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So whens the next match the Live button says in like 19 hours and the schedule says next week.
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On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already.
Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc.
MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him.
As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough.
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On July 13 2011 22:52 skrzmark wrote:
So whens the next match the Live button says in like 19 hours and the schedule says next week.
Next code S/A match is next week yes. But the next live include both code S/A and GSTL. GSTL is tomorrow.
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poor huk and nada  this news ruined my day
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On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC.
Not sure if serious but MC is 2-1 over Nestea. MC's strongest match-up is PvZ. Not saying either way cuz I think Nestea is best player in the world but he'd never fall to Coca or any other Zerg for that matter and has fallen to MC.
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On July 13 2011 22:52 skrzmark wrote:
So whens the next match the Live button says in like 19 hours and the schedule says next week.
Because tomorrow and Friday there is the GSTL as usual.
Monday will be the Code A Final.
Tuesday/Wednesday will be the Code S 1/4 finals
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On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough.
0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable.
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On July 13 2011 22:55 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. Not sure if serious but MC is 2-1 over Nestea. MC's strongest match-up is PvZ. Not saying either way cuz I think Nestea is best player in the world but he'd never fall to Coca or any other Zerg for that matter and has fallen to MC.
Those games were all over 8 months ago. They mean nothing at this point.
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On July 13 2011 22:56 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:55 tdt wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. Not sure if serious but MC is 2-1 over Nestea. MC's strongest match-up is PvZ. Not saying either way cuz I think Nestea is best player in the world but he'd never fall to Coca or any other Zerg for that matter and has fallen to MC. Those games were all over 8 months ago. They mean nothing at this point.
...and 2-1, when? All I can see is MC losing to NesTea in GSL Open S2. At least, that's all I can find on TLPD. And yes, they mean nothing either way.
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Ah, right, I forgot about GSTL it doesn't occur as often, hyyyyyype! They give quite some time for the players to prepare for Quarter Finals Which means some time to snipe Nestea or MC playstyles...
Stop arguing over NesTea vs MC we shall see the Results in the Semi-Finals in a epic Best of 5 and we may see our 3rd time champion.
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On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable.
That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble.
MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do.
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On July 13 2011 23:02 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable. That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble. MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do.
Yeah not like in the last month hes done like 3 new builds vs zerg, obviously his pvz skill is completely stagnant and predictable, no way he might have something new to beat nestea.
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On July 13 2011 23:04 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 23:02 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable. That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble. MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do. Yeah not like in the last month hes done like 3 new builds vs zerg, obviously his pvz skill is completely stagnant and predictable, no way he might have something new to beat nestea.
Sure, but now, you're just relying on speculation and feel, as am I. Everything I said was based on feel - then you jumped in with meaningless stats (and incorrect ones, I might add).
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On July 13 2011 23:00 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:56 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 13 2011 22:55 tdt wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. Not sure if serious but MC is 2-1 over Nestea. MC's strongest match-up is PvZ. Not saying either way cuz I think Nestea is best player in the world but he'd never fall to Coca or any other Zerg for that matter and has fallen to MC. Those games were all over 8 months ago. They mean nothing at this point. ...and 2-1, when? All I can see is MC losing to NesTea in GSL Open S2. At least, that's all I can find on TLPD. And yes, they mean nothing either way.
Ygosu Invitational, GSL Open 2, and Gisado All-Star KotH (not sure about the last one).
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On July 13 2011 23:02 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable. That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble. MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do.
They are 2-3 with MC in the lead. MC winning games in YGosu Invitational and Gisado Team Challenge, both after the third Open Season.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=29&part=games&vs=640&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=9&from_day=6&to_year=2011&to_month=7&to_day=12&action=Update
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Imagine if it's a Byun, Coca, Tester, Hongun semi final!!! GONNA BE EPIC!
In reality, if Nestea reaches the final, he will win. MC imo will have trouble with both Bomber and Losira in the final, as they have one of the sickest vP's in their respective races. Bomber imo has the best TvP, although his TvZ seems quite weak. Losira has sick ZvP, with only Nestea being worse, but has fairly weak ZvT. Losira has not got the best micro in the world, and he needs that for Infestor usage vs T and Baneling usage as well.
I think Byun might actually upset Bomber, and may take Ryung's place as the premier TvT sniper. But my head is telling me Bomber is too good at that matchup.
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Wow managed to liquibet all 4 of them wrong :D
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Nooo Huk
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On July 13 2011 23:09 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 23:02 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable. That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble. MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do. They are 2-3 with MC in the lead. MC winning games in YGosu Invitational and Gisado Team Challenge, both after the third Open Season. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=29&part=games&vs=640&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=9&from_day=6&to_year=2011&to_month=7&to_day=12&action=Update
Do you have any idea how much worse Zerg was back then?
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On July 13 2011 23:02 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 22:56 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:53 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:48 Olinim wrote:On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote:On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote:
Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc. MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him. As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough. 0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable. That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble. MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do.
We have enough of a sample size to know Nestea is a boss ZvZ. Dimaga 10 pooling and pulling all his drones verses a fast expand doesn't really count.
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