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tuho1234
90 Posts
On July 11 2011 12:48 Alpino wrote: Did you see the games? Psi Storm/Feedback is a good skill toi have the same way as EMP is. 100x harder to feedback than EMP if you ask me. | ||
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jimjimchoi
Korea (South)45 Posts
On July 11 2011 05:25 ffadicted wrote: Ya, it's pretty clear HuK is the best foreigner, but I'd say Sen is easily second, with naniwa and thorzain probably lingering in the background lol huk is best foreigner how? just because he won dreamhack and homestory? huk winning those two small lans doesnt mean much, look at StACE he won iem but fell outa the gsl look at MMA he won mlg but fell outa the gsl you see what i mean? huk is not best foreigner, look at this idra beats huk and sen beats idra, also sen gets 3rd at a big lan with many Koreans that EARNED the right to be there no invites like dreamhack etc | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4519 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:21 tuho1234 wrote: 100x harder to feedback than EMP if you ask me. It is harder, but that's not why MC lost those games if you ask me.. And I'm Protoss. Emp's fine, no need to discuss it. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3507 Posts
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jimjimchoi
Korea (South)45 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:24 Gescom wrote: Just realized that Sen won 3 ZvZ series' to take third. That's pretty amazing... sen actually won 5 ZvZ to get third. including all the matches he had to play to get to the nasl live finals. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:24 jimjimchoi wrote: lol huk is best foreigner how? just because he won dreamhack and homestory? huk winning those two small lans doesnt mean much, look at StACE he won iem but fell outa the gsl look at MMA he won mlg but fell outa the gsl you see what i mean? huk is not best foreigner, look at this idra beats huk and sen beats idra, also sen gets 3rd at a big lan with many Koreans that EARNED the right to be there no invites like dreamhack etc Just because ? :| You Forget he is still in the Code S , Advanced past his group demolishing the competition....Make no Doubt about it , Dreamhack and homestory are not easy tourneys to win...He is undoubtedly the best foreginer Right NOW | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:24 jimjimchoi wrote: lol huk is best foreigner how? just because he won dreamhack and homestory? huk winning those two small lans doesnt mean much, look at StACE he won iem but fell outa the gsl look at MMA he won mlg but fell outa the gsl you see what i mean? huk is not best foreigner, look at this idra beats huk and sen beats idra, also sen gets 3rd at a big lan with many Koreans that EARNED the right to be there no invites like dreamhack etc Lol what? Dreamhack a small lan? Ummm no... and citing korean players who fall out of code a/s doesn't mean shit when comparing huk to foreigners who just lost to huk. Also huk played well in his code s group. Huk won dreamhack and sen lost to july at dreamhack. Didn't huk beat july then? Huk winning dreamhack and homestory is more impressive than sen getting third in nasl. | ||
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Armada Vega
Canada120 Posts
There were a crap ton of koreans in it, koreans that could have easily destroyed every foreigner, in the main season. Puma in no way in the previous Open Bracket had an easier time then every other player in the main season. I think the Open Bracket was complete in a 24hr period? with no preparation for players in between brackets? But PUMA made it through all of it, and then through everyone in the top 16. Maybe in concept and practice, under general situations, the open bracket is unfair or flawed. But the players who were actually in the Open Bracket with PUMA, that bracket was very hard and in no way was an easier road for PUMA. And wasn't an easier road than the road that everyone in the main-season/playoffs had, at least not this time. | ||
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Mios
United States686 Posts
no way im paying $25 for one bo7. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On July 11 2011 07:42 Zeburial wrote: So what if it Void rays vs Ghosts? who wins? *Mind Explodes* | ||
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jimjimchoi
Korea (South)45 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:29 pyro19 wrote: Just because ? :| You Forget he is still in the Code S , Advanced past his group demolishing the competition....Make no Doubt about it , Dreamhack and homestory are not easy tourneys to win...He is undoubtedly the best foreginer Right NOW lol you really believe huk is the best? where is the proof? sen has beaten huk in a series live on his Justin tv stream. dreamhack and homestory are all invites so people that go there might not deserve it. and winners of those lans can win those small lans, but in gsl fall down or not get far. St ace beat MC in the NASL qualifyers does that mean ace is better then MC? what if that was the finals of a lan? no he wouldn't be. honestly sen is the best foreginer why? because he got top 3. if huk was in nasl you think he can beat mc or puma or sen? | ||
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jimjimchoi
Korea (South)45 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:31 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol what? Dreamhack a small lan? Ummm no... and citing korean players who fall out of code a/s doesn't mean shit when comparing huk to foreigners who just lost to huk. Also huk played well in his code s group. Huk won dreamhack and sen lost to july at dreamhack. Didn't huk beat july then? Huk winning dreamhack and homestory is more impressive than sen getting third in nasl. sen beat july in the NASL. | ||
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jimjimchoi
Korea (South)45 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:31 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol what? Dreamhack a small lan? Ummm no... and citing korean players who fall out of code a/s doesn't mean shit when comparing huk to foreigners who just lost to huk. Also huk played well in his code s group. Huk won dreamhack and sen lost to july at dreamhack. Didn't huk beat july then? Huk winning dreamhack and homestory is more impressive than sen getting third in nasl. MC lost to Huk in homestory so does that mean Huk is better then MC? you win some you lose some. thats why there is no best foreginer but a group of foreginers that are good. huk is probably the best Canadian sc2 player and foreign protoss, sen is the best foreign(hes still asian so idk if he can be considered foreigner) zerg. and terren? who knows they are all over the place. | ||
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Tyrr
United States216 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:37 jimjimchoi wrote: lol you really believe huk is the best? where is the proof? sen has beaten huk in a series live on his Justin tv stream. dreamhack and homestory are all invites so people that go there might not deserve it. and winners of those lans can win those small lans, but in gsl fall down or not get far. St ace beat MC in the NASL qualifyers does that mean ace is better then MC? what if that was the finals of a lan? no he wouldn't be. honestly sen is the best foreginer why? because he got top 3. if huk was in nasl you think he can beat mc or puma or sen? You obviously didn't watch Huk demolish MC, Idra, July, Moon, Naniwa, and everybody else associated with Dreamhack and Homestory Cup. MC got HANDED by Huk. So yes, he can beat MC, Puma, and Sen. I'm willing to bet he wins 2-0 against MC in the Code S round of 16 as well. Sen is EXCELLENT. but Huk has been showing amazing results recently and you're a fool to think he's not the best foreigner | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:24 jimjimchoi wrote: lol huk is best foreigner how? just because he won dreamhack and homestory? huk winning those two small lans doesnt mean much, look at StACE he won iem but fell outa the gsl look at MMA he won mlg but fell outa the gsl you see what i mean? huk is not best foreigner, look at this idra beats huk and sen beats idra, also sen gets 3rd at a big lan with many Koreans that EARNED the right to be there no invites like dreamhack etc As others have said: Dreamhack and HSC3 were NOT "small lans" look at who HuK had to beat, especially for HSC3 and you'll see why people consider him the best foriegner, his run was SUPER tough to get there. Also, MMA is STILL an absolute beast. He STILL has only lost to some of the best players out there and rightfully earned MVP for two GSTLs. HuK and Idra are pretty 50-50 lately, with the last win being HuK's at HSC. | ||
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
That's how rankings work, think about it. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:46 Tyrr wrote: You obviously didn't watch Huk demolish MC, Idra, July, Moon, Naniwa, and everybody else associated with Dreamhack and Homestory Cup. MC got HANDED by Huk. So yes, he can beat MC, Puma, and Sen. I'm willing to beat he wins 2-0 against MC in the Code S round of 16 as well. Sen is EXCELLENT. but Huk has been showing amazing results recently and you're a fool to think he's not the best foreigner No, Huk isn't. Doing something once isn't really that great. Idra was the best player in the world day one of the last MLG by your standards. You drink the kool aid too quickly. Huk only now has a .500 record in the GSL and has a losing record against idra. The point is it's about a body of work and no what you've done the last month or two. | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:24 jimjimchoi wrote: lol huk is best foreigner how? just because he won dreamhack and homestory? huk winning those two small lans doesnt mean much, look at StACE he won iem but fell outa the gsl look at MMA he won mlg but fell outa the gsl you see what i mean? huk is not best foreigner, look at this idra beats huk and sen beats idra, also sen gets 3rd at a big lan with many Koreans that EARNED the right to be there no invites like dreamhack etc I'm not saying I'm 100% sold on HuK being the best foreigner, but the ignorance in this post is overwhelming. 1) Dreamhack is not a small Lan 2) MMA and Ace dropped out of Code S while HuK is doing well in Code S 3) Idra doesn't 'beat' HuK, HuK actually beat Idra last time they met. 4) http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:37 jimjimchoi wrote:honestly sen is the best foreginer why? because he got top 3. if huk was in nasl you think he can beat mc or puma or sen? Getting top 3 at the NASL is not a bigger achievement than getting 1st place at Dreamhack and Homestory Cup. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 11 2011 12:42 tuho1234 wrote: EMP just won every game for Puma, so sad  I hope EMP deal less shield damage against Toss.It's not the shield damage so much as no energy. Without FF or Storm it's GG for gateway armies. But really it's not so easy. You have to build lots of ghosts and drop them perfect on correct units. You mess up you don't have enough rax troops and get rolled over. Also don't short sell PuMa's outstanding drop play strangling MC on resources and keeping him at home. | ||
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