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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 25 2011 11:50 GMT
#2741
I think Losira has a chance, he has that frantic risky style. Probably will come down to Nestea's response to it. I'd like to see Nydus.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
July 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#2742
I like new winners. I guess I am rooting for Losira then? heh
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#2743
On July 25 2011 20:46 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:43 LeLfe wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:34 LeLfe wrote:
Nestea - Losira in GSL finals while Mvp wins MLG
IM hwaiting!



I'm too good :<

Except that Mvp won't win MLG


Blasphemy
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#2744
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x
Moderator
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#2745
On July 25 2011 20:44 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:38 tdt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:35 labbe wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:33 zeru wrote:
Not a single good game the whole semi finals. Are you kidding me. GSL needs to change their tournament format or something. This is not working. Depressinggggg.

Haha, are you seriously blaming the GSL for the quiality of the games. That's completely out of their hands. There's nothing wrong with the format.

No it's not. You give a week to prepare you get blowouts. It's no accident GSTL is so much better.

Not to mention BO1's at beginning at beginning get rid of late starters and adaptive players.

GSL is a terrible format.


Wow your logic is so retarded. People want to see the highest level of games possible. One way is to give ample time for players to prepare builds. Its not GOM's fault that one player cant outplay another when they have the same time to prepare.What would you suggest then? GSL every single day, and a season finishes in 2 weeks?

Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim.
MC for president
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
July 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#2746
On July 25 2011 20:44 TheKefka wrote:
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On July 25 2011 20:43 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
Argh ZvZ final I really really hope this doesnt come down solely to baneling wars


I'm not a expert on ZvZ but i think it evolved past ling/bane and roach.
Its all about infestors now.


It's all about mutas and spines on large maps now. Infestors-based army becomes a liability instead when attacking into a shitload of spines, while the defending side only need a infestor or 2 to support the spines. I predict at least muta vs muta zvz game if losira has the intention to play a macro game or 2.
DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
July 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#2747
On July 25 2011 20:51 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x


Yeah I really hope zerg crying stops for a while now, it was pretty unbearable after MC vs July finals
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12992 Posts
July 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#2748
On July 25 2011 20:51 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:46 Poopi wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:43 LeLfe wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:34 LeLfe wrote:
Nestea - Losira in GSL finals while Mvp wins MLG
IM hwaiting!



I'm too good :<

Except that Mvp won't win MLG


Blasphemy

Haven't you seen his wrists in GSTL? :/
WriterMaru
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
July 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#2749
On July 25 2011 20:51 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:44 Dante08 wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:38 tdt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:35 labbe wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:33 zeru wrote:
Not a single good game the whole semi finals. Are you kidding me. GSL needs to change their tournament format or something. This is not working. Depressinggggg.

Haha, are you seriously blaming the GSL for the quiality of the games. That's completely out of their hands. There's nothing wrong with the format.

No it's not. You give a week to prepare you get blowouts. It's no accident GSTL is so much better.

Not to mention BO1's at beginning at beginning get rid of late starters and adaptive players.

GSL is a terrible format.


Wow your logic is so retarded. People want to see the highest level of games possible. One way is to give ample time for players to prepare builds. Its not GOM's fault that one player cant outplay another when they have the same time to prepare.What would you suggest then? GSL every single day, and a season finishes in 2 weeks?

Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim.


and the last MLG finals was one sided..... so......
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#2750
On July 25 2011 20:51 LeLfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:46 Poopi wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:43 LeLfe wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:34 LeLfe wrote:
Nestea - Losira in GSL finals while Mvp wins MLG
IM hwaiting!



I'm too good :<

Except that Mvp won't win MLG


Blasphemy


Um, DRG.
ffxiv enjoyer
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#2751
On July 25 2011 20:51 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x

Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?)
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:53:29
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#2752
You guys sure bring up idra a lot for someone you think so lowly of his opinion, it's kinda haterish

If anything, it's P and T that have been imba whining the last 2 months in LR threads about fungal.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:53:58
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#2753
I don't mind the Zerg fest, but I do mind the IM fest in the finals.

At least qxc got'em.

On July 25 2011 20:52 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:51 Beyonder wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x

Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?)


That's pretty accurate.
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#2754
Why so one sided?TT
Trance music makes the fairys dance
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#2755
On July 25 2011 20:45 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:38 WindCalibur wrote:
Terrans and Protoss better start practicing harder and try to catch up. Clearly, allowing the zerg to drone up too hard (aka no apparent pressure) or doing risky builds that has holes everywhere is not the way to do it.


Lol, Byun was constantly dropping when he could and any significant pressure that protoss puts on is an all-in, or is deflected by sporecrawlers. Why are you acting like zergs somehow practice harder than all terrans and protoss? They just discovered the timings of any effective push finally, the most effective ones got nerfed, and now zergs know exactly when to drone to get a big lead, exactly like what happened in Nestea v Hongun. If all the best BW players came to SC2, the zerg players would be unstoppable just like Nestea seems.

There are just too many game design flaws. Not even a balance whine, hopefully the design team noticed a lot of stupid things going on in the game that can be easily improved.


Protoss in China has been having a lot of success doing what many people would call an all-in, consisting of mass blink stalkers into a 3rd while opening up to tech options. Terrans have variety of different openings that indirectly constrains the zerg on their mobility and somewhat "control" what their opponent can do. For example, hellions gives the terran a lot of map control, which gives the terran an element of surprise and allow him to put indirect pressure. Going reaper opening makes sure that the zerg does not overdrone and can also give map control. Doing technical timing attacks that exploit drone and tech timings of the zerg also forces you to put pressure, regardless of whether you completely commit to the attack or just pull back after doing soft pressure.

Truth is, top zergs are ahead of the metagame curve right now and terrans and protoss DO need to work harder in order to catch up.

Also to your BW players comment, Flash can come to sc2 and play terran and will still rape. Nestea is just doing things that people are not used to seeing. He is what you call someone "ahead" of the curve, much like savior was when he was in his prime.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
July 25 2011 11:54 GMT
#2756
On July 25 2011 20:52 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:51 Beyonder wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x

Zerg is still worse. Losira and Nestea just work harder, and play much better than everyone else to overcome the huge deficit between Zerg and the other races. (amidoingitrite?)

Troll on son! :D

Really lookin forward to the finals. We gonna see the world bests Zergs duking it out <3
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:58:59
July 25 2011 11:54 GMT
#2757
I think everyone knows how good NesTea's ZvZ is, but LosirA is also pretty outstanding at the match-up. I don't think it will be the 4-0 everyone else think it will be, I predict a close match but I cannot say who will win as I thought LosirA's ZvT was horrendous, yet look what just happened.

Saturday is going to be a great day. Wake up to GSL finals with Tasteless and then after it's time to watch MLG.

:Edit: So Infestors were barely used tonight, Broodlords just plain weren't. I find both of these units under-represented and should be buffed to accommodate for this.
Hmmm
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
July 25 2011 11:55 GMT
#2758
On July 25 2011 20:51 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:44 Dante08 wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:38 tdt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:35 labbe wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:33 zeru wrote:
Not a single good game the whole semi finals. Are you kidding me. GSL needs to change their tournament format or something. This is not working. Depressinggggg.

Haha, are you seriously blaming the GSL for the quiality of the games. That's completely out of their hands. There's nothing wrong with the format.

No it's not. You give a week to prepare you get blowouts. It's no accident GSTL is so much better.

Not to mention BO1's at beginning at beginning get rid of late starters and adaptive players.

GSL is a terrible format.


Wow your logic is so retarded. People want to see the highest level of games possible. One way is to give ample time for players to prepare builds. Its not GOM's fault that one player cant outplay another when they have the same time to prepare.What would you suggest then? GSL every single day, and a season finishes in 2 weeks?

Pretty much. MLG does it in 3 days with a double elimination. GSL milks it for a month with single elim.


And in my opinion that lowers the level of play because when you get to the finals you'll be very tired
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 25 2011 11:55 GMT
#2759
On July 25 2011 20:53 SafeAsCheese wrote:
If anything, it's P and T that have been imba whining the last 2 months in LR threads about fungal.


It's not whining, it's just making humorous references to the 8 months of Zerg despair and outrage that have plagued every sc2 forums.
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
July 25 2011 11:56 GMT
#2760
On July 25 2011 20:50 Asha` wrote:
Why are people hating on a ZvZ finals so much?

It's going to be between arguably the 2 best players in the match up (Zenio has higher elo, Losira has a better winrate though), it's very tense to watch, both players know each other well so the chances of something new being needed are pretty high, and there's a lot more flexibility in midgame compositions lately with lategame continuing to be explored.

I'm actually really looking forward to it o-o


I agree. Even if it's not close and one player outlcasses another, it'll still be some of the highest level ZvZ we've seen yet.
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