You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right?

...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC.

rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already.

Look at all of the results of the GSL. The ones that have heavyweights close in skill level, the player with a slightly higher chance to win will almost always win. MVP > MKP, MC > July, etc.

MC beat NesTea...when? I don't remember the last time he beat him.

As for Coca, I don't think we've seen enough of him to say, but he has a good chance of coming out and surprising everybody. What we see is what we get with MC, and I don't think that it's good enough.

0-4 zvz vs 80 percent win rate zvz. Saying coca has a better chance of beating nestea is simply laughable.

That's what we said about DIMAGA. Look at what happened. NesTea's ZvZ doesn't have a large enough sample size for anyone to judge. The same can be said for the matchups of tons of players. All we can rely on is feel...and I feel that Coca has been playing really recently, and could cause trouble.

MC, on the other hand - we've seen too many of his games to not know what he can or cannot do.

They are 2-3 with MC in the lead. MC winning games in YGosu Invitational and Gisado Team Challenge, both after the third Open Season.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=29&part=games&vs=640&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=9&from_day=6&to_year=2011&to_month=7&to_day=12&action=Update

Do you have any idea how much worse Zerg was back then?

Do you have any idea why I posted this result? I slightly remember of a quoted post that only implies Nestea wins off of OPEN SEASON II.

They are the only results we have and they are not reliable because they all were so far back.

iyoume

2501 Posts

July 13 2011 14:34 GMT

#2782

boo, VODs for bomber-polt not up yet.

Byun-Nada was totally not what i expected. really solid play from Byun.

ZAiNs

United Kingdom6525 Posts

July 13 2011 14:52 GMT

#2783

Zenio vs. HongUn G2 was good, people are just saying 'No' because of Tastosis' criticism that the players didn't completely deserve.

Spacekyod

United States818 Posts

July 13 2011 15:02 GMT

#2784

Nooooo Nada WHY!?

How in the world has Byun gotten this far!?!

corpsepose

1678 Posts

July 13 2011 15:04 GMT

#2785

On July 14 2011 00:02 Spacekyod wrote:
Nooooo Nada WHY!?

How in the world has Byun gotten this far!?!

he's good?

Woshie

Australia90 Posts

July 13 2011 15:07 GMT

#2786

On July 14 2011 00:04 corpsepose wrote:

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he's good?

I was going to say by winning :p

Honestly I don't think you (Spacekyod) have seen the games vs Nada if you wonder how Byun won.

Arcanne

United States1519 Posts

July 13 2011 15:11 GMT

#2787

Bomber breaking through

cojosc2

United States87 Posts

July 13 2011 15:12 GMT

#2788

MC and Bomber in finals, does anyone want to see it as bad as me?

ramon

Germany4842 Posts

July 13 2011 15:14 GMT

#2789

On July 14 2011 00:12 cojosc2 wrote:
MC and Bomber in finals, does anyone want to see it as bad as me?

4-6 boring all-ins (depending on how good mc holds) and maybe one macro game? no thanks

Moralez

Portugal1857 Posts

July 13 2011 15:15 GMT

#2790

nestea vs mc semis please! nestea would destroy mc <3
poor nada tho i want him to sucess

msjakofsky

1169 Posts

July 13 2011 15:16 GMT

#2791

On July 13 2011 21:55 usethis2 wrote:

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It has been well established in Korea that blink stalkers beats everything Zerg has until a sizable number of infestors are out. It is no wonder many protoss tries blink stalkers (and fail because of bad blink micro and/or bad positioning). But in a head-to-head fight, blink stalkers are invincible as long as your micro is there. Example: Puzzle v. Sheth. If you are confident with blink micro you will beat everything Zerg has. The DPS + retention rate is just so good. Hydras with equal upgrades also lose to blink stalkers. (There was a thread @PlayXP discussing this)

you realise stalkers still have the worst dps and the worst dps/cost ratio of any combat unit in the game? one zergling has higher dps than a stalker.it's all down to micro

Graham

Canada1259 Posts

July 13 2011 15:20 GMT

#2792

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HUKKK!! T___T
Despite it being MC after-all, I figured HuK's momentum lately along with MC recently getting back from NASL would shift it in favor for a HuK win.

antilyon

Brazil2546 Posts

July 13 2011 15:26 GMT

#2793

On July 14 2011 00:14 ramon wrote:

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4-6 boring all-ins (depending on how good mc holds) and maybe one macro game? no thanks

To be fair, Bomber's macro is better than MVP but he is just like July, he smell weakness, and once he find it, he don't hesitate in go all-in.

tdt

United States3179 Posts

July 13 2011 15:34 GMT

#2794

On July 14 2011 00:15 Moralez wrote:
nestea vs mc semis please! nestea would destroy mc <3
poor nada tho i want him to sucess

There is going to be a lot of zerg qq after MC beats Nestea and rolls Losira in finals. I can't wait.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10382 Posts

July 13 2011 15:36 GMT

#2795

lol, all matches were 2 sets =O

ok time to watch

Kammalleri

Canada613 Posts

July 13 2011 15:51 GMT

#2796

Kind of weird day. I thought all 3 matchups would be sick, but it turned out pretty one sided. It's not like any player has been really awful or anything, but there hasn't really been a game I felt like was just going back and forth.

Kinda disappointed considering the playres that played today, but the players who won totally deserve it for sure

usethis2

2164 Posts

July 13 2011 15:53 GMT

#2797

On July 13 2011 23:52 ZAiNs wrote:
Zenio vs. HongUn G2 was good, people are just saying 'No' because of Tastosis' criticism that the players didn't completely deserve.

That's nothing new. That's the series I've watched so far from today's matches, and my expectation has been pretty low for the casting archon as of late. There are 4~5 bases for both players and actions are occurring non-stop, and they're criticizing from an arm chair for petty, ridiculous stuff. I think at one point they criticized Zenio for not noticing cloaked observer. (look at that shimmer!! Why can't you see that? This is a code B game!)

Seriously? No wonder their "professional" career as players has been.. laughable to say the least. I used to watch all GSL games but these days I watch them selectively. (regardless of who casts)

usethis2

2164 Posts

July 13 2011 16:00 GMT

#2798

On July 14 2011 00:16 msjakofsky wrote:

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you realise stalkers still have the worst dps and the worst dps/cost ratio of any combat unit in the game? one zergling has higher dps than a stalker.

What is your point? You think all these protoss players amassing stalkers in ZvP are dummies?

On July 14 2011 00:16 msjakofsky wrote:
it's all down to micro.

And I noted that.

Z3kk

4099 Posts

July 13 2011 16:01 GMT

#2799

Nooooo huk :c