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Hey guys - These games are meant to be fun and for your entertainment. Caster and Player bashing will not be tolerated. Manner please!

Also, this is a Live Report thread - not the place to discuss your displeasure with the event or any of the people involved with it.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 11 2011 02:03 GMT
#11601
I think it all comes down to the stupid NASL invites. They should have just done a series of open tournaments, maybe one for each region, to choose the 50 best players instead of just choosing people for the league. Then nobody would be complaining about this because it would be the 50 best players.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 02:05:36
July 11 2011 02:04 GMT
#11602
On July 11 2011 11:00 limpwald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:57 coopes wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:51 limpwald wrote:
Did anyone fucking record the Stan performance by Anna Prosser and that black guy? (No racial hatred intended!) It was amazing, both of them did amazingly when performing, and I need to send a VOD of it to my friend whos eminems "biggest" fan

Help really appreciated!



Hello,

The performance stars around the 18minute mark in this VOD: http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone/b/289907480


Thank you and all the other replys, appreciate it really much!

Edit: You need to pay for that. I haven't and certainly wont for a single stan performance. Damnit, anyone else recorded it or know someway I could view it without paying 25bucks?

Did you see the youtube link I gave? There's also a mp3 download link in the video description. It's not the performance at the NASL but the audio is better (and the chorus sounds better).
edit: I'll update if I find a video somewhere, but you might want to watch Temp0's youtube account since he might upload it himself.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 11 2011 02:06 GMT
#11603
They should just call it an Invitational instead of a Starleague.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 11 2011 02:08 GMT
#11604
On July 11 2011 11:06 MrKn4rz wrote:
They should just call it an Invitational instead of a Starleague.

Well, the next season is actually a lot more based on qualifiers so that's good.
SaSe fan club manager
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
July 11 2011 02:08 GMT
#11605
Are there any detailed LRs of the finals games?

Much appreciated if someone can direct me.
Woshie
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia90 Posts
July 11 2011 02:11 GMT
#11606
Not sure why people are complaining. The system worked. It produced some amazing series of games including the Finals. A amazing final series. That is something the GSL has only dreamed of.

I think going through the open bracket is also a risk. You have a small timeframe to perform and you could have utterly amazing competition due to the prize pool. If Puma applied (did he?) would the NASL have invited him? Would we have not see Puma vs MC? I think that would been a worse outcome.
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
July 11 2011 02:12 GMT
#11607
Winning the open bracked probably required more wins than making it through the league rounds. So it probably wasn't less wins, just rapid fire wins
maryelizbethwinstead
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico223 Posts
July 11 2011 02:14 GMT
#11608
I understand why people feel off about Puma's win. He was the best player this weekend; but someone "suddenly" coming in and taking it when everyone else slugged it out, sacrificed time and sleep and opportunities for months...

Maybe if someone could enlighten us on the nature of open bracket play, we might better appreciate Puma's win.

Lord, teach me to be patient.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 11 2011 02:15 GMT
#11609
On July 11 2011 10:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:45 TooN wrote:
Pathetic that people are undermining pumas win.


I don't see anyone undermining his win, he played the hell out of that series and beat the best protoss in the world. I can understand, however, that some people are annoyed (and were annoyed BEFORE Puma won, this isn't retroactive hate) that NASL decided to have a 3 month super tournament slug-fest, then invite 2 people to the FINALS who played for a day.

Puma won fair and square, nobody's bashing him. As tournament viewers we want to see the person who's CONSISTENTLY best take the win. It feels odd having Puma take the win with so many fewer games played/won than the people who played in the league (and helped generate the revenue for the tournament) for 9 weeks of games.


So True. It seems that it would have been more efficient to go through the Open then the invitationals. That needs a looking at.
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roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
July 11 2011 02:15 GMT
#11610
i personally think the nasl would be much more cool if each week there was a 10 dollar buy-in double elimination mini tournament that ended over the weekend or so where the the top player qualifies for the finals, and the second place player is 75% qualified for the finals, and the third place player is 50% and fourth place player is 25% qualified


then, after 8 weeks you have 8 people qualified by winning and possibly 8-12 people qualified by constantly placing in top4. people based on their 1-4 finishes in the tournament could also qualify by placing high in several of the mini tournaments. and if someone is 125% qualified (by say placing top4 in one tournament then winning another) their extra 25% transfers over to the next season. but someone who is 100% qualified for that seasons finals may not play in any mini tournaments



then by finals time people who only have a percentage of qualification for the finals play in a playoffs where all those players are seeded into brackets based on how much % they have (so try to make fair brackets) and then the playoffs could be done in many different ways. maybe have a single triple elimination tournament where the top8 qualify or maybe have two double elimination tournaments where the top4 of each qualify. either way make it so if you qualify through the playoffs you lose all % you currently have but you gain qualification ot that seasons finals. and people who fail the playoffs get to keep their % and if they diligently keep trying they can hopefully use that % to increase their chances of qualifying next season


with this system you would have say 24 or so players that show up to the finals. and then the brackets can be formed so the highest seeders get to have brackets in the main tournament with a free first win in it. but how will high seeds be determined because theres no real games to seed people. Id say possibly allow each player to make a list of the top 4 opponents they would like to play first (from first mist desired, to second most desired) and the players picked the most are the weakest, the players picked the least are the strongest. and then the brackets for a double-elimination tournament can be decided somehow by that information


then if you do this you can just remove the groups but every week we would still get to have a epic grand finals of a tournament and the games would probably have more of a important feel to it
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 02:19:29
July 11 2011 02:18 GMT
#11611
On July 11 2011 11:15 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:45 TooN wrote:
Pathetic that people are undermining pumas win.


I don't see anyone undermining his win, he played the hell out of that series and beat the best protoss in the world. I can understand, however, that some people are annoyed (and were annoyed BEFORE Puma won, this isn't retroactive hate) that NASL decided to have a 3 month super tournament slug-fest, then invite 2 people to the FINALS who played for a day.

Puma won fair and square, nobody's bashing him. As tournament viewers we want to see the person who's CONSISTENTLY best take the win. It feels odd having Puma take the win with so many fewer games played/won than the people who played in the league (and helped generate the revenue for the tournament) for 9 weeks of games.


So True. It seems that it would have been more efficient to go through the Open then the invitationals. That needs a looking at.

Well it was obviously a lot harder to go through the open bracket and only 1 could do it. The players who lost in the ro16 had a lot higher chance getting through their divisions than winning the open tournament. For the best player in the world it might have been easier but don't fool yourself and think that all the players that got to the finals would have got there if they weren't invited to league play from the beginning.
SaSe fan club manager
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
July 11 2011 02:20 GMT
#11612
Great games overall. Just a tad bit ironic that a player wildcard qualifier won lol.

GG Puma and MC
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 11 2011 02:26 GMT
#11613
On July 11 2011 11:20 EricCartman wrote:
Great games overall. Just a tad bit ironic that a player wildcard qualifier won lol.

GG Puma and MC

Just goes to show that they shouldn't have relied on invites from the beginning. Just imagine how great the games would have been if all the players came from a qualifier. It would be like GSL only in America! :D
SaSe fan club manager
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
July 11 2011 02:26 GMT
#11614
How about groups of 5 instead of 10. That should make the games mean more.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
July 11 2011 02:35 GMT
#11615
anyone who can take a series off mc deserves to win the whole tourney anyways.
Jar Jar Binks
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
July 11 2011 02:36 GMT
#11616
On July 11 2011 11:15 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:53 ObliviousNA wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:45 TooN wrote:
Pathetic that people are undermining pumas win.


I don't see anyone undermining his win, he played the hell out of that series and beat the best protoss in the world. I can understand, however, that some people are annoyed (and were annoyed BEFORE Puma won, this isn't retroactive hate) that NASL decided to have a 3 month super tournament slug-fest, then invite 2 people to the FINALS who played for a day.

Puma won fair and square, nobody's bashing him. As tournament viewers we want to see the person who's CONSISTENTLY best take the win. It feels odd having Puma take the win with so many fewer games played/won than the people who played in the league (and helped generate the revenue for the tournament) for 9 weeks of games.


So True. It seems that it would have been more efficient to go through the Open then the invitationals. That needs a looking at.


Well, I want to see the guy who is the best when he has to be the best to win, actually. Don't generalize.
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Veritassong
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada393 Posts
July 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#11617
lets get this straight.. we have Z - god of war, P - protoss president, and T - Puma.. and Puma the random T wins it all. how ironic. rofl
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Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
July 11 2011 02:40 GMT
#11618
On July 11 2011 09:21 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:11 Knightess wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:03 Fionn wrote:
Poll: Rate NASL

3 Stars - Fun with Some Problems (121)
 
41%

4 Stars - Great with Minor Problems (102)
 
35%

2 Stars - Watchable with Major Problems (58)
 
20%

5 Stars - Perfect (8)
 
3%

1 Star - Awful/Terrible/Unwatchable (3)
 
1%

292 total votes

Your vote: Rate NASL

(Vote): 5 Stars - Perfect
(Vote): 4 Stars - Great with Minor Problems
(Vote): 3 Stars - Fun with Some Problems
(Vote): 2 Stars - Watchable with Major Problems
(Vote): 1 Star - Awful/Terrible/Unwatchable





Don't how to really vote on this. I want to be critical on the production but the players and the games made this game unbelievable.

Then rate the production value of them. The games WEREN'T from NASL, they were from the players. But NASL made this all happen. I'd go with 2, on second thought, I'd go with 3. so 2.5

I think that's harsh. Overall it was a really good event, but there were a lot of little mistakes and a lot of them, although little, were very noticeable. With a more experienced person doing production, some better observing and some better camera work it would have been greatly improved.

Problems like the open bracket winner being so strong will also get better as time goes on, its sort of like how code s players got destroyed in the up/down matches earlier on. As the seasons go on the players in the groups will get better and the competition in the finals will get even better.

I think double elimination would be better too, it might have justified bringing over Tastosis. For sure they were good, but I don't think they casted enough to warrant the 16 hour flight, and it would have been wrong to leave out Gretorp and inControl.

Overall it was a good event, and I enjoyed the final cast by Gretorp and inControl, its amazing to think how much they've improved from the first week of the NASL.

Right now the Poll is at roughly 3.2 points for NASL finals ^^

Well, as Hot Bid said, as long as the tournament finishes without a major disaster all this smaller stuff can be forgotten pretty easily
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 11 2011 02:45 GMT
#11619
Naww, MC lost
At least it was close...but it's MC! Nooo
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Roguelead
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore59 Posts
July 11 2011 02:48 GMT
#11620
when is the EU restream for the grand finals?
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