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[GSL] July Code S SemiFinals - Page 138
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Elurie
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote: Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well. Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:44 Dante08 wrote: Wow your logic is so retarded. People want to see the highest level of games possible. One way is to give ample time for players to prepare builds. Its not GOM's fault that one player cant outplay another when they have the same time to prepare.What would you suggest then? GSL every single day, and a season finishes in 2 weeks? Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:44 TheKefka wrote: I'm not a expert on ZvZ but i think it evolved past ling/bane and roach. Its all about infestors now. It's all about mutas and spines on large maps now. Infestors-based army becomes a liability instead when attacking into a shitload of spines, while the defending side only need a infestor or 2 to support the spines. I predict at least muta vs muta zvz game if losira has the intention to play a macro game or 2. | ||
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DrunkenTemplar
Australia647 Posts
Yeah I really hope zerg crying stops for a while now, it was pretty unbearable after MC vs July finals | ||
Poopi
France12873 Posts
Haven't you seen his wrists in GSTL? :/ | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:51 tdt wrote: Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim. and the last MLG finals was one sided..... so...... | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
Um, DRG. | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?) | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
If anything, it's P and T that have been imba whining the last 2 months in LR threads about fungal. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
 At least qxc got'em. On July 25 2011 20:52 Eufouria wrote: Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?) That's pretty accurate. | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:45 Heavenly wrote: Lol, Byun was constantly dropping when he could and any significant pressure that protoss puts on is an all-in, or is deflected by sporecrawlers. Why are you acting like zergs somehow practice harder than all terrans and protoss? They just discovered the timings of any effective push finally, the most effective ones got nerfed, and now zergs know exactly when to drone to get a big lead, exactly like what happened in Nestea v Hongun. If all the best BW players came to SC2, the zerg players would be unstoppable just like Nestea seems. There are just too many game design flaws. Not even a balance whine, hopefully the design team noticed a lot of stupid things going on in the game that can be easily improved. Protoss in China has been having a lot of success doing what many people would call an all-in, consisting of mass blink stalkers into a 3rd while opening up to tech options. Terrans have variety of different openings that indirectly constrains the zerg on their mobility and somewhat "control" what their opponent can do. For example, hellions gives the terran a lot of map control, which gives the terran an element of surprise and allow him to put indirect pressure. Going reaper opening makes sure that the zerg does not overdrone and can also give map control. Doing technical timing attacks that exploit drone and tech timings of the zerg also forces you to put pressure, regardless of whether you completely commit to the attack or just pull back after doing soft pressure. Truth is, top zergs are ahead of the metagame curve right now and terrans and protoss DO need to work harder in order to catch up. Also to your BW players comment, Flash can come to sc2 and play terran and will still rape. Nestea is just doing things that people are not used to seeing. He is what you call someone "ahead" of the curve, much like savior was when he was in his prime. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:52 Eufouria wrote: Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?) Troll on son! :D Really lookin forward to the finals. We gonna see the world bests Zergs duking it out <3 | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
Saturday is going to be a great day. Wake up to GSL finals with Tasteless and then after it's time to watch MLG. :Edit: So Infestors were barely used tonight, Broodlords just plain weren't. I find both of these units under-represented and should be buffed to accommodate for this. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:51 tdt wrote: Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim. And in my opinion that lowers the level of play because when you get to the finals you'll be very tired | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:53 SafeAsCheese wrote: If anything, it's P and T that have been imba whining the last 2 months in LR threads about fungal. It's not whining, it's just making humorous references to the 8 months of Zerg despair and outrage that have plagued every sc2 forums. | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:50 Asha` wrote: Why are people hating on a ZvZ finals so much? It's going to be between arguably the 2 best players in the match up (Zenio has higher elo, Losira has a better winrate though), it's very tense to watch, both players know each other well so the chances of something new being needed are pretty high, and there's a lot more flexibility in midgame compositions lately with lategame continuing to be explored. I'm actually really looking forward to it o-o I agree. Even if it's not close and one player outlcasses another, it'll still be some of the highest level ZvZ we've seen yet. | ||
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