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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1021
On July 25 2011 18:52 DisaFear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:51 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
so mcuh people in the audience, what happened? what has happened as of late?

either way, GG.


NesTea happened


The GSL crowds have been growing in size and volume for the last few weeks. I think MLG and NASL finals hurt their Korean pride, and now they're stepping it up.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1022
On July 25 2011 18:56 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:54 koolaid1990 wrote:
Nestea literally went pure drones and got his lair like 10 minutes into the game....
any composition without harass would have still won the game because hongun went voidray/pheonix which was stopped easily. If the toss 6gated, it would have been harder to stop


He would have seen the Gates, though, on his scouting and gone heavy roach. HongUn isn't hiding enough tech to concern Nestea to play a non-safe, super macro game.

In PvZ, if a Protoss wants to Forge FE like that, they've gotta play it more like TvZ, where you go all the way to the "deathball" style, making it very hard to break.

So what you're saying is that Hongun should proxygate him...lol
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1023
Protoss need to stop doing these forge expand into really fast stargate, Zerg has figured out how to defend it too well and get way ahead
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1024
On July 25 2011 18:55 dennistoo wrote:
HongUh doesn't deserved to be in the semi-final. It just make Nestea vs HongUn a one sided game. How i wish it is MC vs Nestea. That would be epic and run of the money for Nestea.


MC played terrible and deserved to lose. Just like how badly Zenio played. Also Supernova's fault for forgetting how to play the game in the middle of his match.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1025
On July 25 2011 18:55 dennistoo wrote:
HongUh doesn't deserved to be in the semi-final. It just make Nestea vs HongUn a one sided game. How i wish it is MC vs Nestea. That would be epic and run of the money for Nestea.




...

hongun is playing well, but nestea is on another level.

if mc wanted to be in the semi-final, maybe he should've focused on beating hongun rather than ignoring hongun and focusing on nestea.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1026
On July 25 2011 18:55 DystopiaX wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:54 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:52 IceSlipper wrote:
why oh why didnt they send him out vs qxc! i know he was preparing for the individual tournament but surely he still could have rolled fxo without revealing anything! guy is just a boss..


FXOBoSS said on Choya's stream that QXC beats Nestea in practice and that he didn't expect IM to send NesTea out.

ehhh....I think any pro/decent player can occasionally take games off anyone else but in a tourney setting it's probably different. Also consider on ladder that Nestea probably isn't showing his best strats cause you don't want to reveal those to the world.


best nestea practices against fxo...right?

I dont' think nestea likes to show his strategies in practice/ladder games. Most the games we see out of him are this weird composition...Who here has ever gone zergling/infestor/baneling against chargelot/archon.

Also, MC is probably shaking his head saying.."that coulda been me getting destroyed"
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1027
On July 25 2011 18:56 Poopi wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:55 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:54 TheKefka wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:52 frucisky wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:51 Skyze wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:50 Yew wrote:
This is why you see so many 6 gates vs. Zerg lol.


Exactly. People dont understand WHY 4gate and FE 6gate is so common, but if you DONT do that, you basically have no chance vs a decent zerg in the mid-late game.



God please keep the balance discussion out >.<


This is not a balance discussion,that was stating a fact.You have to go almost allin against a mid game zerg that is about to start massing infestors or mutas.


It IS balance discussion. Just because you can't play defensively and make cannons and templar, doesn't mean it can't be done.

FYI: you're watching the best zerg [and player] in the world vs. a mediocre protoss.

HongUn is not a mediocre protoss at all lol.
He has a very good PvZ and has raped MC like it was easy.


HongUn is mediocre.
he basically did no harassment, letting droning neastea all game long.


tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
July 25 2011 09:57 GMT
#1028
On July 25 2011 18:52 Ertu wrote:
I'm sorry,but this was super sloppy by Nestea. He was just streaming banelings into Archons,and he won because Honhun could not macro a decent army.


I guess you're not really paying attention or know how the game works, but when you have the clear macro advantage and can lay a killing blow with the units you have, regardless of "unit counters", you do it, so he did.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1029
On July 25 2011 18:54 Hierarch wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:52 Ketch wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
+2 flyer attack, preparing for broods at a guess


Broodlords do not benefit from flyer attacks, only from flyer carapace. Also, broodlings are affected by melee upgrades.


The broodlord attack is called broodling strike and it does 20 damage, each time a broodlord launches the broodling at something the impact of the broodling hitting does the 20 damage, each + flier attack gives +2 damage.

Broodlords don't attack, they shot broodlings, who does the MELEE attacks.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1030
On July 25 2011 18:56 Kommander wrote:
So far with what I have seen, MC is the only Korean protoss that can go toe-to-toe with Zergs in macro games.


Which is weird because it's hard to be a protoss "macro god" because all you can do is chronoboost probes and make one after another, yet he seems to almost always match zerg drone counts. Maybe it'd be different if he was facing Nestea.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1031
On July 25 2011 18:53 DonaldLee wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:51 cENTRYZ wrote:
NesTea just making some stuff, defendig some stuff, rolling over some stuff. I can't see anyone win vs NesTea in the finals, bo7.


I think the only player he's even lost a Bo5 to has been MVP.


Andddddd Rain.

LOL, damn how can you forget about him?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1032
On July 25 2011 18:55 zeehar wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:52 Ertu wrote:
I'm sorry,but this was super sloppy by Nestea. He was just streaming banelings into Archons,and he won because Honhun could not macro a decent army.


kinda hard to macro when lings are constantly in your mineral lines and your nexuses are getting sniped...

It also doesn't matter if you don't micro when you have 4 bases and Hongun can't get a third up.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1033
On July 25 2011 18:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:54 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:52 IceSlipper wrote:
why oh why didnt they send him out vs qxc! i know he was preparing for the individual tournament but surely he still could have rolled fxo without revealing anything! guy is just a boss..


FXOBoSS said on Choya's stream that QXC beats Nestea in practice and that he didn't expect IM to send NesTea out.

But Nestea admitted that he messes around all the time in practice and on the ladder to feign weakness. If you remember before the Nestea sCfOu games, sC was like... I beat Nestea all the time on the ladder. I think he'll be really easy. Then after the games sC said it was like facing a completely different person


This. Nestea would never show his true strength in practice or on ladder. It would just be unfair for everyone.
secret - never again
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1034
On July 25 2011 18:57 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:52 DisaFear wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:51 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
so mcuh people in the audience, what happened? what has happened as of late?

either way, GG.


NesTea happened


The GSL crowds have been growing in size and volume for the last few weeks. I think MLG and NASL finals hurt their Korean pride, and now they're stepping it up.


It's also summer and the GSL is getting bigger with more recognition.
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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1035
On July 25 2011 18:56 cENTRYZ wrote:
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On July 25 2011 18:55 King.Crimson wrote:
Please oh please don't let it be ZvZ final. But i guess that would be fitting, considering the history of GSL finals.. :/

We don't get to see alot of ZvZ. I for one, would LOVE to see a ZvZ between the two best zergs in the world, in a bo7.


Why do you hate everyone? ZvZ finals is the worst thing you can wish on anyone.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1036
Nestea is so OP
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1037
When you play a zerg like Nestea as protoss, you should always have a sentry by every nexus to forcefield wall-off your sim city. How many games does NesTea win just because he has great zergling harass when the P is on 3+ bases. Or, wall off completely each base.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 09:59:08
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1038
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blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1039
since nestea is the god of zvz, it pretty much makes him unstoppable in tournaments.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
July 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#1040
On July 25 2011 18:57 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:52 DisaFear wrote:
On July 25 2011 18:51 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
so mcuh people in the audience, what happened? what has happened as of late?

either way, GG.


NesTea happened


The GSL crowds have been growing in size and volume for the last few weeks. I think MLG and NASL finals hurt their Korean pride, and now they're stepping it up.


its called summer break -.-
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