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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 21 2011 10:28 GMT
#1141
Slippery scantipede
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 21 2011 10:28 GMT
#1142
Top is so fkn good looking 0.O i mean look at him!!! He is like Stupidly good looking >.<

And his macro is just yum! bet he gets all the fan girls (that nada doesnt want troll)
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1143
On July 21 2011 19:27 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:23 Dommk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:20 Dommk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:16 Dommk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke


earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on.


He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle.

What other units? Voids vs that Many Queens and Hydra? Storm vs Transfuses? Stalkers are the only versatile unit Toss have

Yeah, because he can transfuse his entire god damn ground army. Is this a joke? If the ground army can be killed off then the broodlords have nothing to support them and then the blink stalkers can clean them up. I can't even tell if people are being serious, if you were watching the game and thinking that hts/archons wouldn't have helped...

If he went Storm he would have a lower Stalker count. His Storms won't kill Broodlords or even hit them for that matter considering how far behind they were. When Storms start going down the Overlords get moved, you have to be retarded to lose Overlords to storm considering how much HP they have

Oh dear god, storm tech on 3-4 bases! Unaffordable!! OH YES, THE OVERLORDS ARE THE PROBLEM HERE NOT THE GIGANTIC ROACH/HYDRA BALL WITH NO SENTRIES


Yeah the perpetual 200/200 Supply Roach/Hydra ball, lets just get Sentries, Storm Archons and enough Gateway units to beat a Broodlord/constant 200/200 push that hits your base the moment you don't have the Stalker count to delay it

Constant 200/200? MC was ahead after he won that first battle but he decided to try and end it rather than teching and securing his 4th. No god damn way is bboongbboong gonna be able to secure a 5th when he has to rely on 20 spinecrawlers for his 4th. No one is fucking saying he should have tech'd to templars when the push was coming after he lost a bunch of stalkers to spinecrawlers because he was overaggressive, but he could've tech'd to them so much earlier. The guy has god damn broodlords out and you are trying to say that templars are too far away to tech to? Do you even play this game?

How was he ahead? BB was at 200/200 supply during the entire first fight. Watch the damn game


And MC killed most of the hydralisks and corruptors, leaving most of that 200 supply roaches, and retained his entire stalker ball, while having 4 vs 4 base

He could have teched to anything he wanted before attacking again.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1144
On July 21 2011 19:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
No god damn way is bboongbboong gonna be able to secure a 5th when he has to rely on 20 spinecrawlers for his 4th.


It's true that Korean zergs often forget this, but spine crawlers move.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1145
best looking map in sc2 <3 it
no dude, the question
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1146
On July 21 2011 19:26 Sandro wrote:
This probably isnt a good thread to ask this in, but when will GOM change their map pool. They used to change it every GSTL but now its a month long league


LSPrime posted a new map to the maps forum the other day

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243974

I'd imagine you might see a few new ones being used by GOM in the future. I have a hunch iCCup might try and lobby GOM to include Ithaca in their map pool too, which would be amazing because it's a beautiful map.

=-=-=-=-=

TOP seems like to like his CC first builds in TvZ lately, didn't he do something similar vs Losira?
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1147
On July 21 2011 19:24 Eufouria wrote:
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On July 21 2011 19:24 Bagonad wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:20 Eufouria wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:18 Crashburn wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:16 WArped wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:14 cassurai wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:13 Joseph123 wrote:
so what mc has to do here? ****** joke


earlier templars / voids obviously. he should've made templars and had 3 stargates before even pushing out with colossus deathball, so he had something to fall back on.


He had just blink stalkers, tier 1. Protosses in Korea right now only go blink stalkers with plus 3 and assume they can win every battle.


It's because zerg remaxes too fast. Stuff like immortals, colossi, void rays, etc. take too long to rebuild. Stalkers are the next-best thing to use against roach/BL. If you don't want to see mass stalkers vs. zerg in the late game, then the macro mechanics of either race need to be altered.

Err. Blink stalkers are tier 2, and stalkers with 3/3 are also tier 2.


So zerglings with adrenal glands are tier 3?

Yes.


Also,
stalkers - tier 1.5
blink - tier 2
+3 upgrades - tier 2

Where is this stalkers with +3 and blink are tier 1 shit coming from ?
Also, there is no real tier delimitation for T and P, as there is for Z. This isn't warcraft3.
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1148
On July 21 2011 19:28 BFD wrote:
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On July 21 2011 19:26 Sandro wrote:
This probably isnt a good thread to ask this in, but when will GOM change their map pool. They used to change it every GSTL but now its a month long league


In order for the GSTL to be fair for all, the map pool shouldn't change in it until it's all over.

And that means 3-4 months long.

Ahh that sucks so much. We're back to open season again, well, without the horrible maps like Kulas, Steppes, Delta, etc
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1149
On July 21 2011 19:28 JKira wrote:
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On July 21 2011 19:26 nojok wrote:
MC is known for his timing attacks, not for his macro game. I have to say I did not see this game, just turned on the stream. Just to say it does not surprise me taht he does not win if he enters on equal foot in late game.


Can't believe people still have this misconception about him -_-

Since NASL, people should know that he has one of the best macro of all Protoss players
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1150
On July 21 2011 19:28 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:26 nojok wrote:
MC is known for his timing attacks, not for his macro game. I have to say I did not see this game, just turned on the stream. Just to say it does not surprise me taht he does not win if he enters on equal foot in late game.


Can't believe people still have this misconception about him -_-

Yeah, he was using timing attacks back then, when he was winning championships. Now he plays macro games.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 21 2011 10:29 GMT
#1151
On July 21 2011 19:26 Lambertus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:23 Medrea wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:20 jmbthirteen wrote:

On July 21 2011 19:15 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:13 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:12 Eufouria wrote:
Holy shit BBoongBBoongs I've never seen anything like this.

man, Day9 had broodlord + transfuse months ago

not everyone follows day9 religiously


Its just funny because when he brought it up on SotG, Idra and every Zerg just shit on it pretty much.


Day9 has been inventing shit in SC2 since the beta like Muta.... BANELING!? but it all goes unappreciated for a stupidly long time for little reason.

That being said, I suppose i could invent any combination and at some point the game would roll into it.


Well but also he invents a lot of strats that in practice never work...like for example when he was on Kin of Tins he tried three times in a row a carrier rush and it just didnt work...but well, that said, hes still a genius :D

Sure, but all he was saying is that Zergs need to try these things to see if they work or not.

And you can't hold what he did on KOT against him. Its KOT, just a fun show with 3v3
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SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1152
wait what...

no wall????
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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1153
On July 21 2011 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Top is so fkn good looking 0.O i mean look at him!!! He is like Stupidly good looking >.<

And his macro is just yum! bet he gets all the fan girls (that nada doesnt want troll)

There should be almost 100% fangirls at the studio today, just think about it: TOP, Nada, MarineKing and Poltimus all in one place.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:31:08
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1154
IMHO, should have made depot wall at choke after lifting CC, would have prevented that tank loss

EDIT: now lings get in main again
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1155
On July 21 2011 19:28 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:26 nojok wrote:
MC is known for his timing attacks, not for his macro game. I have to say I did not see this game, just turned on the stream. Just to say it does not surprise me taht he does not win if he enters on equal foot in late game.


Can't believe people still have this misconception about him -_-


Heh. Even after his NASL matches against Sen and Puma, too. It's pretty much hopeless. MC could play only macro games for the next year, and there'd still be people who blindly believe that.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1156
if bbonbbongbongbonong keeps this up he is gonna be in a good position, really wp so far and top sort of screwing up a bit
Do you really want chat rooms?
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#1157
Wow those Zerglings. I was surprised when he made 8 at the start but he was clearly prepared to do some counter attacks.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#1158
Why would top pick this map? -.- Sooo good for zerg.
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#1159
Whats going on with TOP's sim city ><
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#1160
Beat NesTea, lose to mass lingz
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