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On July 11 2011 09:44 lorkac wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:36 kunstderfugue wrote:On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass. Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence. It is two sentences in fact When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. "When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything  in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/ It's fragmented sentence because the phrase "such as these" is not necessarily clear enough as to properly define or dictate what the object being talked about is doing or not doing. Specifically the phrase "When I read comments" can be understood as a complete sentence but upon inserting "such as these" you create a clause that is hanging. However, the original sentence "When i read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU." is alright as a sentence--for the most part. It would be more "accurate" if it was "Whenever I read a comment similar to what you have just said, I have to ask myself whether or not there is a protoss player whose weakest matchup is not PvT." However, in fairness, that is a ridiculously dumb sentence to say since it's far too dense and far to extended to be, as linguists like to say, a grammatical form of speech.
Woah thanks for the insightful analysis, i'm gonna have to re-run most of my language classes cuz i didn't seem to get the hang of it in 9 years :/
so much complexity when he could have completely omitted the first half sentence
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On July 11 2011 09:52 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:49 vnlegend wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. So play BO's vs Koreans like Clide, Alive, etc or play vs foreigners? The three months vs 1 day is a valid difference but it's not big of a deal to schedule a few hours for SC once a week. Did you realize that the NASL basically cheated someone out of a spot in the top 16? Instead of having a player that played the whole nine weeks getting into the finals, it's a player who had to put in basically nothing to get there.
But the nasl also cheated players out of being in the 50 invited. The open pool was designed to make up that there is no way to really invite the top 50.
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On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10.
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On July 11 2011 09:52 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:49 vnlegend wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. So play BO's vs Koreans like Clide, Alive, etc or play vs foreigners? The three months vs 1 day is a valid difference but it's not big of a deal to schedule a few hours for SC once a week. Did you realize that the NASL basically cheated someone out of a spot in the top 16? Instead of having a player that played the whole nine weeks getting into the finals, it's a player who had to put in basically nothing to get there.
If players had a problem with this issue they could have opted to not enter in the first place. The rules weren't made up as things progressed. Rules were set in stone to begin with. What's the problem?
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On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10.
You make it sound like all Puma did was pay 10 dollars and got a spot in the Grand Finals.
As if every opponent in the Open bracket was a walkover.
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On July 11 2011 09:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:52 MechKing wrote:On July 11 2011 09:49 vnlegend wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. So play BO's vs Koreans like Clide, Alive, etc or play vs foreigners? The three months vs 1 day is a valid difference but it's not big of a deal to schedule a few hours for SC once a week. Did you realize that the NASL basically cheated someone out of a spot in the top 16? Instead of having a player that played the whole nine weeks getting into the finals, it's a player who had to put in basically nothing to get there. If players had a problem with this issue they could have opted to not enter in the first place. The rules weren't made up as things progressed. Rules were set in stone to begin with. What's the problem?
Actually the NASL is pretty weird when it comes to rules. It was said that players can only choose one race to play the season and then they allowed morrow to race pick. Also, they changed the open tourney and qualifiers to allow only top 4 players to get in, etc. etc. They changed the format so much throughout the season, Idk why you would say that.
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On July 11 2011 09:54 kunstderfugue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:44 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 kunstderfugue wrote:On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass. Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence. It is two sentences in fact When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. "When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/ It's fragmented sentence because the phrase "such as these" is not necessarily clear enough as to properly define or dictate what the object being talked about is doing or not doing. Specifically the phrase "When I read comments" can be understood as a complete sentence but upon inserting "such as these" you create a clause that is hanging. However, the original sentence "When i read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU." is alright as a sentence--for the most part. It would be more "accurate" if it was "Whenever I read a comment similar to what you have just said, I have to ask myself whether or not there is a protoss player whose weakest matchup is not PvT." However, in fairness, that is a ridiculously dumb sentence to say since it's far too dense and far to extended to be, as linguists like to say, a grammatical form of speech. Woah thanks for the insightful analysis, i'm gonna have to re-run most of my language classes cuz i didn't seem to get the hang of it in 9 years :/
Oh please don't. Language Accuracy is only necessary in teaching the basics of a language. The importance of language is communication and the tropes and standards of communication evolve over time. It is the Academic's job to maintain accuracy in teaching the language but it is the "layman's" job to evolve it. Academics have to learn to catch up to the status-quo of impromptu communication otherwise they are simply removing themselves from society too much. Ivory Towers are bad for academics despite how pretty they are.
EDIT: Fixed a sentence lol
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On July 11 2011 09:57 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10. You make it sound like all Puma did was pay 10 dollars and got a spot in the Grand Finals. As if every opponent in the Open bracket was a walkover.
It's not a walkover, but he doesn't deserve a spot in the finals for one open tournament! He barely invested anything into the league, while others have spent time and money to compete.
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I think the Open Tournament should've been for the players who participated in the group stages only. It seems more logical IMO.
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On July 11 2011 09:15 Wuff wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:14 MCDayC wrote:
Cons.
Awful production. Bad stream quality. Cramped booths. Lindsey on Day 2. Audio pains.
Pros.
Sen. Puma. MC. Some of the great Starcraft 2 I have ever seen played. Seriously. NASL has got more game than the GSL. I would sign that.
I concur.
On July 11 2011 09:15 slicknav wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:14 MCDayC wrote:
Cons.
Awful production. Bad stream quality. Cramped booths. Lindsey on Day 2. Audio pains.
Pros.
Sen. Puma. MC. Some of the great Starcraft 2 I have ever seen played. Seriously. NASL has got more game than the GSL. If the NASL had the same production quality as GSL of MLG...it would would be the greatest SC2 event ever
Seems like the first season of every major SC2 Tournament has been bad: GSL and MLG come immediately to mind. So let's just wait for next season and see how dramatically they improve.
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On July 11 2011 09:52 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:49 vnlegend wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. So play BO's vs Koreans like Clide, Alive, etc or play vs foreigners? The three months vs 1 day is a valid difference but it's not big of a deal to schedule a few hours for SC once a week. Did you realize that the NASL basically cheated someone out of a spot in the top 16? Instead of having a player that played the whole nine weeks getting into the finals, it's a player who had to put in basically nothing to get there.
What, so playing for nine weeks suddenly entitles you to anything? And winning an open bracket against those pro players is definitely not "nothing," it's a far more impressive feat than half the the people who ended up in the finals could accomplish.
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On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10.
So playing 9 best of 3's over 9 weeks is so much more time than 8 best of 3's in the open bracket. Also players get their $250 deposit back while puma doesn't get his $10 back. Puma fully deserves to be at the finals.
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On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10.
All the other players in the Open bracket also put in $10. Why didnt they get in the finals.
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On July 11 2011 09:59 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:57 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:
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You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10. You make it sound like all Puma did was pay 10 dollars and got a spot in the Grand Finals. As if every opponent in the Open bracket was a walkover. It's not a walkover, but he doesn't deserve a spot in the finals for one open tournament! He barely invested anything into the league, while others have spent time and money to compete.
But you do realize that Puma's path to the Finals was the HARDEST of any of the other players?
One series loss and he was done. You can actually say the players in the 5 divisions had it a bit easier.
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On July 11 2011 10:00 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:56 MechKing wrote:On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. they had to spend all that time and money to do that, compared to puma who just goes "oh I put in $10 and if I win I can get a spot in the finals!" He also gets a spot into season 2 of the NASL all for $10. So playing 9 best of 3's over 9 weeks is so much more time than 8 best of 3's in the open bracket. Also players get their $250 deposit back while puma doesn't get his $10 back. Puma fully deserves to be at the finals.
Obviously Painuser deserves this more than Puma does.
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j/k
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On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt.
You underestimate how stacked the open brackets are.
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21105303/brackets
Some of the players that are in the tournament are quite famous such as Nightend, Namchir,Thorzain , TSL.Rain,TSL.Alive, sixjaxmajor, lalush....
Not to mention they are all Bo3 all the way until the end so thats quite alot of games to be played.
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Big ups to NAsL Cant wait for next season. Who will be in the top 50?! More puma and the chance to win $100,000 for first. What the heck is everyone worried about?!
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Also, the open tournament was a great way to equal out the fairness of the entire thing. It's not like the 50 players were not biasedly picked or anything.
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On July 11 2011 09:26 rareh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:25 FliedLice wrote:On July 11 2011 09:24 guluru wrote:On July 11 2011 09:21 EndOfTime88 wrote:On July 11 2011 09:18 tns wrote:![[image loading]](http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5171/puma100dollarbill.png) Doesn't even make sense. How does that not make sense -.- he didn't win 100k? 50k
Shame on me lazy to change it xD
Puma/Gentleman nicknamed into "Korean President Terran"? Wasn't it only "President Terran"?
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On July 11 2011 10:02 BlindKill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 09:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 09:48 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:46 statik wrote:On July 11 2011 09:43 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:37 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event. You mean like Send a video before a deadline? ... maybe you aren't aware of the group stages? Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot. Puma went 8-0 to get his What's your point? dude, are you serious? one is an open bracket tournament that took what, 1 day? where anyone can play? the other one took MONTHS and had only top invited opponents. arent you guys basically arguing about the same point? that koreans like puma came into nasl though the short open tourney and the other players had a long and arduous gaming bracket? the original argument was that it's a hell of a lot more work for the invited players to qualify than for the player to qualify through open bracket (not necessarily harder, just more work), and I agree with that. I think it would make more sense for the open bracket winner to go to group stages with the invites, and I think it would make seeding easier too. So playing one best of 3 once a week is more difficult than going through a open bracket full of Korean pro players and the open bracket requires no losses while the regular season didnt. You underestimate how stacked the open brackets are. http://binarybeast.com/xSC21105303/bracketsSome of the players that are in the tournament are quite famous such as Nightend, Namchir,Thorzain , TSL.Rain,TSL.Alive, sixjaxmajor, lalush.... Not to mention they are all Bo3 all the way until the end so thats quite alot of games to be played.
Did you mean to quote me? I said the open bracket was full of great players ...
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