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Daray
6006 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:42 zeru wrote: If you never cut corners or take risks you will just be predictable and lose either way. I don't think this is true at all and i dont think they the games were really build order losses. His builds just werent very refined and he wasn't prepared for anything out of the ordinary | ||
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Domination
United States1177 Posts
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:42 TR wrote: YES LOSIRA!! I think NesTea (vsZ 18-2 90.00%) is favored but LosirA (vsZ 12-3 80.00%) still definitely has a chance. I think this finals is the true definition of coinflips. They practice together, they're by many considered the best zergs in the world, it's ZvZ, they have amazing ZvZ stats. I have no idea how to do my Liquibets for this one. Might be the first time I actually flip a coin. | ||
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Vinski
505 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:44 Domination wrote: LOL at the people who think a zvz final is awesome. You guys have terrible taste. ZvZ was the worst matchup in broodwar and it might be the worst matchup in SC2. PvP is the ZvZ of SC2, don't kid yourself | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:42 zeru wrote: If you never cut corners or take risks you will just be predictable and lose either way. He could have sent a second SCV to scout. Not entirely sure how he might have prevented a baneling bust after that, but still, I think an SCV loitering in your base my be a serious deterrant to even going for an early baneling nest. Still if you go for a risky build, you have to prepare yourself for counters and Byun just didn't. | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:38 WindCalibur wrote: Terrans and Protoss better start practicing harder and try to catch up. Clearly, allowing the zerg to drone up too hard (aka no apparent pressure) or doing risky builds that has holes everywhere is not the way to do it. Lol, Byun was constantly dropping when he could and any significant pressure that protoss puts on is an all-in, or is deflected by sporecrawlers. Why are you acting like zergs somehow practice harder than all terrans and protoss? They just discovered the timings of any effective push finally, the most effective ones got nerfed, and now zergs know exactly when to drone to get a big lead, exactly like what happened in Nestea v Hongun. If all the best BW players came to SC2, the zerg players would be unstoppable just like Nestea seems. There are just too many game design flaws. Not even a balance whine, hopefully the design team noticed a lot of stupid things going on in the game that can be easily improved. Too often if you do one thing wrong you immediately lose, for any race. Two burrowed banelings should not be able to completely change a game but it happens all the time. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Yew
United States940 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:42 WindCalibur wrote: Build order loss? More like his build order isn't well thought out and he did not practice enough to see through all the holes and variations. Though this might not be his fault considering the amount of time he practiced and who he probably practiced with. Lol I doubt he thought losira would go for the roach all in in game 1. Game 2 was his mistake, bringing all those scvs for basically nothing, so that was his fault. Game 3 he went CC first on a big map on Tal'Darim, but scouted late so he got baneling busted. He tried to vary his builds but got countered in each game. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:40 setzer wrote: The time between GSL ro4 and finals are shorter than BW leagues and most individual league finals in BW have been great. Different game. One mistake won't kill you as much. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:44 Domination wrote: LOL at the people who think a zvz final is awesome. You guys have terrible taste. ZvZ was the worst matchup in broodwar and it might be the worst matchup in SC2. No YOU have terrible taste cause you don't like it. Or you just aren't a Zerg. one or the other. | ||
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Morrisson
289 Posts
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DrunkenTemplar
Australia647 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:44 Dante08 wrote: Wow your logic is so retarded. People want to see the highest level of games possible. One way is to give ample time for players to prepare builds. Its not GOM's fault that one player cant outplay another when they have the same time to prepare.What would you suggest then? GSL every single day, and a season finishes in 2 weeks? Not to mention its total bullshit. In TSL players had significant breaks between playing consecutive matches and it gave us some of the most epic matches in SC2 | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
Except that Mvp won't win MLG | ||
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Wedberg
Sweden169 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:45 OrchidThief wrote: I think this finals is the true definition of coinflips. They practice together, they're by many considered the best zergs in the world, it's ZvZ, they have amazing ZvZ stats. I have no idea how to do my Liquibets for this one. Might be the first time I actually flip a coin. NesTea can't lose. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
This is going to be the best ZvZ series you've ever seen in your life. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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iDope
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
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