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Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
July 11 2011 01:26 GMT
#11561
As cool as it is that Puma won his first major tournament today, I hope NASL considers removing the open tournament slot in the grand finals bracket of the coming seasons. If I'm not mistaken, the competitors of season 2 and on earn their spots through a qualifier, right? Then there should be no reason for anyone to complain about anyone making it to the finals because they'll have played through the entire league and earned their place. As skilled as Puma is, it feels a bit wrong in my heart that someone who didn't dedicate 9 weeks of group play to the tournament come in and swept the whole thing.

Again, I'm not saying Puma isn't skilled or that he didn't earn his place in the finals. He beat a whole host of amazing players in the open tournament and wiped out even bigger names in the grand finals to win it all. I'm just saying that perhaps there shouldn't be a slot for anyone to just play one day's worth of games to get in while the rest of the players had to play over a course of 9 or so weeks and ungodly hours.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 11 2011 01:26 GMT
#11562
On July 11 2011 10:19 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:17 Twinfun wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:14 Twinfun wrote:
Only subscribers get to see the day 3 rerun?


Twinfun no get to see finals, I guess.... ):


You don't have 10 dollars and a paypal account?

I don't know how long it will take for the VODs to be uploaded, though. I'm going to check if they're somehow up already b/c I was working when the finals happened

They have a broadcast vod at justin.tv/naslseasonone that goes up pretty much instantly after the broadcast ends. It's automated and not split up properly though, so its a 10+ hour broadcast split into 1.5hour chunks and you'll need to manually find when the matches start
I am down but I am far from over
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 11 2011 01:26 GMT
#11563
Omg. Why did I have to miss the best series ever? Whyyyy.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
July 11 2011 01:27 GMT
#11564
In regards to the grammatical debate going on, per that link posted:
"Correctly attach a subordinate clause to a main clause. When you attach a subordinate clause in front of a main clause, use a comma, like this:
subordinate clause + , + main clause."
So, the sentence is fine. The subordinate clause is there, and he has the main clause. wtf is the problem with it?
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
July 11 2011 01:27 GMT
#11565
On July 11 2011 10:26 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:17 Retgery wrote:
Are there actually two people arguing about sentence structure?


Technically, I agreed with him. I don't know why he sounds upset. I even thanked him.

My bad, I thought that was a sarcastic "thanks" :p I was under the impression that you were saying that what I wrote was the same as what you had been arguing previously.

Cheers and sorry for the mistake ^^
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
July 11 2011 01:28 GMT
#11566
there're two kind of ppl in this world
1.Did good but still get criticized
2.Did nothing but love criticizing others
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 11 2011 01:28 GMT
#11567
Open bracket is fine guys. Think of it like a wild card spot, only for the first time, the wild card actually won the whole thing.
I am down but I am far from over
Lankeer
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:32:12
July 11 2011 01:30 GMT
#11568
On July 11 2011 10:20 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:17 Lankeer wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, some people can find fault in everything, no matter how awesome it may be. PuMa just gave you arguably the best series in sc2 history. He had to defeat many great progamers on his way to becoming champion, yet suddenly this incredible player does not deserve to be there? Surely Ret, who got demolished easily by PuMa without even putting up a fight, has less right to be there? And if going through the open bracket requires so little of a time/money investment, I hereby challenge all of the haters to cruise throught the open bracket with ease and appear in the season 2 finals.

LOL, this is the dumbest argument of them all. "oh if its so EZ, why dont you do it lolol"

it really isn't. By saying that Puma doesn't deserve to be in the finals you're essentially implying that going through the open bracket is easy. using that logic you'd clearly have a shot at making it through? no?
hypno_toad
Profile Joined December 2010
United States156 Posts
July 11 2011 01:31 GMT
#11569
all my fans i will come back to next NASL Season2 see you ps. mc


PuMa on his twitter
┻━┻ ︵ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ︵ ┻━┻
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 11 2011 01:35 GMT
#11570
On July 11 2011 10:28 MrProb wrote:
there're two kind of ppl in this world
1.Did good but still get criticized
2.Did nothing but love criticizing others



i thought it was people who only care about themselves and people who serve the kingdom.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
July 11 2011 01:36 GMT
#11571
On July 11 2011 10:28 Phaded wrote:
Open bracket is fine guys. Think of it like a wild card spot, only for the first time, the wild card actually won the whole thing.


Naniwa @ MLG Dallas?
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 11 2011 01:36 GMT
#11572
On July 11 2011 10:30 Lankeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:20 MechKing wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:17 Lankeer wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, some people can find fault in everything, no matter how awesome it may be. PuMa just gave you arguably the best series in sc2 history. He had to defeat many great progamers on his way to becoming champion, yet suddenly this incredible player does not deserve to be there? Surely Ret, who got demolished easily by PuMa without even putting up a fight, has less right to be there? And if going through the open bracket requires so little of a time/money investment, I hereby challenge all of the haters to cruise throught the open bracket with ease and appear in the season 2 finals.

LOL, this is the dumbest argument of them all. "oh if its so EZ, why dont you do it lolol"

it really isn't. By saying that Puma doesn't deserve to be in the finals you're essentially implying that going through the open bracket is easy. using that logic you'd clearly have a shot at making it through? no?

Difference is, I don't play the game 8+ hours a day as a job -.-
Also, that's not even part of the argument lol, nobody is saying it's easy to get through the open bracket, just that it's unfair that they get a spot in the finals.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 11 2011 01:38 GMT
#11573
On July 11 2011 10:30 Lankeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:20 MechKing wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:17 Lankeer wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, some people can find fault in everything, no matter how awesome it may be. PuMa just gave you arguably the best series in sc2 history. He had to defeat many great progamers on his way to becoming champion, yet suddenly this incredible player does not deserve to be there? Surely Ret, who got demolished easily by PuMa without even putting up a fight, has less right to be there? And if going through the open bracket requires so little of a time/money investment, I hereby challenge all of the haters to cruise throught the open bracket with ease and appear in the season 2 finals.

LOL, this is the dumbest argument of them all. "oh if its so EZ, why dont you do it lolol"

it really isn't. By saying that Puma doesn't deserve to be in the finals you're essentially implying that going through the open bracket is easy. using that logic you'd clearly have a shot at making it through? no?

And here I was thinking that people were upset that NASL decided to match the top seed, Ret, with the best player in the tournament. Seems a little harsh to punish the top seed with that, no? Nobody said that Ret would've won the tournament but even I would think that he deserved to be matched against a lesser player as a reward for being the top ranked player in a 9 week league.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 11 2011 01:38 GMT
#11574
On July 11 2011 10:14 naventus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:07 Maghetti wrote:
MC has an insane ability to adapt to his opponents. I am pretty sure hehad very little if any experience against Sens style, yet he was able to get better and better as the games went on at dealing with it. Against PuMa, he started out very unprepared for the aggressive dropping and as the event went on he got better and better at dealing with PuMa's style, making the series much closer.


What a fucking absurd analysis. On tal'darim, because of their close locations, T has to fly around 3 towers on fairly unprotecting terrain.

That's why it was possible to intercept the drops because there was so much time to do so.

That is all you got? So MC must have stopped using Phoenixes just...because? No, he did it because it wasn't working vs PuMa's style, putting those resources into more of everything else. He got better at spreading his forces to respond to the drops in each game. He started using his observers better. More cannons. Etc.

Vs Sen, very similar. He was not used to that style. He said so in his interview. he was constantly playing with his unit composition and style. This isn't a complicated point, lots of players adjust in a boX series, he just did a good job at it.
Lankeer
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:40:49
July 11 2011 01:40 GMT
#11575
On July 11 2011 10:36 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:30 Lankeer wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:20 MechKing wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:17 Lankeer wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, some people can find fault in everything, no matter how awesome it may be. PuMa just gave you arguably the best series in sc2 history. He had to defeat many great progamers on his way to becoming champion, yet suddenly this incredible player does not deserve to be there? Surely Ret, who got demolished easily by PuMa without even putting up a fight, has less right to be there? And if going through the open bracket requires so little of a time/money investment, I hereby challenge all of the haters to cruise throught the open bracket with ease and appear in the season 2 finals.

LOL, this is the dumbest argument of them all. "oh if its so EZ, why dont you do it lolol"

it really isn't. By saying that Puma doesn't deserve to be in the finals you're essentially implying that going through the open bracket is easy. using that logic you'd clearly have a shot at making it through? no?

Difference is, I don't play the game 8+ hours a day as a job -.-
Also, that's not even part of the argument lol, nobody is saying it's easy to get through the open bracket, just that it's unfair that they get a spot in the finals.

Alright, so now you're saying that you need to be a good player to get through the open bracket? success. and if it's hard to make it through then I fail to see how it doesn't warrant a place in the finals.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 11 2011 01:40 GMT
#11576
On July 11 2011 08:56 Demonaz wrote:
Translator earning her money today.


afaik it's a volunteer position
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 11 2011 01:42 GMT
#11577
On July 11 2011 10:38 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:30 Lankeer wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:20 MechKing wrote:
On July 11 2011 10:17 Lankeer wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, some people can find fault in everything, no matter how awesome it may be. PuMa just gave you arguably the best series in sc2 history. He had to defeat many great progamers on his way to becoming champion, yet suddenly this incredible player does not deserve to be there? Surely Ret, who got demolished easily by PuMa without even putting up a fight, has less right to be there? And if going through the open bracket requires so little of a time/money investment, I hereby challenge all of the haters to cruise throught the open bracket with ease and appear in the season 2 finals.

LOL, this is the dumbest argument of them all. "oh if its so EZ, why dont you do it lolol"

it really isn't. By saying that Puma doesn't deserve to be in the finals you're essentially implying that going through the open bracket is easy. using that logic you'd clearly have a shot at making it through? no?

And here I was thinking that people were upset that NASL decided to match the top seed, Ret, with the best player in the tournament. Seems a little harsh to punish the top seed with that, no? Nobody said that Ret would've won the tournament but even I would think that he deserved to be matched against a lesser player as a reward for being the top ranked player in a 9 week league.


Actually, I believe that a few players threw their final games in order to avoid being the top seed which is why Ret got it. That makes the whole situation even more ridiculous.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
July 11 2011 01:42 GMT
#11578
On July 11 2011 10:36 soverRR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:28 Phaded wrote:
Open bracket is fine guys. Think of it like a wild card spot, only for the first time, the wild card actually won the whole thing.


Naniwa @ MLG Dallas?


But MLG didn't have 9 weeks of games..it's a weekend event. NASL lasted three months, and all the players put a ton of time into preparing for their games and playing them. PuMa just came in one day won an open tourney and stole it from everyone else that played their games for 3 months. Don't get me wrong I'm glad for him, but it just seems a little unfair but it's whatever.
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Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 11 2011 01:43 GMT
#11579
On July 11 2011 10:26 Stanlot wrote:
As cool as it is that Puma won his first major tournament today, I hope NASL considers removing the open tournament slot in the grand finals bracket of the coming seasons. If I'm not mistaken, the competitors of season 2 and on earn their spots through a qualifier, right? Then there should be no reason for anyone to complain about anyone making it to the finals because they'll have played through the entire league and earned their place. As skilled as Puma is, it feels a bit wrong in my heart that someone who didn't dedicate 9 weeks of group play to the tournament come in and swept the whole thing.

Again, I'm not saying Puma isn't skilled or that he didn't earn his place in the finals. He beat a whole host of amazing players in the open tournament and wiped out even bigger names in the grand finals to win it all. I'm just saying that perhaps there shouldn't be a slot for anyone to just play one day's worth of games to get in while the rest of the players had to play over a course of 9 or so weeks and ungodly hours.

What? I think it's an excellent (yes, I did) opportunity for new and upcoming players to get a shot at the finals even though they might not have been invited/qualified for the league 2 months earlier (Puma and ThorZain are two great examples who had their breakthroughs after the invitation process). And to be fair the players that played through the league and didn't make it past the ro16 would probably not have won the open tournament either.
SaSe fan club manager
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
July 11 2011 01:44 GMT
#11580
On July 11 2011 10:40 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 08:56 Demonaz wrote:
Translator earning her money today.


afaik it's a volunteer position

Or else you need to have words with MLG.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
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