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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 11 2011 11:19 GMT
#741
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
July 11 2011 11:19 GMT
#742
lol. These two are so wonderfully awkward.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
July 11 2011 11:19 GMT
#743
Yeah Losira is very good at protoss, I think he knows protoss in and out which would explain his amazing ZvP
Go go Alliance.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 11 2011 11:19 GMT
#744
Happy I'm disappoint.
Revolutionist fan
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
July 11 2011 11:20 GMT
#745
On July 11 2011 20:18 L3g3nd_ wrote:
how do they leave that quick? the gg comes right as the game over screen pops up...

F10 + N
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 11 2011 11:20 GMT
#746
Oh no IMHappy plz don't let me down
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
July 11 2011 11:20 GMT
#747
So this FXO-teamhouse has a big stash of drugs I can conclude from watching today?
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 11 2011 11:20 GMT
#748
On July 11 2011 20:19 iyoume wrote:
"are you done?"

lolllll


I thought he said "are you dumb?"
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:22:39
July 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#749
On July 11 2011 20:15 WindCalibur wrote:
If anyone was questioning what was Happy doing...

1. Gas first gives two possibilities: reactor hellions or banshees.
2. This makes the protoss play in the dark for a while until he gets obs since he has to play defensive.
3. Shows banshee to protoss: this forces the protoss to play cautious, buying Happy more time.
4. Happy needs something to buy more time, he goes for blue flames, threatening to kill probes, to keep Protoss in his base. Now this allows him to get his tanks and mech up.

What went wrong? His hellions didn't keep the protoss in his base. I'm going to bet that when he practiced this, everyone he vsed just turtled due to the hellions.

Mech is extremely weak early game. This means that either you need to make some bio to defend, or do something weird, like what Happy did, to negate the weak early game. What Happy did also opened up the tech tree, which is technically better than making bio units which don't do anything later anyway.


Way too much explanation. What actually went wrong was that Protoss built an observer.

Also, the hellions would have done a lot more damage if he split them into two groups and sent one into the main.
se7en247
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States487 Posts
July 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#750
Please please please IMHappy make a comeback!! I don't want to watch a PvP final!
I didn't come to play..I came to win. Now lets play.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 11 2011 11:21 GMT
#751
After not having a single protoss in the code A finals for the first 3 seasons, it looks like we'll be having a PvP finals for GSL July.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
July 11 2011 11:22 GMT
#752
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


yonghwa is goooood
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Metaltoss
Profile Joined April 2011
France781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:22:48
July 11 2011 11:22 GMT
#753
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


Seed and YoungHwa are like wut is this StyLeD guy talking about.

They both have a non-standard toss style though. Perhaps not the best for practice. But they're close to top tier for sure, if not top tier for YH.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 11 2011 11:23 GMT
#754
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


Seed and YongHwa would like a word
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 11 2011 11:23 GMT
#755
On July 11 2011 20:21 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:15 WindCalibur wrote:
If anyone was questioning what was Happy doing...

1. Gas first gives two possibilities: reactor hellions or banshees.
2. This makes the protoss play in the dark for a while until he gets obs since he has to play defensive.
3. Shows banshee to protoss: this forces the protoss to play cautious, buying Happy more time.
4. Happy needs something to buy more time, he goes for blue flames, threatening to kill probes, to keep Protoss in his base. Now this allows him to get his tanks and mech up.

What went wrong? His hellions didn't keep the protoss in his base. I'm going to bet that when he practiced this, everyone he vsed just turtled due to the hellions.

Mech is extremely weak early game. This means that either you need to make some bio to defend, or do something weird, like what Happy did, to negate the weak early game. What Happy did also opened up the tech tree, which is technically better than making bio units which don't do anything later anyway.


Way too much explanation. What actually went wrong was that Protoss built an observer.

Also, the hellions would have done a lot more damage if he split them into two groups and sent one into the main.


I dunno if I saw all that I wouldnt know wtf was going on.
twitch.tv/medrea
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
July 11 2011 11:23 GMT
#756
On July 11 2011 20:20 Savern101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:18 L3g3nd_ wrote:
how do they leave that quick? the gg comes right as the game over screen pops up...

F10 + N

Enter
g
g
Enter
F10
N

With pro APM that goes pretty quick.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:25:02
July 11 2011 11:24 GMT
#757
On July 11 2011 20:22 BFD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


Seed and YoungHwa are like wut is this StyLeD guy talking about.

They both have a non-standard toss style though. Perhaps not the best for practice. But they're close to top tier for sure, if not top tier for YH.


Younghwa has amazing PvP. Not exactly sure how his other Matchups fare though from what I've seen vT, his early game is pretty good, late game... eh, haven't seen much of.
Go go Alliance.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:26:13
July 11 2011 11:24 GMT
#758
On July 11 2011 20:21 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:15 WindCalibur wrote:
If anyone was questioning what was Happy doing...

1. Gas first gives two possibilities: reactor hellions or banshees.
2. This makes the protoss play in the dark for a while until he gets obs since he has to play defensive.
3. Shows banshee to protoss: this forces the protoss to play cautious, buying Happy more time.
4. Happy needs something to buy more time, he goes for blue flames, threatening to kill probes, to keep Protoss in his base. Now this allows him to get his tanks and mech up.

What went wrong? His hellions didn't keep the protoss in his base. I'm going to bet that when he practiced this, everyone he vsed just turtled due to the hellions.

Mech is extremely weak early game. This means that either you need to make some bio to defend, or do something weird, like what Happy did, to negate the weak early game. What Happy did also opened up the tech tree, which is technically better than making bio units which don't do anything later anyway.


Way too much explanation. What actually went wrong was that Protoss built an observer.


No i think he is correct.
Protoss can scout the gas first because there is no marine to stop the probe, therefore he can assume either reactor helions or banshee.
Getting observer from there is pretty much a necessity, otherwise you just lose to cloaked banshees.
Protoss getting the observer is definitely part of the plan, thats why he didnt research cloak.

The build was supposed to keep the protoss in the base because of the danger of banshees flying in and killing probes, and then transition into blue flame helions to keep the protoss in the base even longer... everything to buy time for tanks to come out.
Protoss just moved out without the terran noticing and then it was pretty much over.
Metaltoss
Profile Joined April 2011
France781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:25:01
July 11 2011 11:24 GMT
#759
On July 11 2011 20:22 BFD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


Seed and YoungHwa are like wut is this StyLeD guy talking about.


On July 11 2011 20:23 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:19 StyLeD wrote:
IM doesn't have any top tier protoss.....it's showing -.-


Seed and YongHwa would like a word



I like your style, Hassybaby...

*bro-fist*
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 11 2011 11:24 GMT
#760
On July 11 2011 20:21 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:15 WindCalibur wrote:
If anyone was questioning what was Happy doing...

1. Gas first gives two possibilities: reactor hellions or banshees.
2. This makes the protoss play in the dark for a while until he gets obs since he has to play defensive.
3. Shows banshee to protoss: this forces the protoss to play cautious, buying Happy more time.
4. Happy needs something to buy more time, he goes for blue flames, threatening to kill probes, to keep Protoss in his base. Now this allows him to get his tanks and mech up.

What went wrong? His hellions didn't keep the protoss in his base. I'm going to bet that when he practiced this, everyone he vsed just turtled due to the hellions.

Mech is extremely weak early game. This means that either you need to make some bio to defend, or do something weird, like what Happy did, to negate the weak early game. What Happy did also opened up the tech tree, which is technically better than making bio units which don't do anything later anyway.


Way too much explanation. What actually went wrong was that Protoss built an observer.

Also, the hellions would have done a lot more damage if he split them into two groups and sent one into the main.


You always go robo tech if you see gas before barracks. It is the safest and most logical thing to do. Making an observer wasn't what went wrong at all, since he did anticipate the ob and made a raven. He might have thought the ob would stay at the protoss base for a bit longer by faking cloak, but apparently, the ob got too much info for too long.
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