty units. DT's and Voidrays so dirty imo xd >
I have a feeling your a terran player and so banshees/BFH (especially this mlg LOL) arn't dirty units?
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Hopefully Incontrol gets crushed.
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What's up with the Maybelline commercial? Do they not know who the audience for an MLG is?
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On July 31 2011 05:18 Canucklehead wrote:
Damn poor jinro. Pain user is right - dts > banshee! Instant gg with no ebay! Oh well go choya!! Hope he beats tyler to make it into the group stage!
Yes, because cloaked banshees without a robo isn't a GG right?
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So DT expand is cheese now?
And somehow going void ray expand is more cheesey than the terran player's marine/banshee/tank all-in he was preparing?
Please take your opinions to the blizzard forums or actually analyze the games.
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DTs are not cheese at all. Even if they can't deal damage against a base well defended by turrets, a terran always have a tough time attacking protoss with dts out on the map. They have limited scans while Protoss can warp in DTs 1 at a time to chip down the army. Choya expanded behind his pressure and Jinro didn't have much to punish him even if he had the detection.
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On July 31 2011 05:22 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:20 TooN wrote:
Bronze players calling dt build cheese lol.... it makes it safe to expand. the terrran wont move out of their base without detection. And if Jinro had done any pressure he would have killed him, how is that not cheesy? "Gosh I hope he wont poke at me for ages so I can get DTs up KEKEKEKKE"
"Gosh I hope he doesn't make a very commonly made unit at all so I can get my expand up without getting any detect up KEKEKEKE"
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On July 31 2011 05:18 Probe1 wrote:
Well I've learned so far that every opening by Protoss that doesn't put them behind Terran is cheese. Also winning is cheese. Also phone commercials with muppets are cheese.
Don't forget spray cheese, that is also cheese.
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On July 31 2011 05:20 FXOpen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:18 Ertu wrote:
Thanx FXO for bringing this guy over to provide entertaining games. -_-
I hate this guy so much,I hope the fans at MLG treat him like they should. Ase re, ti mou les. Den itan cheese... eleos.... Guy goes FE what 1 gate dts? and you guys are all slagging on him. Jinro has a problem with his early game, and choya does a harass and Jinro GG's out. And some how one of the nicest people in the world is to blame.... Ante...
Don't listen to the idiots, boss. Choya played a good game. Truthfully, I was rooting for Jinro, but not because I don't like Choya. Jinro didn't prepare properly and Choya took advantage of it like the good player that he is. Good games, and thanks for bringing him out to the States, boss! Good luck to all the FXO players!
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On July 31 2011 05:23 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:19 Zorgaz wrote:On July 31 2011 05:18 FrankWalls wrote:On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote:On July 31 2011 05:16 Piski wrote:On July 31 2011 05:15 Benjef wrote:
Cheese ftw I guess? How is that cheese? He expanded faster than Jinro :f Jinro with bad scouting. It sucks but dont blame Choya Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything. It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. the dts are what makes it safe to expand lol. Yeah, but Toss still has the dirty units. DT's and Voidrays so dirty imo xd > I have a feeling your a terran player and so banshees/BFH (especially this mlg LOL) arn't dirty units?
BFH aren't dirty units, and I play zerg.
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On July 31 2011 05:19 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:18 Whole wrote:
Why are people calling a DT expand cheese? Because it wasn't a DT expand.
It kindof was lol
Choya didn't need much of an army b/c he scouted gasless expand. If Jinro would have thrown down 3 more barracks and pulled all scv's then it would have been a successful mindgame cheese. So all Choya's build was was a greedy expand into harrass b/c he took a good guess what Jinro was doing.
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On July 31 2011 05:23 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:21 TheKefka wrote:On July 31 2011 05:20 FXOpen wrote:On July 31 2011 05:18 Ertu wrote:
Thanx FXO for bringing this guy over to provide entertaining games. -_-
I hate this guy so much,I hope the fans at MLG treat him like they should. Ase re, ti mou les. Den itan cheese... eleos.... Guy goes FE what 1 gate dts? and you guys are all slagging on him. Jinro has a problem with his early game, and choya does a harass and Jinro GG's out. And some how one of the nicest people in the world is to blame.... Ante... O o Boss bustin out the French, Don't bother man,trolls gonna be trolls. + Show Spoiler +I hope its french because if not i just made myself look like an ass Greek
I was pretty far off than
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If Jinro had beaten Choya with a Banshee FE because Choya had no detection due to not scouting it, people would be fine. So biased, it's pathetic really, and I hate Protoss.
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