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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7401
The way Messi plays futbol is how Spain plays, which is the point I think he was trying to make with HuK.

He plays like a Korean.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7402
On June 20 2011 02:00 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:59 Obelisco wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:57 kalleralle wrote:
Epic fail for the Swedes all of them out except Naniwa and Sase, both protoss, what a joke.

You forgot SaSe, who actually played really good the games i saw, not many tho

Did he?


know what edit is?
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
loazis
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:01:57
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7403
Can't wait for the play-offs!
There is no spoon.
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:02:24
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7404
On June 20 2011 01:59 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:58 Klamity wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


Did you even read his post? Ignorance is really a shame.


I read all of it, it still doesn't "pretty much make him a korean"

It's stupid bullshit, am i japanese because i lived in Japan for over a year?


If you live in Japan long enough, then use, you do in fact become a citizen. You adapt the culture.

Likewise, you live and train in Korea with Koreans on the Korean server adapting to the Korean metagame, then one could say he is Korean in a Starcraft 2 sense. No one is saying he is physically Korean. No one is saying he represents Korea. Simply, his play is essential Korean.

I don't understand how any of this flusters you. Try to relax.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:02:31
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7405
On June 20 2011 02:00 videogames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:58 Klamity wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


Did you even read his post? Ignorance is really a shame.

Do you also consider Messi Spanish?


I think you mean Catalan Barcelona did not cheer for Spain when it won the WC, I think that is pretty telling of where their sentiments lie. But good point nonetheless.
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7406
Born in the USA, grew up in Canada, practices in Korea. Huk is a multinational product.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:02:47
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7407
HuK is not a korean and SeleCT is not a foreigner...

I guess some people have different definitions but I'll be rooting for IdrA en HuK as foreigners.
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7408
On June 20 2011 01:59 kalleralle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:58 anatem wrote:
Sjow is slowly but surely getting more and more behind the curve, it's sad to see really since he's got some skills and can keep competing at a high level, but his inability or unwillingness to improve his mechanics and his total lack of spark in unorthodox situations will put him in the "could've been" category as time goes on.


Yeah you simply can't play professional starcraft with 80-100 apm at some point it just has to end. I'm really surprised he hasn't become faster with time actually.


Why are people saying he has under 100 apm?
Check any of hes replays, hes like 150-200 apm, just like 99% of foreigners.
Only time when he has low apm (like around 50) is first 5 mins of the game where nothing is happening anyway, and he doesnt like to spam right click on minerals.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4238 Posts
June 19 2011 17:01 GMT
#7409
On June 20 2011 01:54 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:52 andis35 wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:50 Bobble wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:49 andis35 wrote:
if sjow wins and thorzain wins isnt it a 3 way tie?


I heard Sjow and three way tie. That brings back awful memories...


that was awesome :D . they played 4 additional rounds iirc


I stayed up to watch it ^_^ it was glorious!


I remember reading about that tie break but dont remember watching....was it worse than the 3way tie with EffOrt in the OSL a few seasons ago? And if someone with bw memory skills remembers that one...that wasnt the OSL effort won right? That would be amazing since the tie breaks only happened because of a rematch that was sketchy with some not working mouse controversy ^^
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7410
If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


He's a foreigner competing in Korea, man. He's no more Korean than Cristiano Ronaldo was English.

Don't be silly. A Korean lost to a foreigner, and I suspect that's the only reason anyone is pressing that point because it violates the world view of Koreans being completely invincible - even the worst one, as so many have been so loud about calling Moon, one of the best WC3 players ever.

Redefining his citizenship is not going to make him any less of a foreigner :p
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7411
On June 20 2011 01:59 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


In SC2 terms when we say koreans we don't mean where they were born. Select isn't per term considered a korean in sc2 world, and HuK is. HuK has been living in korea training with koreans for many months now and for most of his sc2 career.

HuK is korean in sc2 terms. Select is not.
Select is korean in real world terms. HuK is not.

It's not that hard guys D: It's not their place of birth, it's their place of practice. No one is trying to compare who was born with most 1337 sc2 skills, we're trying to compare practice regime


Pretty much...its not that hard to understand that your comparing scenes not nationalities. If Huk wins this tourney does it say anything about the strength of the Euro or NA scenes? It just says that Korean training regimen is the best in the world, something we already know.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7412
On June 20 2011 02:01 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:00 videogames wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:58 Klamity wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


Did you even read his post? Ignorance is really a shame.

Do you also consider Messi Spanish?


I think you mean Catalan

lolol politics at play
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7413
On June 20 2011 01:59 Krallman wrote:
the foreinger-hope thorzain out, noooo (


Really? Nani is atleast at the same level, if not better, than Thorzain. Stop being a drama queen. Nani is looking beastly. I think he'll be top 4.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:02:33
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7414
if you guys are bored or have nothing to do for now

check out tb's stream for wow, he's doing it really noob friendly ('cause well, he's a noob now since he's quit wow for a while) and he's streaming a top guild raiding for fun

http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuit#/w/1357563856
lalala
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7415
On June 20 2011 02:00 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


Lmao whatever, you can have your own opinion but don't act like what I say is stupid. Huk is a representative of Korea in this tournament, all of his training lately is the result of being part of the Korean Starcraft 2 scene. While he may be a foreigner in the GSL he still brings the Korean playstyle that has influenced him to the foreigner scene. His birthplace is irrelevant to the country he is representing with his play.


why dont you ask huk what country he is representing you idiot
Prime/MarineKing!!! www.twitter.com/DayTripperSC
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7416
On June 20 2011 02:00 kraut wrote:
are u guys serious about the huk is korean stuff?

do u consider select a korean?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7417

LOL. 16 players, and only 3 terrans advanced.


They need to bring in more terrans from Korea to change that statistics.
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7418
are playoffs up next?

any have link to updated brackets and which stream is showing what game?
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
June 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#7419
I think this is when we all cross our fingers and hope the playoff brackets make for some potentially awesome final matchups! I do NOT want DH to look anything like the shambles that is a GSL final :/

That being said, awesome mix of players in the playoff bracket!
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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
June 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#7420
On June 20 2011 02:00 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 01:57 grobo wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:56 Heavenly wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:53 taldarimAltar wrote:
On June 20 2011 01:42 Xpace wrote:
A Korean lost to a non-Korean? Since when is HuK non-Korean? Sure he looks like a white guy and carries a Canadian passport, but in Starcraft 2 context, he's as Korean as it gets - oGs house training, copying MC's Godlike builds, his skills vastly improving because of GSL... I'm pretty sure he now prefers kimchi over bacon.

Lol he's still a foreigner...


If you live with Koreans, train with Koreans, and use the builds of Koreans why would you be considered a foreigner? The difference between Koreans and foreigners is their approach to Starcraft 2, not their race. Huk is pretty much a Korean.


Huk is not korean, period.

Are you fucking serious?


Lmao whatever, you can have your own opinion but don't act like what I say is stupid. Huk is a representative of Korea in this tournament, all of his training lately is the result of being part of the Korean Starcraft 2 scene. While he may be a foreigner in the GSL he still brings the Korean playstyle that has influenced him to the foreigner scene. His birthplace is irrelevant to the country he is representing with his play.


He is American born, lives in Canada (and sees himself as a Canadian) , he represents an American team (Team Liquid) and only lives in Korea for the time being. When you watch the GSL with Jinro & HuK, do you not cheer for them because they are foreigners, or do you think "gah no foreigners to cheer for, bunch of Koreans only" ?
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