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On July 21 2011 19:22 WArped wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. He was making HT way too late, I agree about the Collosi, Immortal etc, but HT would have changed the face of that, or at least help out a little. It's surprising to see MC commit to an attack at that spinecrawler hill location too, he probably should have backed up to find a better opportunity or attack a different location. But hey, he's the progamer here.
There are no warp-in storms. When zerg is on your doorstep, warping in HT's is almost the worst thing you could have made, after zealots.
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On July 21 2011 19:22 Eufouria wrote:
Damn. If only MC had tabbed out to this LR thread during the game. Then he could read how to beat it from all these players who know more than him.
Well, they're all clearly NesTea, MVP, and other multiple-GSL champions trolling.
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On July 21 2011 19:21 iamke55 wrote:
MC's play seemed too arrogant there. He's so used to killing Zergs before broodlords are out that he didn't adjust to more of a turtly strategy once he saw the screenful of spine crawlers. Then, beating Idra isn't really good pvz practice so you can't be too shocked at this result!
If you get to player bash I'm going to one line it up.
^lol^
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On July 21 2011 19:20 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:15 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 21 2011 19:12 Eufouria wrote:
Holy shit BBoongBBoongs I've never seen anything like this. man, Day9 had broodlord + transfuse months ago not everyone follows day9 religiously  Its just funny because when he brought it up on SotG, Idra and every Zerg just shit on it pretty much.
Day9 has been inventing shit in SC2 since the beta like Muta.... BANELING!? but it all goes unappreciated for a stupidly long time for little reason.
That being said, I suppose i could invent any combination and at some point the game would roll into it.
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On July 21 2011 19:23 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:22 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. He was making HT way too late, I agree about the Collosi, Immortal etc, but HT would have changed the face of that, or at least help out a little. It's surprising to see MC commit to an attack at that spinecrawler hill location too, he probably should have backed up to find a better opportunity or attack a different location. But hey, he's the progamer here. There are no warp-in storms. When zerg is on your doorstep, warping in HT's is almost the worst thing you could have made, after zealots.
He would have had storms but he started void ray production.
After he saw a ton of hydralisks...
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On July 21 2011 19:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:20 Dommk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 Dommk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. What other units? Voids vs that Many Queens and Hydra? Storm vs Transfuses? Stalkers are the only versatile unit Toss have Yeah, because he can transfuse his entire god damn ground army. Is this a joke? If the ground army can be killed off then the broodlords have nothing to support them and then the blink stalkers can clean them up. I can't even tell if people are being serious, if you were watching the game and thinking that hts/archons wouldn't have helped... If he went Storm he would have a lower Stalker count. His Storms won't kill Broodlords or even hit them for that matter considering how far behind they were. When Storms start going down the Overlords get moved, you have to be retarded to lose Overlords to storm considering how much HP they have Oh dear god, storm tech on 3-4 bases! Unaffordable!! OH YES, THE OVERLORDS ARE THE PROBLEM HERE NOT THE GIGANTIC ROACH/HYDRA BALL WITH NO SENTRIES
Yeah the perpetual 200/200 Supply Roach/Hydra ball, lets just get Sentries, Storm Archons and enough Gateway units to beat a Broodlord/constant 200/200 push that hits your base the moment you don't have the Stalker count to delay it
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On July 21 2011 19:21 Pwnographics wrote:
Why did MC lose?
Because he lost his void rays/collosi and zerg was still 200/200. Meaning he needed units ASAP to stop the push.
Only unit available? Stalkers.
MC was trying to push in with blink stalkers against 20 spinecrawlers when he should have just secured his 4th and tech'd to hts/archons
he got overconfident and paid for it
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On July 21 2011 19:21 Supamang wrote:a lot of people seem to overlook that huh
Storm>feedback in that situation. but MC didn't have the gas at all to make any decent amount of templars at that point.
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On July 21 2011 19:20 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. Err. Blink stalkers are tier 2, and stalkers with 3/3 are also tier 2.
So zerglings with adrenal glands are tier 3?
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On July 21 2011 19:21 Yuriegh wrote:
anyone else notice the captain america commercial in the background?
Indeed, I was more interested in Sulli's one though lol.
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On July 21 2011 19:23 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:20 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 21 2011 19:15 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 21 2011 19:12 Eufouria wrote:
Holy shit BBoongBBoongs I've never seen anything like this. man, Day9 had broodlord + transfuse months ago not everyone follows day9 religiously Its just funny because when he brought it up on SotG, Idra and every Zerg just shit on it pretty much. Day9 has been inventing shit in SC2 since the beta like Muta.... BANELING!? but it all goes unappreciated for a stupidly long time for little reason. That being said, I suppose i could invent any combination and at some point the game would roll into it.
I hate to break your heart but Day9 didn't invent Muta bling or queen broodlord.
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On July 21 2011 19:24 Bagonad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:20 Eufouria wrote:On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. Err. Blink stalkers are tier 2, and stalkers with 3/3 are also tier 2. So zerglings with adrenal glands are tier 3?
Yes.
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he was translating it......with his ass?
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On July 21 2011 19:25 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
he was translating it......with his ass?
boongboong(sp?) means fart, apparently
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...man, I was going to go to bed, but then I couldn't sleep, so I grabbed a snack, and while I was eating my snack I checked TL and OMFG PUMA TO EG...and then I figured I might as well watch the GSTL, and WOW THEY PUT OUT MC FIRST...another mostly sleepless night and morning for me...
<3 the team league though.
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On July 21 2011 19:24 Bagonad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:20 Eufouria wrote:On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. Err. Blink stalkers are tier 2, and stalkers with 3/3 are also tier 2. So zerglings with adrenal glands are tier 3?
Who cares, "tier" is the most innacurate method of describing units imaginable. This isnt World of Warcraft or some shit.
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On July 21 2011 19:24 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:24 Bagonad wrote:On July 21 2011 19:20 Eufouria wrote:On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on. He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle. It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered. Err. Blink stalkers are tier 2, and stalkers with 3/3 are also tier 2. So zerglings with adrenal glands are tier 3? Yes.
Just stop while you're both wining. There's a new match on.
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TOP prepared for this nap it seems.
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