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LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
July 11 2011 01:04 GMT
#11521
I bet if Thorzain had won the open bracket and took MC in a best of 7 match a lot of you wouldn't be saying shit. I bet the majority of people who complain about Puma are the ones who can't stand to see Koreans winning anything outside of Korea.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
July 11 2011 01:05 GMT
#11522
On July 11 2011 10:00 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event.


You mean like Send a video before a deadline?


...
maybe you aren't aware of the group stages?


Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot.

Puma went 8-0 to get his

What's your point?


dude, are you serious?
one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play?
the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents.


arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket?


the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that.

I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too.


So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt.
they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10.


All the other players in the Open bracket also put in $10. Why didnt they get in the finals.

Because they didn't get top 4? Nice troll attempt.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
July 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#11523
whoopsays XD
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:08:20
July 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#11524
On July 11 2011 09:59 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:54 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:44 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:36 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.

When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence.


It is two sentences in fact

When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


"When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D


Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence

Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/


It's fragmented sentence because the phrase "such as these" is not necessarily clear enough as to properly define or dictate what the object being talked about is doing or not doing. Specifically the phrase "When I read comments" can be understood as a complete sentence but upon inserting "such as these" you create a clause that is hanging.

However, the original sentence "When i read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU." is alright as a sentence--for the most part. It would be more "accurate" if it was "Whenever I read a comment similar to what you have just said, I have to ask myself whether or not there is a protoss player whose weakest matchup is not PvT."

However, in fairness, that is a ridiculously dumb sentence to say since it's far too dense and far to extended to be, as linguists like to say, a grammatical form of speech.


Woah thanks for the insightful analysis, i'm gonna have to re-run most of my language classes cuz i didn't seem to get the hang of it in 9 years :/


Oh please don't. Language Accuracy is only necessary in teaching the basics of a language. The importance of language is communication and the tropes and standards of communication evolve over time. It is the Academic's job to maintain accuracy in teaching the language but it is the "layman's" job to evolve it. Academics have to learn to catch up to the status-quo of impromptu communication otherwise they are simply removing themselves from society too much. Ivory Towers are bad for academics despite how pretty they are.

EDIT: Fixed a sentence lol

Your analysis was off the mark anyway. The problem with saying that "When I read comments such as these" is a sentence is not that "such as these" isn't clear enough, in fact it has nothing to do with the "such as these" part. The problem is that "When I read comments such as these" is a subordinate clause ("when" being a subordinate conjunction), meaning that it cannot stand alone as a sentence. See this link.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 11 2011 01:07 GMT
#11525
More players should have come out of the open brackets. NASL invited a ton of random foreigners that arent very good at the expense of better players.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 11 2011 01:07 GMT
#11526
MC has an insane ability to adapt to his opponents. I am pretty sure hehad very little if any experience against Sens style, yet he was able to get better and better as the games went on at dealing with it. Against PuMa, he started out very unprepared for the aggressive dropping and as the event went on he got better and better at dealing with PuMa's style, making the series much closer.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
July 11 2011 01:09 GMT
#11527
On July 11 2011 10:07 Maghetti wrote:
MC has an insane ability to adapt to his opponents. I am pretty sure hehad very little if any experience against Sens style, yet he was able to get better and better as the games went on at dealing with it. Against PuMa, he started out very unprepared for the aggressive dropping and as the event went on he got better and better at dealing with PuMa's style, making the series much closer.


good points! the game on taldarim where he just kept intercepting dropships was awesome to watch.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
July 11 2011 01:11 GMT
#11528
On July 11 2011 09:49 s3183529 wrote:
I missed the Puma-MC match. Can someone summarize what happened each game?


No.

Go watch them now!
Mindblowing control and non-stop aggression in most of the games. Terminus and Tal'darim were the most impressive games though.
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:12:47
July 11 2011 01:12 GMT
#11529
Let Tassadar and Puzzle lose tonight and today will be the saddest day for Toss ever. I'm just too upset over MC's loss.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 11 2011 01:12 GMT
#11530
On July 11 2011 10:06 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:59 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:54 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:44 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:36 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
[quote]

Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.

When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence.


It is two sentences in fact

When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


"When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D


Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence

Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/


It's fragmented sentence because the phrase "such as these" is not necessarily clear enough as to properly define or dictate what the object being talked about is doing or not doing. Specifically the phrase "When I read comments" can be understood as a complete sentence but upon inserting "such as these" you create a clause that is hanging.

However, the original sentence "When i read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU." is alright as a sentence--for the most part. It would be more "accurate" if it was "Whenever I read a comment similar to what you have just said, I have to ask myself whether or not there is a protoss player whose weakest matchup is not PvT."

However, in fairness, that is a ridiculously dumb sentence to say since it's far too dense and far to extended to be, as linguists like to say, a grammatical form of speech.


Woah thanks for the insightful analysis, i'm gonna have to re-run most of my language classes cuz i didn't seem to get the hang of it in 9 years :/


Oh please don't. Language Accuracy is only necessary in teaching the basics of a language. The importance of language is communication and the tropes and standards of communication evolve over time. It is the Academic's job to maintain accuracy in teaching the language but it is the "layman's" job to evolve it. Academics have to learn to catch up to the status-quo of impromptu communication otherwise they are simply removing themselves from society too much. Ivory Towers are bad for academics despite how pretty they are.

EDIT: Fixed a sentence lol

Your analysis was off the mark anyway. The problem with saying that "When I read comments such as these" is a sentence is not that "such as these" isn't clear enough. The problem is that it is a subordinate clause ("when" being a subordinate conjunction), meaning that it cannot stand alone as a sentence. See this link.


Cool beans.

"A subordinate clause cannot stand alone as a sentence because it does not provide a complete thought. The reader is left wondering, "So what happened?""

TLDR--It's not clear enough.

According to your link.

Thanks.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 11 2011 01:12 GMT
#11531
On July 11 2011 10:04 LeopoldStotch wrote:
I bet if Thorzain had won the open bracket and took MC in a best of 7 match a lot of you wouldn't be saying shit. I bet the majority of people who complain about Puma are the ones who can't stand to see Koreans winning anything outside of Korea.


I haven't been paying attention to the thread, can you point out who and what posts are talking shit about Puma?
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
July 11 2011 01:13 GMT
#11532
The winner of the league's first season...didn't play in the league?
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 11 2011 01:13 GMT
#11533
On July 11 2011 10:12 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:04 LeopoldStotch wrote:
I bet if Thorzain had won the open bracket and took MC in a best of 7 match a lot of you wouldn't be saying shit. I bet the majority of people who complain about Puma are the ones who can't stand to see Koreans winning anything outside of Korea.


I haven't been paying attention to the thread, can you point out who and what posts are talking shit about Puma?


The part where players are saying the player who won the open bracket didn't deserve the 16th spot as much as the playoffs players?
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Twinfun
Profile Joined September 2010
United States156 Posts
July 11 2011 01:14 GMT
#11534
Only subscribers get to see the day 3 rerun?
HerO | Byun
powerdawg96
Profile Joined November 2010
United States129 Posts
July 11 2011 01:14 GMT
#11535
so when was this open bracket? i didnt hear anything about this.

also the 50 players in regular season played for 15 spots?
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:15:32
July 11 2011 01:14 GMT
#11536
On July 11 2011 10:07 Maghetti wrote:
MC has an insane ability to adapt to his opponents. I am pretty sure hehad very little if any experience against Sens style, yet he was able to get better and better as the games went on at dealing with it. Against PuMa, he started out very unprepared for the aggressive dropping and as the event went on he got better and better at dealing with PuMa's style, making the series much closer.


What a fucking absurd analysis. On tal'darim, because of their close locations, T has to fly around 3 towers on fairly unprotecting terrain.

That's why it was possible to intercept the drops because there was so much time to do so.
hmm.
Twinfun
Profile Joined September 2010
United States156 Posts
July 11 2011 01:15 GMT
#11537
On July 11 2011 10:14 powerdawg96 wrote:
so when was this open bracket? i didnt hear anything about this.

also the 50 players in regular season played for 15 spots?


It was announced way back when the season started that this was going to happen. xD
HerO | Byun
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
July 11 2011 01:15 GMT
#11538
Wow, I was at work. So happy for Sen, definately an S class player in my opinion.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
July 11 2011 01:15 GMT
#11539
On July 11 2011 10:12 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:04 LeopoldStotch wrote:
I bet if Thorzain had won the open bracket and took MC in a best of 7 match a lot of you wouldn't be saying shit. I bet the majority of people who complain about Puma are the ones who can't stand to see Koreans winning anything outside of Korea.


I haven't been paying attention to the thread, can you point out who and what posts are talking shit about Puma?



Not specifically about Puma, but many people bitching about Puma winning and not having to play the regular season.
powerdawg96
Profile Joined November 2010
United States129 Posts
July 11 2011 01:16 GMT
#11540
yeah also when MC stopped going pheonix, puma started to drop a lot more
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