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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:18 sc2guy wrote: Layoff the exaggeration. Nestea did beat Bomber but overall, it was not like the 2 embarrassing Code A matches we had today. I'm not saying the games were bad, I'm saying NesTea won in a very convincing way. In the first game he had 101 drones at the 12 minute mark and won the game by throwing away small groups of ultralisks. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:12 MCDayC wrote: What happened in the final two TvT games, I missed them both. Where they roflstomps or close games? WTF happened to Nada! They were somewhat close, but perhaps because TvTs tend to be close. Nada was way outplayed in both games. The first game of the Polt Bomber game was extremely good, I'll put it as one of the more memorable matches GSL has produced. But then the 2nd game is not worth it, unless you enjoy genocide. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
Nestea 3-1 Coca MC 3-0 HongUn Losira 3-1 Trickster Bomber 3-2 Byun (but Byun us looking very strong so not sure) | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:16 bennyaus wrote: Realistically at a top level, I think all races have many 'cheesy' options (not cheese, as the marine/raven/banshee allin isn't cheese). Don't make this a "omg terran have more" thing. They don't. Protoss have many all-in/'cheesy' options such as 2gate proxy, 4gate, DTs, 3gate-VR (probably the best analogue of the raven allin), etc. that have been used at a high level. Zerg have the Roach/Ling Allin/aggression off 1-2base, 6-10pool, or the fast lair 2 base hydra drop allin vs P, amongst other things, baneling busts of varying sorts... Not anymore. 2 gate was weakened by zealots at 38 seconds. 4 gate was weakened by slower warpgate DT's always been pretty weak against terran early Why you think MC doesnt all in anymore vs T? Without perfect scouting the 3 rax all in and raven/tank/banshee is impossible to hold for toss which is how Bomber beat MC. There is still plenty of cheese you can run on a Zerg though. | ||
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sc2guy
291 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:23 Zane wrote: I'm not saying the games were bad, I'm saying NesTea won in a very convincing way. In the first game he had 101 drones at the 12 minute mark and won the game by throwing away small groups of ultralisks. Your last post I will agree. The one I reply to It was so embarrassing I almost cried. No. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:21 Arceus wrote: everyone said the same last ST,yet Nestea still fell to TOP and TOP didnt play gawdly either. I would say it's 50-50 if he gets to face MC/Bomber.All three are the best in their respective race. (I would say bomber's defeat was due to nerve and he didnt play up to his potential) Not really. Bomber's TvZ is pretty damn bad, relative to his other matchups. Just look at his recent results (losing to NesTea, dropping games to Haypro, then Moon, then Destiny, etc.). His Korean ELO in TvZ is not indicative of anything except for a small sample size and outdated games. I'd say that TOP has a much better TvZ than Bomber. Ergo, NesTea is pretty much a lock to win, unless Coca can pull something out of a hat. Seriously, if the GSL teaches us anything, it's that we should be more afraid of huge underdogs knocking out top players than anything else. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:11 MrCon wrote: Blink stalkers are good against roaches/banelings and even hydras, but get roflstomped by Morrow's style (pure lings with fast 2/2 upgrades and optional infestors) The problem is that if you don't go lings at first it's hard to reinforce with pure lings as you are usually larva starved at that point and can't make the critical amount of lings needed to surround the stalkers ball. losira's zvp style is sick good too, but it's less about the unit composition than about his mechanics has morrow actually lost a televised zvp series since he switched to doubleling style? | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:28 sc2guy wrote: Your last post I will agree. The one I reply to No. The game 1 was good and close, yes, game 2 was embarrassing. (I would not use this term but I understand someone can use it. I'd say it was a one sided stomp) | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:36 ramon wrote: losira's zvp style is sick good too, but it's less about the unit composition than about his mechanics has morrow actually lost a televised zvp series since he switched to doubleling style? Has he faced MC?  Actually I'm pretty sure both times he lost to MC he was using ling baneling...so yeah. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
 This season is exciting <3 | ||
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MrSweetNess
Australia312 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:21 Arceus wrote: everyone said the same last ST,yet Nestea still fell to TOP and TOP didnt play gawdly either. I would say it's 50-50 if he gets to face MC/Bomber.All three are the best in their respective race. (I would say bomber's defeat was due to nerve and he didnt play up to his potential) I don't know... NesTea played sloppy in that series, and still almost pulled off one of the greatest comebacks in GSL history. Just because a player loses one series doesn't automatically make them bad at that match up, players are allowed to have bad days. Yes there is a possibility that NesTea would lose to Bomber or MC but I think NesTea is rightly the favrourite in against Bomber and MC, so it is his to lose. Either way, I just hope to see two of the three in the final so we can hopefully have a finals that lives up to all the hype. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:37 Olinim wrote: Has he faced MC? Actually I'm pretty sure both times he lost to MC he was using ling baneling...so yeah. hmm he used roach/ling in 2 games and went all-in in game 3 e: he is actually 21-4 in vP since 23rd may, only dropping one series to socke (after a night where he supposedly didn't sleep) + he destroyed every toss at mlg c-bus and literally raped nani at wcg qualifiers | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
we're going to get a ZvZ finals. | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:44 epoc wrote: Nestea vs Mc could very well be possible finals. Nestea would lose that though I'd say You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote: You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. rofl come on MC is best pvz but he has a worse chance of winning than 0 percent zvz? That is literally the most absurd thing ive ever read on this forum. MC has beaten nestea already. | ||
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:42 Qaatar wrote: I'm calling it right now: we're going to get a ZvZ finals. edit: nvm. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:46 Qaatar wrote: You do realize that they're on the same side of the bracket, right? ...and seriously, NesTea isn't losing that one, sorry. I give a bigger chance for NesTea to lose to Coca than MC. MC vs Nestea will be sick, period <3 And it'll be a bo5 <3 I have no idea who will win, I could make arguments for both players. MC doesn't lose to zergs. Nestea rarely lose to protoss. They'll train specifically for each other. I'M HYPED. | ||
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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