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Metaltoss
Profile Joined April 2011
France781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 10:49:07
July 12 2011 10:48 GMT
#1001
On July 12 2011 19:46 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 19:45 BFD wrote:
On July 12 2011 19:41 MrCon wrote:
Yeah Wolf, zergs being 20-5 on Crossfire are zergs who all cheat crossfire ><


There has never been so much zerg QQ over a map, honestly.

Even steppes of war and delta quadrant led to less Z whine than Crossfire. Except Crossfire is actually 100x better for Z than it is for P or T. I trained a lot on it as a random player (playing R in tourneys), and, honestly, zerg has the easiest time. So much runby abuse, easy banemines, and the - insane - possibility of actually taking a third without dying as a consequence, which the other races don't have.

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Yea I don't get it at all.


I do. It's a case of blaming the game and not the player.

Zergs play on this map expecting standard play. They get two base allined, and don't understand why. They get stuck in chokes by forcefields. They get owned by tanks on high ground. And after that happens, they blame the game, not themselves.

This map is a treat to play on as Z, you just have to KNOW that your opponent WILL abuse the map's features and play two-base for quite a while. This is the only way to play on Crossfire as P or T.
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1002
Tester > Clide for starters, but outside that, he's better than anybody else anyway!
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1003
Heyo, it's Cliiiiiiiiiide
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1004
On July 12 2011 19:46 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 19:45 BFD wrote:
On July 12 2011 19:41 MrCon wrote:
Yeah Wolf, zergs being 20-5 on Crossfire are zergs who all cheat crossfire ><


There has never been so much zerg QQ over a map, honestly.

Even steppes of war and delta quadrant led to less Z whine than Crossfire. Except Crossfire is actually 100x better for Z than it is for P or T. I trained a lot on it as a random player (playing R in tourneys), and, honestly, zerg has the easiest time. So much runby abuse, easy banemines, and the - insane - possibility of actually taking a third without dying as a consequence, which the other races don't have.

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Yea I don't get it at all.


Understanding zerg qq is not possible.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1005
Trickster and FruitDealer, star crossed lovers, must follow one another everywhere <3 :D
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1006
On July 12 2011 19:48 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I actually have to agree with Anatem.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1894_Genius

Genius has a 47% win rate after this series.

How can he stay in Code S so long?

A lot of 2nd, 3rd tier level Brood War pros have 40-50% win rates (those who manage to qualify for OSLs). Considering Genius has been playing for a long time, it's not really very surprising.


I know it's just weird.

we have people like Genius with 47% win rate and Coca with 44% win rate, yet players like Bomber or MMA with 60-75% win rates can't even get into Code S

Guess we just have to wait
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1007
Oh wow match up of Artosis' two favorite players.
MC for president
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1008
tester fighting ! <3
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
hmc
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 10:54:19
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1009
Tester fighting~ <3
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1010
Trickster looks weird in a ST jacket.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1011
Trickster looks like a villain in a movie now. I'm so used to seeing him in the TSL jacket.
"Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more."
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 10:50:45
July 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#1012
Clide vs Tester

What happens when a movable force meets a stoppable object?

The fact that one of them is going to make R8 saddens me to some extent. Well maybe not Clide, he's solid enough that he should have probably make an appearance there at some point in his career.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 12 2011 10:50 GMT
#1013
Genius looked so mediocre in those games. I don't think Coca played that great.
Metaltoss
Profile Joined April 2011
France781 Posts
July 12 2011 10:50 GMT
#1014
On July 12 2011 19:49 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 19:48 pdd wrote:
On July 12 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I actually have to agree with Anatem.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1894_Genius

Genius has a 47% win rate after this series.

How can he stay in Code S so long?

A lot of 2nd, 3rd tier level Brood War pros have 40-50% win rates (those who manage to qualify for OSLs). Considering Genius has been playing for a long time, it's not really very surprising.


I know it's just weird.

we have people like Genius with 47% win rate and Coca with 44% win rate, yet players like Bomber or MMA with 60-75% win rates can't even get into Code S

Guess we just have to wait


But this also means that once they're in it, it'll be hard for them to fall out of it.

Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 12 2011 10:50 GMT
#1015
Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 12 2011 10:51 GMT
#1016
On July 12 2011 19:49 Asha` wrote:
Clide vs Tester

What happens when a movable force meets a stoppable object?


The fact that one of them is going to make R8 saddens me to some extent. Well maybe not Clide, he's solid enough that he should have probably make an appearance there at some point in his career.


Nerdy snort laugh.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 12 2011 10:51 GMT
#1017
Btw this is now a grudge match no?

TSL vs ST? the TSL 2 good (arguably best?) players left and joined ST!!

Interesting??
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 12 2011 10:51 GMT
#1018
On July 12 2011 19:48 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 19:46 Pajegetc wrote:
On July 12 2011 19:44 pdd wrote:
On July 12 2011 19:42 anatem wrote:
embarrasing series.

something needs to happen to make it harder for players like Genius to stay in code S for so long, he played ladder level this game and he barely looks like code A even when he pulls out of his code S group. shameful.

His group stage games would say otherwise though. (At least the game against Virus).


One thing I'd say about Genius. He's pretty much the Inca of PvT.

No not really at all, he's 14-15 in PvT. He exited all three Open Seasons in a row by Terrans, has lost to Rain in series twice, 0-3 vs NaDa, his only real notable PvT victories have been, making it out of his group stages on PvT, beating a struggling Mvp, and beating BoxeR.


I was thinking he beat Nada. XD His Blizzcon win was in a pvt too.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 12 2011 10:51 GMT
#1019
I don't think Clide has ever gotten to the Ro8, so let's see if he can get over that hurdle without Artosis holding him down.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
July 12 2011 10:51 GMT
#1020
TLPD Crossfire SE history:
Korea ZvP: 10-11 (47.6%)
Intl ZvP: 32-22 (59.3%)
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
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