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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
June 18 2011 14:48 GMT
#5481
Holy shit @ results. What a shocker!
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
June 18 2011 14:50 GMT
#5482
On June 18 2011 23:31 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:57 zyzq wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:54 pdd wrote:
MMA's two recent twits following lost are rather interesting

SlayerSMMA Mun Seong Won
@
@Myungwoon 너나 나나
43 minutes ago

SlayerSMMA Mun Seong Won
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
44 minutes ago


@myungwoon is Zero, the BW player who lost 3-0 to Flash in the MSL Finals last week. The twit translates on Google to: "You and me both."

He must be quite upset. He seemed to be very composed during the post-game interviews though, but it was quite obvious he was holding back his disappointment.


aww... Zero such a qtpie, still keeps in touch with his Woongjin brothers



MMA was SKT though.

Very nice of Zero to offer comfort.


I know MMA is SKT, I was looking at Zero's tweets to Ganzi and Supernova.
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
June 18 2011 14:51 GMT
#5483
No shock for me cause I always know that Polt is the best
Polt was right about luck
MH_Gunner
Profile Joined May 2011
200 Posts
June 18 2011 14:52 GMT
#5484
On June 18 2011 23:39 Tin_Foil wrote:
Wow, how disappointing...

I'm so glad I went to sleep after the 3d finals now..


You missed Polt's marines that are immune to tanks .
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
June 18 2011 14:53 GMT
#5485
just got back from the teamliquid meet in seoul. just thought i will leave this here.

On June 10 2011 14:53 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
polt is underrated as fuck.

s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
June 18 2011 14:55 GMT
#5486
On June 18 2011 22:51 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:45 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:33 shizna wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:58 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:44 WafflesX3 wrote:
I just woke up, and I can't believe what I'm seeing. I've always supported Polt, but I feel that MMA is the better player when it comes to TvT ever since beating MarineKing. How did Polt win this? :O

G1: Polt went blind Marauders with stim vs MMA's fast helion (well not really blind as polt probably studied MMA's games and expected it, but it was never actually scouted in game). So obvoiusly a straight BO counter and killed MMA

G2: MMA went banshees, then gives away his banshee for free with 0 kills, big mistake. Later, he parked his 3rd orbital infront of his first expansion for some reason. So Polt sniped it during their first encounter, MMA didn't even repair it: 2nd big mistake. Later MMA floats his newly built CC to his 3rd, then scouts Polt coming for an attack, but didn't bother pulling his CC back or sending troops to defend it, so Polt snipes his 3rd CC yet again: 3rd Big mistake. Eventually GG's from falling too far behind Too many mistakes from MMA this game.

G3: Same as game 1. Polt went marauders while MMA went fast blue flame Helions. Except this time MMA sneaked a few helions in and killed all the SCVs while Polt's Marauder push killed all of MMA's SCVs. Then both tried to rebuild except Polt had an expansion up before the exchange, so polt pulled ahead and won. Another mostly BO win for polt

G4: EXACT same as one of the MKP vs MMA game. MMA went fast ghost rush, Polt barely defends it, then just builds a bunker, and flies a Banshee in and killed bunch of MMA's SCVs. MMA didn't learn from MKP's game by getting better anti air at his base. terrible mistake.

All in all, terrible series, so unless you're one of those people that enjoys the "underdog" factor, I wouldn't recommend watching.


why do you say "blind marauders", yet MMA's hellions are just 'fast hellions' ?

lmao, you're a blind fanboy.

Cuz helion openings are standard, and marauders aren't. Polt intentionally went marauders cuz he thinks MMA is going to go Helions (due to studying his old plays). Polt didn't actually know for a fact that MMA is doing it. Therefore it is a blind build that worked. I don't know why you take offense in the word blind. It isn't implying anything negative like cheesy or all-in.

And I don't know why you randomly throw in that fanboy comment. Which part of my post makes it seem like I'm a fanboy? I would of said the exact same thing had the result be switched (but the games stayed the same). Fact of the matter is, we got robbed of a potentially 7 epic TvT games with 4 terrible TvT that I wouldn't even call it TvT as they felt more like PvP.


Please explain how they were terrible TvT
If anything, the scv trade scenario, the insane marine splittings, hidden gold bases etc. all made it enjoyable to watch. All it lacked was the nail biting finishing type ace game


the 4-0 one sided series pretty much sums it up, especially when you look at the smaller tourney final right before that, that went into the 5th game of a bo5 when both players are extemely talented, the sC vs DRG series was really much more enjoyable to watch.
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MH_Gunner
Profile Joined May 2011
200 Posts
June 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#5487
On June 18 2011 23:52 MH_Gunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 23:39 Tin_Foil wrote:
Wow, how disappointing...

I'm so glad I went to sleep after the 3d finals now..


You missed Polt's marines that are immune to tanks , and also the funny commentaries from Tastosis .

Poilon
Profile Joined December 2010
France139 Posts
June 18 2011 14:59 GMT
#5488
So happy for polt & DRG
Des rats des rats
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
June 18 2011 15:04 GMT
#5489
As expected Polt stomped on MMA...go practice in code A more MMA ...:D another liquibet succes
hi_0
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada249 Posts
June 18 2011 15:12 GMT
#5490
Haha I'm glad I voted for polt. I didn't expect 4-0 though, wish I could have seen the games.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
June 18 2011 15:14 GMT
#5491
wow... Polt?!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
June 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#5492
On June 18 2011 22:49 shockaslim wrote:
Now we are him.a have a bunch of people saying that Polt is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he was bad for a long time.

You clearly have never experienced university education.
adalcim
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany166 Posts
June 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#5493
Again a final which disappointed me. Just a quick 4:0 is not what I want to see... We need more epic finals in the GSL.
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
June 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#5494
On June 18 2011 23:10 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:51 Biane wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:45 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:33 shizna wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:58 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:44 WafflesX3 wrote:
I just woke up, and I can't believe what I'm seeing. I've always supported Polt, but I feel that MMA is the better player when it comes to TvT ever since beating MarineKing. How did Polt win this? :O

G1: Polt went blind Marauders with stim vs MMA's fast helion (well not really blind as polt probably studied MMA's games and expected it, but it was never actually scouted in game). So obvoiusly a straight BO counter and killed MMA

G2: MMA went banshees, then gives away his banshee for free with 0 kills, big mistake. Later, he parked his 3rd orbital infront of his first expansion for some reason. So Polt sniped it during their first encounter, MMA didn't even repair it: 2nd big mistake. Later MMA floats his newly built CC to his 3rd, then scouts Polt coming for an attack, but didn't bother pulling his CC back or sending troops to defend it, so Polt snipes his 3rd CC yet again: 3rd Big mistake. Eventually GG's from falling too far behind Too many mistakes from MMA this game.

G3: Same as game 1. Polt went marauders while MMA went fast blue flame Helions. Except this time MMA sneaked a few helions in and killed all the SCVs while Polt's Marauder push killed all of MMA's SCVs. Then both tried to rebuild except Polt had an expansion up before the exchange, so polt pulled ahead and won. Another mostly BO win for polt

G4: EXACT same as one of the MKP vs MMA game. MMA went fast ghost rush, Polt barely defends it, then just builds a bunker, and flies a Banshee in and killed bunch of MMA's SCVs. MMA didn't learn from MKP's game by getting better anti air at his base. terrible mistake.

All in all, terrible series, so unless you're one of those people that enjoys the "underdog" factor, I wouldn't recommend watching.


why do you say "blind marauders", yet MMA's hellions are just 'fast hellions' ?

lmao, you're a blind fanboy.

Cuz helion openings are standard, and marauders aren't. Polt intentionally went marauders cuz he thinks MMA is going to go Helions (due to studying his old plays). Polt didn't actually know for a fact that MMA is doing it. Therefore it is a blind build that worked. I don't know why you take offense in the word blind. It isn't implying anything negative like cheesy or all-in.

And I don't know why you randomly throw in that fanboy comment. Which part of my post makes it seem like I'm a fanboy? I would of said the exact same thing had the result be switched (but the games stayed the same). Fact of the matter is, we got robbed of a potentially 7 epic TvT games with 4 terrible TvT that I wouldn't even call it TvT as they felt more like PvP.


Please explain how they were terrible TvT
If anything, the scv trade scenario, the insane marine splittings, hidden gold bases etc. all made it enjoyable to watch. All it lacked was the nail biting finishing type ace game

Because those things you listed are usually seen in good PvP, TvZ, etc.

The mark of why people say TvT is a good matchup is usually because of the chess-like positional plays, map controls, seige-lines decision making, etc etc. I'm not saying intense-micro and marine splitting is bad. But if I wanted to see intense micro, I would watch PvP, and if i wanna see insane marine splits, I would watch TvZ. Therefore, these games were terrible from a TvT standard as it didn't have anything that makes a good TvT

edit*: Also, close games =/= good games. Would you call both players 6pooling each other every game and ending up with 1 drone + 1 ling each battling out good games? I guess everyone's opinion is different but for me, that definitely isn't something I would be calling good


I cant argue against that but variety do exist.

We do have to keep in mind though, if polt played a standard TvT, we would have no doubt the results would be drastically different. The influence from MKP is definitely in his play and from the previous games in the semi finals, showed the flaws in MMA's play which in the future, all other terran players will be sure to take advantage of. We very well may call those games to be played in the future to MMA's weaknesses, crap, but unfortunately we're definitely going to see more of them unless MMA can overcome it.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#5495
Polt is the most underrated player in the world. He's a top 3 terran in the world in my book now.
The Notorious Winkles
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
June 18 2011 15:26 GMT
#5496
MKP will be so sad if Polt steals his name.

GG Polt
Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
June 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#5497
Damn Polt wrecked MMa...very shocking results.
You will not do incredible things without an incredible dream
RiceMuncher
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia138 Posts
June 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#5498
A sad sad day =[
-BuNnY
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada4 Posts
June 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#5499
i feel like mma just didn't play up to how well he usually plays
must have been the pressure

but he's still in my list of top 10 terrans
mma hwaiting~
Kerrigan is the reason my race is zerg.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 18 2011 15:37 GMT
#5500
Holy shit, wtf! lol

o well i like both, polt may be the first bonjwa
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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