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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 Poopi wrote: HongUn is not a mediocre protoss at all lol. He has a very good PvZ and has raped MC like it was easy. Him beating MC was because of MC played bad rather than HongUn playing really good. HongUn is still decent, but there are a lot of Protoss better than him. | ||
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Tommie
China658 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 babysimba wrote: Stargate play will never work on a zerg who knows how to drone that well. Protoss players need to start playing stargates with bisu/sage style instead of following up with a timing attack. Stargate harrassments work so much better when you have ground units killing queens and spores. I think you are right. Did you see Tester's games? | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 Drygioni wrote: I also think it's worth noting that when he lost to MVP one of the games was on close positions old shakuras, so that game wasn't really fair. Also blistering sands. Nestea has lost before, otherwise he'd soon to be 9th time champion. Even the gods get hurt sometime. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:54 Flowjo wrote: REALLY? Cause mc has never won against decent Zergs with 3base + hmmmm It's impossible. Protoss have to go all-in every PvZ if they want to win. It is known. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 Taf the Ghost wrote: He would have seen the Gates, though, on his scouting and gone heavy roach. HongUn isn't hiding enough tech to concern Nestea to play a non-safe, super macro game. In PvZ, if a Protoss wants to Forge FE like that, they've gotta play it more like TvZ, where you go all the way to the "deathball" style, making it very hard to break. And Hong Un made one huge defensive mistake in leaving the path from the natural to the third completely clear. He made a wall on the far side but let Zerg just walk in his front door. | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 SKaysc wrote: Gskill needs to change their poster with Tester/FD/Clide to just Clide, that, or blur out the TSL on their jersey yeah because they sponsor the players and not the team....  | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
but is anyone else just enjoying tuning in to see how nestea is suddenly destroying who he thought he might be weak to? | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:58 ilbh wrote: Broodlords don't attack, they shot broodlings, who does the MELEE attacks. You're an idiot. Broodlords fling broodlings, which deal initial 20 + 2per up FLYER DAMAGE. Broodlings do their individual damage afterwards. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 Poopi wrote: HongUn is not a mediocre protoss at all lol. He has a very good PvZ and has raped MC like it was easy. Uhh, regardless of how good hongun's PvZ is, which I don't think is "very good", he's far far far far below nestea and that's a fact everyone can agree on so pointing at these games and looking for places to whine is a pretty stupid idea. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:55 RogerChillingworth wrote: It IS balance discussion. Just because you can't play defensively and make cannons and templar, doesn't mean it can't be done. FYI: you're watching the best zerg [and player] in the world vs. a mediocre protoss. Yea,he is the best zerg because he is smart.Hongun is a player that does the same tactic over and over and Nestea just exploits it.He is skipping speed early(which if Hongun was smart he would exploit it),Nestea is just making so many cuts in the play to get so far ahead because Hongun is letting him to do that.If the toss would have 6 gated him the last game the zerg would be dead.But again Nestea actually scouts and reacts unlike Hongun. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:57 Sc2Null wrote: best nestea practices against fxo...right? I dont' think nestea likes to show his strategies in practice/ladder games. Most the games we see out of him are this weird composition...Who here has ever gone zergling/infestor/baneling against chargelot/archon. Also, MC is probably shaking his head saying.."that coulda been me getting destroyed" ...that's what I said. Unless you were talking to the originator of the quote chain. | ||
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:56 cENTRYZ wrote: We don't get to see alot of ZvZ. I for one, would LOVE to see a ZvZ between the two best zergs in the world, in a bo7. Idk, I think DRG might be better than Losira by a little, but he hasn't had as much exposure so it's hard to tell. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:57 DystopiaX wrote: So what you're saying is that Hongun should proxygate him...lol What he"s saying is that Hongun needs to turtle and macro more. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:57 Ribbon wrote: The GSL crowds have been growing in size and volume for the last few weeks. I think MLG and NASL finals hurt their Korean pride, and now they're stepping it up. whenever nestea plays, the crowds are usually that big. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong747 Posts
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DonaldLee
586 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hey everyone. I think we can all at least agree that HongUn vs Nestea > Inca vs Nestea right? Well Inca just played bad. HongUn on the other hand is not, Nestea is just on a whole another level. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:55 RogerChillingworth wrote: It IS balance discussion. Just because you can't play defensively and make cannons and templar, doesn't mean it can't be done. FYI: you're watching the best zerg [and player] in the world vs. a mediocre protoss. A mediocre protoss doesnt get to round of 4. A mediocre protoss doesnt beat MC last round. | ||
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
On July 25 2011 18:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hey everyone. I think we can all at least agree that HongUn vs Nestea > Inca vs Nestea right? No doubt, HongUn at least has some pretty solid stuff, he's just getting mauled. Inca it was over within minutes. | ||
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
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